break GRC, return us single wards!! NOW!!

[leetahbar]

the opp parties should unite once and for all and petition for re-instating all contituencies into SINGLE WARD. GRCs should be scrapped. it's like a fat mother hen sheltering the little chicks, i.e, a prominent influential oldhand mp, usually a brand-name minitoot, cast a form of "protection" to all blur paps newbies mp wannabes.

take for example: tg pagar grc which comprises the biggest combination of constituencies of 7. the mother old cock here being lau lee and 6 little chicks mps tagging behind him. just lau lee alone brooding over this super GRC is enough to create awe and intimidation to any would-be challengers. GE after GE, tg pagar GRC is uncontested and a lame walkover resulted.

HOW CAN THIS BE ALLOWED TO CARRY ON?!!

7 wards gone down the drain without a contest because of lack of opp contenders. this is really preposterous!!

our nation has matured. GRC with the silly "vote in the minority race" mp seems absurd. this is singapore in the 21st century and we are now collectively SINGAPOREANS. lau lee keeps harping and playing on the multi-racial theme seem to be passe, outdated and simply ludicrous!

it's about time all opp parties demand and petition a fairer voting system to return citizens of every constituencies the right to cast their votes.

 

[Sideswipe]

it's about time all opp parties demand and petition a fairer voting system to return citizens of every constituencies the right to cast their votes.

absolutely agree.

but we should demand for MMP too - mixed member proportional representation.

 

[leetahbar]

sometime i feel a fairer representation would be this:

take the result of the last GE. paps vs opp (collectively). 66.6%:33.3%. it's paps winning 2/3; opp winning 1/3 which means 1/3 were against the paps rule and should be represented in parleement.

the opposing voters' voices are totally muffled.

 

[commoner]

with all the social engineering by PAPs since the 60s, it is all but a failure because if it has been successful, what's the purpose of GRC?

HDB ethnic distribution, etc etc,,,,,,, all plans by LKY in the early days have deemed futile in the face of GRC,,,,

What meritocracy... with now more than 80% of PAP MPs riding on the tailcoats of the greater mortal into the parliament, with nothing to show except in meeting the people's session, and "bold decisive parroting what the masters require of them",,,,

PAP simply does not have faith in the minorities thats all, and those minorities will forever cower in the skirts of PAPs MCP, and the biggest bigot of all,,, LKY

So PAP ethnic minorities,,,, tell your puppet master that you don't need their protection to get into parliament through GRC,,,, but then again,,, you folks went in by GRCs because you guys are not good enough to fly solo

 

[leetahbar]

lau lee seems trapped in time playing the multi-racial issue. if we are chinese, malays, indians or eurasians - all being the 5 main races here, we are now SINGAPOREANS! many have served NS....and isn't NS for singapore?

many singaporeans have already moved on. maybe it's about time lau lee should retire. if not, there is actually a way to compel him to retire - PERMANENTLY! read this:

insider65 4:52 am
To: ALL (2 of 8)

7498.2 in reply to 7498.1

We can be cordial with respect here to engage in meaningful conversations. This is not Stomp or some immature forum we hope.

Mr Lee Kuan Yew is PAP. He can swing votes anywhere he goes. Even the hardest detractors have a sweet spot for him. We know of many hardcore Worker's Party supporters from the Anson days who have reverence for the man. Its a numbers game.

And you have rightly pointed out that Tanjong Pagar GRC could prove to be the Achilles heel for the PAP. Would you believe it that MacRitchie Reservoir is part of this GRC? Incredulous but no one's complaining.I don't think a single person has come to an MPS and voiced this out.We are not sure with the possible new changes to the boundaries though. We don't read the Gazette but the Parliament Hansard we do.Ever wondered why the budget debates were taken of the CNA website?

Tanjong Pagar GRC been a walkover since 1991.It is a fortress built on myth. Its boundaries and constituencies have been cut and sliced up on 4 occasions. Again demographics come into play. A 30% win for the opposition is possible for this 150,000 GRC. Its an unknown entity.

Mr Lee Kuan Yew has not been tested since 1988 when a little known Independent GT Mylvaganam got 18% of votes. If this unknown chap can get 18% we didn't see why the Opposition parties did not contest every election since then. I was there at the rallies in Tanjong Pagar. It was electrifying.

In 2006,the Worker's Party sent a 'suicide squad' to get a mandate for the Prime Minister. Why not send another one to keep the Minister Mentor pre-occupied. All the MM has to do is show up,wave and endorse our candidates at Aljunied GRC. Such is the enigma. My advice of the day. Keep him busy at his own ward.

You see. It's not the PAP's fault that it is good. It's the opposition parties and its supporters who are not strategic and building inroads when the GRCs were first formed in 1988.The leaders of the opposition lacked foresight and were led by individuals with egos who never looked at succession.

The opposition parties have to work now. Collectively it is plausible for one GRC to fall. It depends on how much the opposition wants it and how hard its supporters are willing to work for it. The supporters should be going out there and helping their respective parties canvassing for votes and support.The PAP can afford to hang on to it's brand for the next 5 elections at least or through two downturns or one severe recession cycles.

Have a long term plan to wrest a GRC within 3 elections and you are heading in the right step. A good showing in this is very important. This Tanjong Pagar GRC contest will be unexpected. The PAP will never expect this. But they need it to weed out the weaker and complacent leaders.

opp parties should combine their strength and fight against him in this super GRC. even if his spirit is willing, his flesh is weak...maybe he could just go meet and spar with the late jbj if this challenge against tg pagar GRC were to be taken up

 

[Sideswipe]

Tanjong Pagar GRC if contested would be the symbolism of the GE. since everyone think that LHL is a puppet. attacking TP GRC would be like going straight for the emperor capital, bypassing all cities and towns.

In old days, going straight for the capital mean that the emperor would have to remain in the capital to defend his land. To run away / disappear would be sending a wrong message to the peasants that the capital is in danger. Secondly, the generals and lieutenants will rush back from all over the country to defend the capital if needed, leaving the rest of the country unprotected.

can you imagine LKY winning 59% of votes while his peers won by 65% or LKY and LHL polled 59% of votes but every GRC was won by 65% and higher. LKY would be humilated. What if LKY got 59% and LHL got 75%. who knew peoples in PAP might get ideas and persuade LHL to force his old man retirement seeing that that LKY has lost his mandate by getting the lowest winning vote.

But in GRC ( you can easily blame the defeat or low winning margin on the other 5 districts not yours )

There are a lot of answers to be found by contesting Tanjong Pagar GRC.
The opposition have nothing to lose by sending a team there.

 

[leetahbar]

the catchword here is: THE SPIRIT IS WILLING, THE FLESH IS WEAK.

lau lee being an advanced old man may still have the fiery fighting spirit but does he possess that youthful flesh to bring him to the next level?

it could be his last and final battle. with him out of the pic, maybe real democracy could progress from there on.

 

[leetahbar]

the absence of lau lee from the political arena would prove and put to rest whether the entire legacy of the LEEgime is actually based on this old man alone and not the meritocracy of the pappies.

by then, there would be one major excuse lesser for opp parties to shield themselves for their failure especially the spoilt sport loser chee soon juan and his sdppies.

 

[wizard]

<<it's about time all opp parties demand and petition a fairer voting system to return citizens of every constituencies the right to cast their votes.>>


While you people are demanding for a single constituencies. They are thinking if a 8 MPs GRC is possible... ... If they want it they can do it...

So what can we peasants do...

Vote for opposition and convince 2 more that you can influence to do so at every opportunity...

Every drop make am ocean..

Let the million of small drops turn the PAP tide.

The 66%, I really hope that they get retrench and replace by FT...

 

[leetahbar]

before they can MAKE it, we must BREAK it cos once MADE, it would be difficult to BREAK.

 

[PigsAndPeanuts]

The pigs will use whatever peanuts needed to stay in power to suck more peanuts from the non pigs.

Fark you, we wont break up GRC, we will enlarge GRC

 

[locky2ky]

the opp parties should unite once and for all and petition for re-instating all contituencies into SINGLE WARD. GRCs should be scrapped. it's like a fat mother hen sheltering the little chicks, i.e, a prominent influential oldhand mp, usually a brand-name minitoot, cast a form of "protection" to all blur paps newbies mp wannabes.

take for example: tg pagar grc which comprises the biggest combination of constituencies of 7. the mother old cock here being lau lee and 6 little chicks mps tagging behind him. just lau lee alone brooding over this super GRC is enough to create awe and intimidation to any would-be challengers. GE after GE, tg pagar GRC is uncontested and a lame walkover resulted.

HOW CAN THIS BE ALLOWED TO CARRY ON?!!

7 wards gone down the drain without a contest because of lack of opp contenders. this is really preposterous!!

our nation has matured. GRC with the silly "vote in the minority race" mp seems absurd. this is singapore in the 21st century and we are now collectively SINGAPOREANS. lau lee keeps harping and playing on the multi-racial theme seem to be passe, outdated and simply ludicrous!

it's about time all opp parties demand and petition a fairer voting system to return citizens of every constituencies the right to cast their votes.

you can demand and petition for all you like, you think the pap can be bothered?