Breaking News. 40 new coronavirus cases in Sinkieland

[A Singaporean]

Woe. The virus never fail to amaze. It put our well prepared PAP to shame. Sinkies are fucked.

 

[A Singaporean]

Schools will be next. This is a no mask cuntry. Still gold standard. Ha ha ha.

 

[knowwhatyouwantinlife]

Please sprout facts most of the cases are imported community spread the past few days have been less than 10 on average...should be plateau for the community part unless these imported cases are allowed to go home to grab their belongings before being sent to ncid

 

[SalahParking]

Please sprout facts most of the cases are imported community spread the past few days have been less than 10 on average...should be plateau for the community part unless these imported cases are allowed to go home to grab their belongings before being sent to ncid

Wah, u win liao. Virus also can choose who to infect.hehehe

 

[laksaboy]

Just be thankful it's not a geometric progression.

 

[nayr69sg]

Schools will be next. This is a no mask cuntry. Still gold standard. Ha ha ha.

Forget about masks.

There are not enough masks to give to the public to make it effective. Plus there is no evidence surgical masks work anyway.

 

[nayr69sg]

Just be thankful it's not a geometric progression.

Not yet.

 

[stingray]

Woe. The virus never fail to amaze. It put our well prepared PAP to shame. Sinkies are fucked.

This is not really breaking news; it is stale news. Escalating Covid19 cases especially from FS half dead carriers are now serious. Breaking news is when MOH discloses first death of either a local or a FS mati from Covid19. Bigger breaking news is when the mati one is a pap MP.

 

[SalahParking]

relax pm lee said its not as serious as SARs and you don't need to wear a mask if you are not sick

 

[mojito]

Just be thankful it's not a geometric progression.

If don't test that many, how to geometric progress?

 

[mojito]

This is not really breaking news; it is stale news. Escalating Covid19 cases especially from FS half dead carriers are now serious. Breaking news is when MOH discloses first death of either a local or a FS mati from Covid19. Bigger breaking news is when the mati one is a pap MP.

No dead mp. Go house to house wear glove. Their gloves might dirty, but hands are well protected I assure u.

 

[CPTMiller]

Please sprout facts most of the cases are imported community spread the past few days have been less than 10 on average...should be plateau for the community part unless these imported cases are allowed to go home to grab their belongings before being sent to ncid

Import or export case does not matter much.
As long they came in contact with anyone there is a risk of transfer of infection.
Government can trace but no 100% can guarantee

 

[Leongsam]

Woe. The virus never fail to amaze. It put our well prepared PAP to shame. Sinkies are fucked.

The virus is a minor infection and 40 is a very low number which shows just what a good job the PAP is doing.

 

[nayr69sg]

Sg govt announced the measures to ban events with more than 250 people and ask for 1m spacing in restaurants.

It is a sign things are escalating in Singapore.

Akan Datang.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

I hope the virus spreads to everyone. That way herd immunity will be realised and singkieland will be better off. Because the economic disruptions through lockdown are simply not worth it for the working n middle classes.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/13/herd-immunity-will-the-uks-coronavirus-strategy-work

 

[nayr69sg]

Got email saying Zoo offering 1 for 1 admission with $2 retail voucher!

https://www.wrs.com.sg/en/ticketing...1_for_1&utm_medium=edm&utm_source=s_db&#promo

 

[Leongsam]

Sg govt announced the measures to ban events with more than 250 people and ask for 1m spacing in restaurants.

It is a sign things are escalating in Singapore.

Akan Datang.

It would be a good time for everyone to read about the history of spanish flu :

https://www.history.com/topics/world-war-i/1918-flu-pandemic

This was in the days when medical technology was far less sophisticated but despite the fact the deadly variety of Spanish flu started in the fall of 1918 and by summer the epidemic had burned itself out... that's a little more than six months.

The governments of the time tried all the same arsenal of tricks but it did not make much difference.

So let's assume that this coronavirus is as virulent as the spanish flu was if it follows the same pattern of transmission by the summer/autumn of 2020 it will be done and dusted even if we do nothing!

However if we keep trying to halt its transmission all that will happen is that it will take longer to spread and will hang around disrupting the economy for a much longer period of time.

Let's bite the bullet and get it over and done with. Sometimes short, sharp pain is better than long term suffering. Those who want to lock themselves in their pigeon holes can go ahead. In the meantime there are others out there who just want to get on with their lives.

We always face the possibility of death in our daily lives. Road accidents, heart attack, tree falls on you, electrocuted when charging your phone, tripped over your dog, stabbed by gangster wannabes at Orchard towers, run down by a rogue PMD rider etc etc. The list is endless. We can't just hide in a cave. Life is meant to be lived to the fullest as we only have one and we never know when it will come to an end virus or no virus.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

It would be a good time for everyone to read about the history of spanish flu :

https://www.history.com/topics/world-war-i/1918-flu-pandemic

This was in the days when medical technology was far less sophisticated but despite the fact the deadly variety of Spanish flu started in the fall of 1918 and by summer the epidemic had burned itself out... that's a little more than six months.

The governments of the time tried all the same arsenal of tricks but it did not make much difference.

So let's assume that this coronavirus is as virulent as the spanish flu was if it follows the same pattern of transmission by the summer/autumn of 2020 it will be done and dusted even if we do nothing!

However if we keep trying to halt its spread all that will happen is that it will take longer to spread and will hang around disrupting the economy for a much longer period of time.

Let's bite the bullet and get it over and done with. Sometimes short, sharp pain is better than long term suffering. Those who want to lock themselves in their pigeon holes can go ahead. In the meantime there are others out there who just want to get on with life.

Yes herd immunity is the way to go when it's just a flu and its mortality rate is soo pathetic.

What is herd immunity and could it slow the spread of coronavirus COVID-19 around the world? - ABC News
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Some governments, including the UK and the Netherlands, have discussed pursuing herd immunity to combat coronavirus.(Reuters: Athit Perawongmetha)
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As the coronavirus pandemic continues to worsen, some governments have started discussing how "herd immunity" could be used to stop the virus in its tracks.

The UK's chief science adviser, Sir Patrick Vallance, said on March 13 that one of "the key things" Britain needed to do was "build up some kind of herd immunity so more people are immune to this disease and we reduce the transmission".

Sweden has made tests available only for hospital staff and at-risk groups.

And while Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte has closed schools and restaurants, he says a total lockdown in his country probably won't work.

Instead he says the Netherlands is looking at a "controlled distribution" of COVID-19 "among groups that are least at risk".

But not everyone is happy about this approach, with some scientists in the UK and Australia describing it as a dangerous farce.

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Here's how herd immunity works, and why it's currently causing so much controversy.

Herd immunity can stop an outbreak
Herd immunity means that a large portion of a population becomes infected with a disease, but many recover and are then immune to it.

An outbreak eventually fizzles out because there are fewer viable hosts for the virus to infect.

It's considered one of the main ways to fight an outbreak, along with extreme isolation measures, testing and tracing potential cases, and developing a vaccine.

Historians believe the second wave of the Spanish flu pandemic in mid-1918 was the most devastating because few people became immune to it during the first wave.

A group of nurses wear face masks during the 1919 Spanish Flu outbreak.
There were multiple waves of the Spanish Flu outbreak over several years.(State Library Of Queensland)
Britain's chief science advisor said herd immunity would prevent a similar situation if coronavirus was to disappear but then re-emerge.

Sir Patrick said 60 per cent of Britons — or at least 36 million people — would need to catch COVID-19 for this to work.

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The UK Government was eventually forced to backpedal on these comments after an outcry from scientists.

"Herd immunity is not our goal or policy, it's a scientific concept. Our policy is to protect lives and to beat this virus," Health Secretary Matt Hancock said.

Could herd immunity work for coronavirus?
Scientists have been quick to point out that it's not yet known whether people who survive COVID-19 are then resistant to it.

Japanese authorities said on March 16 that a man who recovered from the disease tested positive for COVID-19 again several weeks later.

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A man who recovered from coronavirus during the Diamond Princess quarantine tested positive again two weeks later, according to Japanese authorities.(Reuters Via Kyodo)
That could have been a testing error.

But Diego Silva, a lecturer in bioethics at the University of Sydney, says we still don't know everything about this virus and the body's response to it.

"Allowing a virus to spread in your country when you don't know whether, or how long it takes for, people to become susceptible a second time to the COVID-19 virus is a risk," he said.

Herd immunity also accepts that some people will die
When discussing herd immunity, the Dutch Prime Minister said vulnerable people would need to be protected.

"This assumes you can actually shield those at risk in the first place, and it's not clear to me that you can," Dr Silva warns.

A woman in a scarf and coat walking through the streets of London
Public health experts say letting the virus infect healthy, strong people puts older, vulnerable people at great risk.(Reuters: Hannah McKay)
Scientists have pointed out that if COVID-19 is allowed to spread, there will be fewer younger people to look after the vulnerable.

"Intentionally allowing the virus to spread requires accepting that people will die in the short term, in part due to hospitals and the health system being overwhelmed," Dr Silva says.

British virologist Professor John Oxford from Queen Mary University of London said letting the virus spread also takes governments into murky ethical waters.

"I feel nerve-wracked about it, I think it's kind of a huge experiment when you're indulging letting the virus go like this, rip through the community. People will die. What will their relatives say?

"The whole thing is a bit of a farce — and a dangerous farce."

The UK has abandoned its more relaxed approach to coronavirus after researchers warned that 250,000 people would die as a result.

The Imperial College London told Prime Minister Boris Johnson in a briefing at Number 10 that trying to achieve herd immunity by allowing the virus to spread was unsafe.

So should herd immunity be part of our coronavirus strategy?
Most scientists agree that countries should be trying multiple approaches to contain coronavirus, including social distancing, border controls, and pursuing a vaccine.

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The UK has shut down mass gatherings after researchers warned that allowing them to continue could kill 250,000.(Reuters: John Clifton)
"With any infectious disease, particularly respiratory ones such as coronaviruses, a primary public health goal is herd immunity," says Dr Silva.

But Dr Silva says a vaccine, which could be 18 months away, is one of the best and safest ways to do that.

"One thing is to introduce a vaccine to build up community resistance with an eye toward herd immunity. The other is to let a gnarly virus happily spread about," he says.

University of Sydney Bioethics Professor Angus Dawson says the herd immunity debate is confusing people, and governments should instead focus on "coordinated action".

"We should instead be introducing much more rigorous social distancing than we have seen so far," he says.

"This pandemic is a serious health threat. The protection of the most vulnerable, now, should be the highest priority, not some future theoretical benefit."

Social distancing to protect vulnerable people helps to flatten the curve of the pandemic, spreading the number of infections over a longer period of time.

Not only does this help ensure the healthcare system doesn't become overwhelmed, but it builds up herd immunity in a controlled way over time.

The UK's slow response to the coronavirus outbreak should be a warning to other nations, according to Professor John Oxford.

He says a wartime effort will now be required to avoid a health disaster in Britain.

"It's like the great COVID-19 war. Your grandson will come along and say, 'what did you do in the great COVID war?' and you say, 'I did social distancing, I cut holidays', and you contributed," he says.

"If 50 million people contribute like that, I think we can wipe the virus out."


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[nayr69sg]

It would be a good time for everyone to read about the history of spanish flu :

https://www.history.com/topics/world-war-i/1918-flu-pandemic

This was in the days when medical technology was far less sophisticated but despite the fact the deadly variety of Spanish flu started in the fall of 1918 and by summer the epidemic had burned itself out... that's a little more than six months.

The governments of the time tried all the same arsenal of tricks but it did not make much difference.

So let's assume that this coronavirus is as virulent as the spanish flu was if it follows the same pattern of transmission by the summer/autumn of 2020 it will be done and dusted even if we do nothing!

However if we keep trying to halt its spread all that will happen is that it will take longer to spread and will hang around disrupting the economy for a much longer period of time.

Let's bite the bullet and get it over and done with. Sometimes short, sharp pain is better than long term suffering. Those who want to lock themselves in their pigeon holes can go ahead. In the meantime there are others out there who just want to get on with life.

If you want to do this you have to make it clear to doctors that they DO NOT treat any patient who is very sick with covid19 and just let them die.

Otherwise it is NOT business as usual for hospitals and doctors. They will be swamped. And by spending all that time and effort treating will also be more likely to get sick and die.

If you have covid19 and are sick send you to a building to suffer and die.

Can sam?

 

[Leongsam]

If you want to do this you have to make it clear to doctors that they DO NOT treat any patient who is very sick with covid19 and just let them die.

Otherwise it is NOT business as usual for hospitals and doctors. They will be swamped. And by spending all that time and effort treating will also be more likely to get sick and die.

If you have covid19 and are sick send you to a building to suffer and die.

Can sam?

When it comes to medicine doctors are always having to play God. It's done all the time. You save who you can and do what you can but death still comes. My neighbor went to hospital and never came out. Went in for hip replacement and caught pneumonia and died. Hip was wasted and since it is "bespoke". I guess it can be melted down and made into a new one.