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boss leong fave herd immunity cuntry sweden gave up. impose lockdowns! haaaa

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Sweden Imposes Restrictions as Covid-19 Pandemic Worsens

By Aidan McLaughlinDec 7th, 2020, 1:52 pm

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Stockholm, Sweden. Jonas Gratzer/Getty Images.

The controversial Swedish model for dealing with Covid-19, which relied on voluntary measures instead of mandatory restrictions to fight the pandemic, has been abandoned, according to a new report from the Wall Street Journal.

The new strategy comes as Sweden’s death toll surpassed 7,000 last week, a steep number compared to its Nordic neighbors (Denmark, Finland and Norway have recorded 878, 415 and 354 deaths respectively). The current infection rate in Sweden (346 per 100,000) is more than double that of Germany, Britain and Spain.

“Authorities chose a strategy totally different to the rest of Europe, and because of it the country has suffered a lot in the first wave,” Stockholm physician Piotr Nowak told the Journal. “We have no idea how they failed to predict the second wave.”

Sweden had previously implemented lockdown measures in November amid a surge in cases and deaths, indicating that the country was moving away from a previous laissez-faire strategy that earned praise from lockdown skeptics and proponents of so-called herd immunity.

Now the country is embracing many of the restrictions long implemented by its neighbors. Last month, gatherings of more than eight people were banned. On Monday, high schools closed and the sale of alcohol was banned in bars, restaurants and clubs after 10 p.m.
 
This must be very embarrassing for Sam.

I am not embarrassed but I have to say I am very frustrated with the the media's approach to what is a pretty harmless virus. There is already sufficient data to show that the fatality rate for the under 70s is only half that of influenza.

All that is needed it to keep the elderly safe and the rest of any country should simply go about their lives without undue worry.

The sensationalist media reports evoke an emotional response instead of a scientific response.

All the data for Europe is available at https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/#z-scores-by-country

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While the media conjures up horror stories the scientific response has to be based up data and not an emotional reaction to images of coffins in the street.

The Covid virus will not be eliminated with a vaccine. There have been vaccines for flu for half a century but hundreds of thousands of people still die from flu every year.

Lockdowns were never about eliminating Covid. It was about flattening the curve so that ICUs were not overloaded.

Sweden's ICU capacity is doing fine. https://www.covid19insweden.com/en/healthcare.html and the number of deaths are normal for this time of the year. We all have to die and when you're in your 80s and 90s it is pretty much expected.

We don't lock down because of the flu so why lock down for Covid?
 
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Leongsam

If this is just the ordinary flu ... why the big rush to come up with vaccines?

The fact that there is no cure to the common cold is practically an idiom known to all and sundry.

The fact that most people don't bother with common flu vaccines is almost a medical cliche.

Why then the mad scramble to cure what you claim is just another strain of flu?
 
Sweden Imposes Restrictions as Covid-19 Pandemic Worsens

By Aidan McLaughlinDec 7th, 2020, 1:52 pm

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Stockholm, Sweden. Jonas Gratzer/Getty Images.

The controversial Swedish model for dealing with Covid-19, which relied on voluntary measures instead of mandatory restrictions to fight the pandemic, has been abandoned, according to a new report from the Wall Street Journal.

The new strategy comes as Sweden’s death toll surpassed 7,000 last week, a steep number compared to its Nordic neighbors (Denmark, Finland and Norway have recorded 878, 415 and 354 deaths respectively). The current infection rate in Sweden (346 per 100,000) is more than double that of Germany, Britain and Spain.

“Authorities chose a strategy totally different to the rest of Europe, and because of it the country has suffered a lot in the first wave,” Stockholm physician Piotr Nowak told the Journal. “We have no idea how they failed to predict the second wave.”

Sweden had previously implemented lockdown measures in November amid a surge in cases and deaths, indicating that the country was moving away from a previous laissez-faire strategy that earned praise from lockdown skeptics and proponents of so-called herd immunity.

Now the country is embracing many of the restrictions long implemented by its neighbors. Last month, gatherings of more than eight people were banned. On Monday, high schools closed and the sale of alcohol was banned in bars, restaurants and clubs after 10 p.m.


better dont make him angry, wait he shut down the forum :D
 
Leongsam

If this is just the ordinary flu ... why the big rush to come up with vaccines?

The fact that there is no cure to the common cold is practically an idiom known to all and sundry.

The fact that most people don't bother with common flu vaccines is almost a medical cliche.

Why then the mad scramble to cure what you claim is just another strain of flu?

Because there is big money involved and those that spread panic during these times are the ones benefiting the most.
 
Not many people seem to understand where I am coming from.

I'm not saying that Covid does not kill. All I'm saying is that we have to put things in perspective relative to overall mortality rates.
 
Keeping the oldies safe is the tough ask. I see so many ah peks without masks wandering around my neighbourhood collecting cardboards as exercise.
 
Keeping the oldies safe is the tough ask. I see so many ah peks without masks wandering around my neighbourhood collecting cardboards as exercise.

If they catch it they may die. No different from flu.
 
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