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British Jobs for British Workers: Singapore Jobs?

lifeafter41

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Was just reading an article in Bloomberg, where it referred British Prime Minister, Mr Gordon Brown promised, using this term, British Jobs for British Workers.

Countries in the Euro Zone, have been hit badly in this downturn are striking in UK and France to protest the employment of foreign staff.

Will it happen in Singapore, will we see Singaporeans protesting at MOM, ICA?.

Will Singapore make a similar statement as its British counterpart, Mr Gordon Brown?.
 

ahbengsong

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Was just reading an article in Bloomberg, where it referred British Prime Minister, Mr Gordon Brown promised, using this term, British Jobs for British Workers.

Countries in the Euro Zone, have been hit badly in this downturn are striking in UK and France to protest the employment of foreign staff.

Will it happen in Singapore, will we see Singaporeans protesting at MOM, ICA?.

Will Singapore make a similar statement as its British counterpart, Mr Gordon Brown?.

answer: "Jobs for foreigners, NS for sinkees"
 

singveld

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Was just reading an article in Bloomberg, where it referred British Prime Minister, Mr Gordon Brown promised, using this term, British Jobs for British Workers.

Countries in the Euro Zone, have been hit badly in this downturn are striking in UK and France to protest the employment of foreign staff.

Will it happen in Singapore, will we see Singaporeans protesting at MOM, ICA?.

Will Singapore make a similar statement as its British counterpart, Mr Gordon Brown?.

he only blow hot air
he is in EU
that mean he got nothing to preven other EU state citizen from coming into his country to work
nothing at all
if he make a law to block spain, spain will sue them in eu court and also ban uk citizen from working and living in spain.

then it will become a trade war

it will not happen

just political message meant for local consumption

no power at all.
 

mscitw

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Peasantpore is addicted to cheap foreign talents.

They are cheap, expendable during bad times, do not vote and voice dissent.

Furthermore cheap FTs will depress local peasants' wages and attract more MNCs to set up more high tech sweatshops.
 

makapaaa

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jobsFTns.jpg
 

The_Latest_H

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he only blow hot air
he is in EU
that mean he got nothing to preven other EU state citizen from coming into his country to work
nothing at all
if he make a law to block spain, spain will sue them in eu court and also ban uk citizen from working and living in spain.

then it will become a trade war

it will not happen

just political message meant for local consumption

no power at all.

I agree. It's just a PR exercise. There will be moves that will likely reduce the amount of approvals given out to foreign workers to work in the UK, and if you couple that with the fact more Eastern Europeans are leaving the UK because of retrenchment, then its clear the number of foreigners in the UK will be reduced from its highest peak during the banking/construction boom.

Still, the UK can never push out the entire foreign population- especially those who have already achieved British residency status. So while there will be more jobs in certain sectors for UK-born citizens, all foreigners cannot be expelled from the UK. That would damage their reputation as a trade-friendly nation.

As for here, my opinion is that we do need a quota system, to ensure that while some sectors can fulfill their obligations by casing a wider net for employees, some may have to look internally on the domestic front, and try to hire more locals- with the government giving monetary support if necessary. This ensures that local-born citizens have a better shot in getting jobs, while we protect our trade-friendly status of this country and her future, by ensuring we are being protective, but not being xenophobic.

Because if we cross the line and become xenophobic, this will have long term ripples and damages our reputation as a trade-friendly nation. We depend on world trade for the growth of our economy, and as long as we depend on exports for the majority of our economical growth, we cannot be shown as an xenophobic nation.
 

lifeafter41

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I agree. It's just a PR exercise. There will be moves that will likely reduce the amount of approvals given out to foreign workers to work in the UK, and if you couple that with the fact more Eastern Europeans are leaving the UK because of retrenchment, then its clear the number of foreigners in the UK will be reduced from its highest peak during the banking/construction boom.

Still, the UK can never push out the entire foreign population- especially those who have already achieved British residency status. So while there will be more jobs in certain sectors for UK-born citizens, all foreigners cannot be expelled from the UK. That would damage their reputation as a trade-friendly nation.

As for here, my opinion is that we do need a quota system, to ensure that while some sectors can fulfill their obligations by casing a wider net for employees, some may have to look internally on the domestic front, and try to hire more locals- with the government giving monetary support if necessary. This ensures that local-born citizens have a better shot in getting jobs, while we protect our trade-friendly status of this country and her future, by ensuring we are being protective, but not being xenophobic.

Because if we cross the line and become xenophobic, this will have long term ripples and damages our reputation as a trade-friendly nation. We depend on world trade for the growth of our economy, and as long as we depend on exports for the majority of our economical growth, we cannot be shown as an xenophobic nation.

I recall reading an article where in certain countries, employers need to show proof of not able to fill a position with local talents before being allowed to employers FTs.

In Singapore, it seems to be no hold barred, anyone or anybody (FTs) with a piece of paper can apply.
 

The_Latest_H

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I recall reading an article where in certain countries, employers need to show proof of not able to fill a position with local talents before being allowed to employers FTs.

In Singapore, it seems to be no hold barred, anyone or anybody (FTs) with a piece of paper can apply.

Yeah we need such a system- where certain sectors have to use this in order to ensure FTs are only the last resort, not the first. Now the playing field in almost every sector is somehow against locals, and that's unfair, considering countries like Australia have been able to manage their quota system well enough, and still maintain the balance between locals and migrants in jobs, and in other related issues such as health care coverage.

We need to restore the balance. Its only because other countries have reduced their quota numbers for this year, and possibly for 2010, while we have opened ours, that even in a recession, more foreigners, are coming in Singapore- which doesn't help matters economically at all. At best, the impact economically, is very mixed. I'm not sure it benefits locals especially when the numbers skewer the current unemployment rate of Singapore.
 

Papsmearer

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Was just reading an article in Bloomberg, where it referred British Prime Minister, Mr Gordon Brown promised, using this term, British Jobs for British Workers.

Countries in the Euro Zone, have been hit badly in this downturn are striking in UK and France to protest the employment of foreign staff.

Will it happen in Singapore, will we see Singaporeans protesting at MOM, ICA?.

Will Singapore make a similar statement as its British counterpart, Mr Gordon Brown?.

In Singapore, its same same mah. British Jobs for British Workers, Singapore Jobs also for British Workers. :-)
 

lifeafter41

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Yeah we need such a system- where certain sectors have to use this in order to ensure FTs are only the last resort, not the first. Now the playing field in almost every sector is somehow against locals, and that's unfair, considering countries like Australia have been able to manage their quota system well enough, and still maintain the balance between locals and migrants in jobs, and in other related issues such as health care coverage.

We need to restore the balance. Its only because other countries have reduced their quota numbers for this year, and possibly for 2010, while we have opened ours, that even in a recession, more foreigners, are coming in Singapore- which doesn't help matters economically at all. At best, the impact economically, is very mixed. I'm not sure it benefits locals especially when the numbers skewer the current unemployment rate of Singapore.

Perhaps the publishing of the unemployment figures of Singaporeans only. Those with PINK ICs and SERVE NS only. Not FTs, PRs, EP, or whatever Ps will help to allay the fears of local residents of foreigners taking aways jobs.
 

The_Latest_H

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Perhaps the publishing of the unemployment figures of Singaporeans only. Those with PINK ICs and SERVE NS only. Not FTs, PRs, EP, or whatever Ps will help to allay the fears of local residents of foreigners taking aways jobs.

That's right. When the PAP published the unemployment rates which include foreigners and PR, it shows that they fear the truth. That's why they have been silent about the unemployment rates of local-born. That's sad really.
 
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