Breaking News!Pastor Kong Hee And Pastors Arrested And Charge!

[Conqueror]

Not True

Simple lah, bro.

1. it is god's will

2. It is all part of god's plan

3. it is god's will

4. It is all part of god's plan

5. it is god's will

6. It is all part of god's plan

7. it is god's will

8. It is all part of god's plan

9. it is god's will

10. It is all part of god's plan

Where got so easy one. Sometimes, it is both punishment and the will of God. It was the will of God that one has to go through a certain hardship to see what He's trying to tell him. To obtain wisdom can be trying. You can see it in King Nebuchadnezzar's (famous) hardship in the book of Daniel.

 

[gatehousethetinkertailor]

Re: Not True

Compare and contrast:

"Celebrity priests: Not everyone is pleased about Africa’s new breed of clergyman"

“IT DOESN’T matter how many people come to services,” says Temitope Joshua, pastor of Nigeria’s Synagogue Church of All Nations. “It’s about how many people are being saved.” But it is the sheer size of his flock in Lagos that marks out Mr Joshua, better known as Prophet T B Joshua, who runs one of Africa’s mega-churches; 15,000 people attend his services every Sunday. A lot more watch his channel, Emmanuel TV.

The reverend is not alone. Hundreds of years after the first bible-punching missionaries came to Africa to persuade those who practised local religions to turn to a Christian God, conversion has become more of a home-grown affair. Charismatic African pastors, mimicking American evangelists, have gained fame for their forceful preaching, packing their pews and becoming local stars.

The trend is most marked in Nigeria, which hosts Africa’s largest Christian population, 80m-strong. Nigerian churches such as Faith Tabernacle and Christ’s Embassy are expanding into Ghana, Liberia, South Africa, Zambia and Zimbabwe. Most have publicity machines behind them, with jazzy posters advertising spiritual and other benefits. Many of the popular new pastors claim the gift of prophecy and teach a “gospel of prosperity”, which encourages their disciples to pay a tithe (10% of their income) to the church in return for even greater riches from God.

The pastors’ wealth raises eyebrows. Some have their own planes for jetting between the churches and the offices of their sprawling business conglomerates. In March David Oyedopo, reckoned to be Nigeria’s richest pastor by Forbes, a business magazine that puts his wealth at $150m, added an airline to his empire. Such money and fame bring political clout too. Presidents and parliamentarians pick their church with care, in the hope of a holy endorsement.

Some locals grumble that these men (few of these pastors are female) have strayed from the humility exemplified in Christ. When asked whether such criticism is fair, the Reverend Joshua, who sparks controversy by claiming the gift of prophecy, quotes passages from the Bible about the persecuted being blessed.


http://www.economist.com/node/21558298

 

[greedy and cunning]

Re: Not True

compare and contrast :

Grand Master Sheng-yen Lu is foremost lineage master of Rising Dragon Feng Shui and through His empowerment and blessing we wholeheartedly work to repay the generosity He has shown us by taking us as His disciples. Without the lineage of our Grand Master we would not be able to be speak the truth of Feng Shui.

Grand Master Lu keeps a disciplined schedule throughout the day and has been practising yoga and meditation everyday for over twenty five years. He has already reached the stage in which any yoga He engages in manifests a response. His inner world encompasses the Buddhist Tripitaka as well as the knowledge of the Supreme Consciousness of the Universe. Having achieved Enlightenment, Grand Master Lu is revered by his students as a Living Buddha, Lian-shen. In english, we refer to His Holiness as the Lotus Light Buddha of Freedom and Self Mastery because Grand Master's teachings enable us to overcome and transcend the problems that love, wealth, career, health and family may pose. His teaching is the most complete Dharma encompassing Feng Shui, Meditation, Chi Gung, Healing and Inner Realisation - in short, all that one needs to lead a successful, happy and fulfilled life

don't play play , this guy got tens of thousands of faithful followers all over the world.
it is just unbelievable how the mind work.
once you are in it , without you knowing you are transformed into a mindless slave.

 

[drifter]

where did you get that crazy idea sir? You mean you really believe in reincarnation?

if you can believe a crazy story that a snake can talk ...so why cant you believe god rape mary ?

 

[drifter]

Both mind and heart, faith must follow mind too.
I have been very open minded and done my search. Have you?

have you done any research on a talking snake ?

 

[laksaboy]

have you done any research on a talking snake ?

If the snake is a metaphor for Satan or some shapeshifted intelligent life, it being able to talk is certainly plausible.

What's really incredulous is Balaam's talking donkey. Go read it up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balaam

After Balaam starts punishing the donkey for refusing to move, it is miraculously given the power to speak to Balaam (Numbers 22:28), and it complains about Balaam's treatment. At this point, Balaam is allowed to see the angel, who informs him that the donkey is the only reason the angel did not kill Balaam. Balaam immediately repents, but is told to go on.

 

[drifter]

If the snake is a metaphor for Satan or some shapeshifted intelligent life, it being able to talk is certainly plausible.

What's really incredulous is Balaam's talking donkey. Go read it up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balaam

those magical characters also appear in harry potter book that gong cheeby dont even know he is reading a fairy tales and treat it as a history book whahahaahahaha...what a joke

 

[drifter]

Re: Not True

Where got so easy one. Sometimes, it is both punishment and the will of God. It was the will of God that one has to go through a certain hardship to see what He's trying to tell him. To obtain wisdom can be trying. You can see it in King Nebuchadnezzar's (famous) hardship in the book of Daniel.

so sometimes is the will of god sometimes is punishment from god ? whahahahahaaha...gong cheeby , you really created a excuse for your own cult whahahaahahahaha...so now im fucking you and your god means its god will or god is punishing you and " himself " ....whahahahahahaha gong cheeby you do make us laugh to the max whahahahaahahaha ...

 

[Conqueror]

When One Cannot Think Or Process Anything, Just Use Skepticism For Everything

so sometimes is the will of god sometimes is punishment from god ? whahahahahaaha...gong cheeby , you really created a excuse for your own cult whahahaahahahaha...so now im fucking you and your god means its god will or god is punishing you and " himself " ....whahahahahahaha gong cheeby you do make us laugh to the max whahahahaahahaha ...

When One Cannot Think Or Process Anything, Just Use Skepticism For Everything

 

[drifter]

Re: When One Cannot Think Or Process Anything, Just Use Skepticism For Everything

When One Cannot Think Or Process Anything, Just Use Skepticism For Everything

when one cannot find answer he point his finger to his storybook whahahaahahaha. why are you still here ? no balls to go chat room ? whahahahaha your invisibleman never give you strength to go in ? whahahahaha

 

[king_of_abalone]

If the snake is a metaphor for Satan or some shapeshifted intelligent life, it being able to talk is certainly plausible.

What's really incredulous is Balaam's talking donkey. Go read it up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balaam

Har..? Balaam is from where? Ah neh FT from India? He fucking the donkey at Jerusalem?

 

[Toronto]

Simple lah, bro.

1. it is god's will

2. It is all part of god's plan

3. it is god's will

4. It is all part of god's plan

5. it is god's will

6. It is all part of god's plan

7. it is god's will

8. It is all part of god's plan

9. it is god's will

10. It is all part of god's plan

Quotes and verses from the bible can be mixed and matched to counter any arguments. A lot of CHC members are now trying to silence critics on forums and other blog sites using these quotes that I read across so many times that I have not problem reproducing here:

"judge not lest ye be judged"

"Let him who is without sin cast the first stone."

They are the very people that go all out to judge and condemn non-beliver and demonize other religions. The facts of CHC saga are laid open, why afraid of so judgement and critics? Isnt it very hypocritical??


The most wonderful aspects

 

[Conqueror]

Need Wisdom To Judge

Quotes and verses from the bible can be mixed and matched to counter any arguments. A lot of CHC members are now trying to silence critics on forums and other blog sites using these quotes that I read across so many times that I have not problem reproducing here:

"judge not lest ye be judged"

"Let him who is without sin cast the first stone."

They are the very people that go all out to judge and condemn non-beliver and demonize other religions. The facts of CHC saga are laid open, why afraid of so judgement and critics? Isnt it very hypocritical??


The most wonderful aspects

But, you really need wisdom to judge. Some of these judges don't. We can't stop people from giving this guy 'willingly'. But, we should stop PAP from fleecing us all. That's crux of all the problems.

 

[Conqueror]

Re: When One Cannot Think Or Process Anything, Just Use Skepticism For Everything

when one cannot find answer he point his finger to his storybook whahahaahahaha. why are you still here ? no balls to go chat room ? whahahahaha your invisibleman never give you strength to go in ? whahahahaha

If you don't use science or argue cases with logic, don't step into the forum. Chat room is for sex perverts.

 

[drifter]

Re: When One Cannot Think Or Process Anything, Just Use Skepticism For Everything

If you don't use science or argue cases with logic, don't step into the forum. Chat room is for sex perverts.

gong cheeby , science and logic tell you a snake can talk ? whahahahahahah your god never give you balls to come in chat room is it ? whahahahah

 

[king_of_abalone]

They are the very people that go all out to judge and condemn non-beliver and demonize other religions. The facts of CHC saga are laid open, why afraid of so judgement and critics? Isnt it very hypocritical??

Yes it is. Most followers of Christ are like that. Very hypocritical. They say things like that only when it suits them.

Then again, not sure if it is a Christian thing or a Sinkie thing.

 

[laksaboy]

This book explains a lot on why CHC acts the way it does.
All CHC members/supporters and the investigators, I urge you to read the book. At least read the first few chapters.

I shall quote an excerpt for you all.

Chapter Two
Marshalling The Forces: The Evangelical Movement 1945 to 2005

(h) The rise of Christian Fund Management:
At the same time, a large charity consultancy business has evolved to connect corporate donors with congenial charities through which they can offset tax, gain market advantage, and earn good publicity - the most notable names in this business being Generous Giving (founded by the McLellan Foundation in 2000), Crown Financial Ministries (1985), and Ronald Blue's Excellence in Giving.

The market is huge: the annual value of NGOs is an estimated one trillion dollars - mission agencies alone have $400 billion in liquid assets. "Humanitarian relief", the main cover for evangelization, attracts such funds easily - in 2005, international giving by U.S. foundations amounted to over $3.8 billion, 49% of this going to "global health", a statistic much helped by the involvement of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.

The modern evangelical movement, as a component of the capitalist system, is deeply concerned with raising, managing and spending money - and with theological justifications for doing so.

And over the past 25 years the nexus has tightened. "Marketplace ministries" large and small proliferate, basing much of their activity on the link between getting rich, justifying getting rich, and financing the biblical "Great Commission". "Prosperity teaching" also maintains that the poor are poor because there is not enough Christian charity - expanding Christian charity, amongst other things, would eliminate the need for progressive taxation.

For many evangelicals, the theological justification for Christian fund management resides in the scripture's call to transfer wealth from the Gentiles to the "Chosen People": opening the gates to this transfer is one of the professed functions of the "New Apostolic Reformation."

 

[hurley]

http://www.facebook.com/notes/ronald-wong/the-last-16-months-of-my-life/10150286461957127

Ronald Wong: The last 16 months of my life

 

[drifter]

http://www.facebook.com/notes/ronald-wong/the-last-16-months-of-my-life/10150286461957127

Ronald Wong: The last 16 months of my life

" The reason I did that was because this is where I grew up in, and experienced many good. Everything I learned about being a good Christian, a good man, a good son and husband, I learned it all here – in CHC "


stupid christians , is he a 3year old kid ? he dont know how to be a better person without any religion ? he cant even tell what is right or wrong ? or he needed reward ( ticket to heaven ) to be a good man ?

 

[XiaoJuan]

singaporean bah... school never teach so he dunno how to be a better person. learn the hard way better then neber learn! :p

" The reason I did that was because this is where I grew up in, and experienced many good. Everything I learned about being a good Christian, a good man, a good son and husband, I learned it all here – in CHC "


stupid christians , is he a 3year old kid ? he dont know how to be a better person without any religion ? he cant even tell what is right or wrong ? or he needed reward ( ticket to heaven ) to be a good man ?