Auntie Yellen tell Tiongkok in the face...U have overcapacity problem, kym?

[syed putra]

ccp is like the evil pretender alien race in sci fi movies. bait with a big market of ccb then steal tech and copy to takeover planet earth after decimating greedy sohais who think they can huat by selling to tiongs. best is to leave ccp in the poverty-stricken maoist era.

If you look at the high speed trains, not all components are made in China. They use European and maybe japanese parts too.
Same with the commercial planes they made. The ARJ 21 almost similar with McDonnell Douglas md-80 as it was assembled in China before merging with Boeing.
Same as C 919 almost similar to airbus a A 320 which has a jv assembly plant in Shanghai.
That is the price to pay if you want to sell Planes in huge numbers in China.
Having said that, the C919 is still. Heavier than A320 which makes it less fuel efficient.

 

[eatshitndie]

If you look at the high speed trains, not all components are made in China. They use European and maybe japanese parts too.
Same with the commercial planes they made. The ARJ 21 almost similar with McDonnell Douglas md-80 as it was assembled in China before merging with Boeing.
Same as C 919 almost similar to airbus a A 320 which has a jv assembly plant in Shanghai.

there are some components that ccp can never replicate well as not everything can be reverse engineered.

 

[Eisenhut]

China is a humongous market for US companies too. Cutting off trade with China means huge loss of revenue to US companies. Like Tesla, Apple, GE, Boeing.

So ask USA to diam diam

 

[knowwhatyouwantinlife]

Hahaha. China CCP don't want to rescue their own consumption to drive the economy but export their cheap product overseas like cars,solar panel and cheap chips so that it will actually export their way out of misery. Built infrastructure out of downturn.

Knn these CCP has the best answer to their economy woo but choose to export and push themselves into extreme corner.


Knn these XJP is really following the footsteps of mao Zedong. All these 小粉红 has now become 红卫兵。

Obviously if there is something u have that people will pay for, u sell? Its papconomics whats wrong with having more money ?

 

[Eisenhut]

there are some components that ccp can never replicate well as not everything can be reverse engineered.

If its science, engineering, eventually smart people can figure out. Unless you talkin about some stoopid american accent nobody can replicate

 

[ftan42]

why comment on the the supplier for over capacity and under price at the end of of the last day of the visit before going to leave

 

[k1976]

why "threaten" the supplier for over capacity and under price at the end of of the last day of the visit before going to leave

Because time to "bankrupt" the supplier for free lunch....very common in my industry

 

[eatshitndie]

If its science, engineering, eventually smart people can figure out. Unless you talkin about some stoopid american accent nobody can replicate

aiyah, ccp has been boasting tiongcock is far ahead in ai, but when push cums to shove generative ai in the form of llm has caught tiongs by surprise. now it’s at least 6.9 years ahead of what ccp has, and tiongs are scrambling trying to catch up. see all these fob tiong engineers in sillycon valley now trying to get jobs in openai, nvidia, and super micro. steal and copy is their forte.

 

[A Singaporean]

Typical Angmorika. Cannot fix their own problems but go around the world to tell others what to do.

 

[Willamshakespear]

That the CCP communists are embracing FREE MARKET to some extend, is a testimonial that the ideology of communism had failed.

Being FREE MARKET, it is NO USE for the WEST to complain about China, the biggest market with low labor & manufacturing costs, being a competitor, & attempt to use trade sanctions, etc to curtail a competitor. Even if China becomes a democracy one day, it will HAVE TO continue what it is doing, because it has 1.4 BILLION mouths to feed, unlike the West whom have only millions....

1 Trillion earned revenues by the CCP govt in a year to support social expenditures for 1.4 Billion citizens = 1,000,000,000,000 / 1,400,000,000 = $714 per person
1 Trillion earned revenues by the US govt in a year to support social expenditures for 300 million citizens = $3,300 per person per yr.

It was presumed that UNIVERSAL WTO COPYRIGHTS policies would prevent 'copy & paste' competitors. Sadly, such will only work up to a point, as just be being slightly different in manufacturing, a product is NOT considered infringing on copyrights.... And China is NOT ashamed to copy & paste any chance it gets.

Furthermore, China has no qualms or care about tech research or evolution. It WILL ATTEMPT TO CORNER the market every chance it gets, to survive, by selling its products cheaply thru MASS production on economies of scale, of low or poor quality, badly researched products but mass high revenues earned by those whom cannot afford quality high end products from the West & Democracies.


Thus, in order to compete in the FREE market place, Western tech firms will have to STRATEGIZE, the way APPPLE sold its products successfully:-

1. Hire the best consumer researchers, hardware & software engineers that money can buy.

2. Develop a product that is INNOVATIVE, NEEDED & 3 steps ahead of any competitor in the market.

3. Manufacture the product with only 1 step tech innovation ahead of market, with small manufacturing plants, agile, funded & ready to switch product & factory retooling within 1 yr, because the strategy is to mass market the product at a high price that will have a lead time before competitors copy & paste the tech innovation, & when the copied product is sold, within 6mths of reverse engineering knowledge, they will be left with only 6mths market share, while the original product developer had already shut down its production line & is on ANOTHER product line that is ON another step of tech innovation.

Using the above strategy, the INNOVATIVE West & Democracies need not fear China. It is NOT an innovative nation because ANY grass that attempts to rise above others, will be cut down, by their superiors even at a small sweat shop. It is their culture, unlike Democracies where ideas & concepts are freely challenged, discussed & solutions found to progress & evolve.

At the end of the day, it may even assist in developing China's aspiring engineers & workers proletariat, to be innovative & upgrade their skills thru learning from others, to progress & evolve...

 

[k1976]

 

[k1976]

That the CCP communists are embracing FREE MARKET to some extend, is a testimonial that the ideology of communism had failed.

Being FREE MARKET, it is NO USE for the WEST to complain about China, the biggest market with low labor & manufacturing costs, being a competitor, & attempt to use trade sanctions, etc to curtail a competitor. Even if China becomes a democracy one day, it will HAVE TO continue what it is doing, because it has 1.4 BILLION mouths to feed, unlike the West whom have only millions....

1 Trillion earned revenues by the CCP govt in a year to support social expenditures for 1.4 Billion citizens = 1,000,000,000,000 / 1,400,000,000 = $714 per person
1 Trillion earned revenues by the US govt in a year to support social expenditures for 300 million citizens = $3,300 per person per yr.

It was presumed that UNIVERSAL WTO COPYRIGHTS policies would prevent 'copy & paste' competitors. Sadly, such will only work up to a point, as just be being slightly different in manufacturing, a product is NOT considered infringing on copyrights.... And China is NOT ashamed to copy & paste any chance it gets.

Furthermore, China has no qualms or care about tech research or evolution. It WILL ATTEMPT TO CORNER the market every chance it gets, to survive, by selling its products cheaply thru MASS production on economies of scale, of low or poor quality, badly researched products but mass high revenues earned by those whom cannot afford quality high end products from the West & Democracies.


Thus, in order to compete in the FREE market place, Western tech firms will have to STRATEGIZE, the way APPPLE sold its products successfully:-

1. Hire the best consumer researchers, hardware & software engineers that money can buy.

2. Develop a product that is INNOVATIVE, NEEDED & 3 steps ahead of any competitor in the market.

3. Manufacture the product with only 1 step tech innovation ahead of market, with small manufacturing plants, agile, funded & ready to switch product & factory retooling within 1 yr, because the strategy is to mass market the product at a high price that will have a lead time before competitors copy & paste the tech innovation, & when the copied product is sold, within 6mths of reverse engineering knowledge, they will be left with only 6mths market share, while the original product developer had already shut down its production line & is on ANOTHER product line that is only another step of tech innovation.

Using the above strategy, the INNOVATIVE West & Democracies need not fear China. It is NOT an innovative nation because ANY grass that attempts to rise above others, will be cut down, by their superiors even at a small sweat shop. It is their culture, unlike Democracies where ideas & concepts are freely challenged, discussed & solutions found to progress & evolve.

At the end of the day, it may even assist in developing China's aspiring engineers & workers proletariat, to be innovative & upgrade their skills thru learning from others, to progress & evolve...

Pls leemember bulk Tiongkok population are trained to copy-&-paste....very minimum innovation skill required.

Very few Chinese has good innovation skills and think out of box when they encounter engineering issues

 

[k1976]

Tiongkok still have a lot sirpokers de woh

 

[k1976]

Moi agree USD are toilet paper, gold is pet rock.

 

[Eisenhut]

Pls leemember bulk Tiongkok population are trained to copy-&-paste....very minimum innovation skill required.

Very few Chinese has good innovation skills and think out of box when they encounter engineering issues

Hey don't say hor. Chinese invent fireworks, noodles, football ..which west use to make guns, pasta and soccer

 

[k1976]

Hey don't say hor. Chinese invent fireworks, noodles, football ..which west use to make guns, pasta and soccer

Tiagong, long ago, an Italian AMDK stole secret tech from Cina to make pizza de woh...and Italian make alot $$$$$ for last few hundred years from it

 

[Willamshakespear]

There can be NO DOUBT on Chinese contribution to Humanity. It is the only nation on Earth with RECORDED 5,000yrs of Humankind history - good & bad, thru various dynasties as each mortal emperor sought to elevate lives but sadly, power corrupts & absolute power corrupts absolutely, proven thru the records.

The last golden age of Han China was in the 15th century, thru the sacrifices & almost impossible hard work by the enlightened emperor - the Ming. In the end, the adage that power corrupts is proven thru, & China was ruled by the self serving exclusive Manchus, & WORSE - by the devil Mao who presumed himself as a god on Earth thru the Cultural revolution that saw the END of Chinese innovation....

The insignificant nobody me can still see the innovative works of past Chinese workers, most evident - being an Asian, in Malacca let alone in Beijing.

Cabinets made of exquisite red wood intricate carvings & laquer that lasted when the Chinese arrived to assist the 1st monarch of Malaysia in the 15th century till today...There is SO MUCH in China's evolution & progress since recorded history, but sadly, the devil Mao ended it all, along with their fervent communist supporters whom still pray to Mao & his horrific ideologies as a god on Earth even today...

We are ALL Humans first before ideologies separates us. NO mortal is a god regardless of race, language or religion. We are ALL flawed & NOT perfect. Thus may Humanity NOT be fooled & pray to mortals or listen to their advices which will only lead to Humanity's extinction WITHOUT any thoughts, free discussions, debates to find solutions to progress & evolve....

 

[worcer]

now china product no longer cheap...

U wan export also ppl may not wan if got choice...

 

[Eisenhut]

now china product no longer cheap...

U wan export also ppl may not wan if got choice...

Its cheap still but all amdk add tariffs. BYD car selling 10-15k in china but come europe become 40k

 

[mahjongking]

let me summarise....the lazy fucks telling the hardworking clowns not to work so hard.....right?