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Apple Q4 results. Another blowup quarter!

singveld

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iphone really change the history of mobile phone.

apple making tons of money from it

too bad their ceo is old, it is time for another company to surpass it.
 

johnny333

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But this shows the importance of Steve Jobs as a visionary leader. I'm worried for Apple once he is gone, he can't live forever.

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Eh... you want portability or computing power? Depends on what you want to do with it lah. I got a Macbook pro, the unibody is very nice, not like some flexi, cheapo plastic dellshit. Makes it feel very solid like it could last forever.


Fate is kind of unfair, people like LKY is still around in his 80's & probably will survive until he's into his 90's, causing problems to Spore & Sporeans.

While people like SJ are having health problems . Even if he survives, there are concerns as to how many years he has left.

Especially in Steve Jobs case, it is well known that he who puts in long hours & that is not good for ones health. However SJ has accomplish alot, more than most people & will be remembered :smile: Other than Apple, he founded NEXT Computers & Pixar.

I like laptops because they use less power and I've always bought Apple because of the quality. I find that Apple product are better value because they last many years. I do own 2 custom built PC's because I need multiple monitors. When you have charts & doing technical analysis, having multi-monitors is a must.
 

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Other than Apple, he founded NEXT Computers & Pixar.

I like laptops because they use less power and I've always bought Apple because of the quality. I find that Apple product are better value because they last many years. I do own 2 custom built PC's because I need multiple monitors. When you have charts & doing technical analysis, having multi-monitors is a must.

Pixar founded by George Lucas lah, later sold to Steve jobs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixar

Pixar started in 1979 as the Graphics Group, a part of the Computer Division of Lucasfilm before it was bought by Apple co-founder Steve Jobs in 1986.

Get the Macbook Pro then, it is decently equipped. I still don't understand why some people still says Mac stuff are expensive. They only compared the price point of its product, but never compared what they are getting for that price point. Before buying my first MAC lappy, I actually did a price comparison between Sony,ThinkPads,(Before they become Lenovos), HP. For their high-end range, starting price for them are cheaper, but after you added additional stuff in them to make it of equivalent specs to the Macbook pro things start getting interesting. The price difference turns out to be around $100. I got the Macbook pro and decided the $100 is price well spend for OSX. Win7 that is releasing today has "features" that are on OSX years ago. It is truly the Software of the future compared to winDOZE!
 

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Check this news out, even their store uses high tech quality stuff. Not just the legendary glass staircases but the windows panes as well

http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/apple-has-smashed-windows-20091022-haej.html

The immense cost is most likely because the four-inch thick glass panels are the largest in the world and are manufactured in a "specially built autoclave in Germany", Kell & Rigby said.

An autoclave is a high temperature, pressurised vessel used to laminate glass.
 

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Ash007;331481 Get the Macbook Pro then said:
The Macbook Pro is the only line I'm seriously considering because of the firewire port. Firewire is much better than USB.

I currently boot off from an external firewire HDD & I expect to do so in the future as HDD sizes increase. I've replace the internal HDD a few times but its a bother to open any laptop:smile:
 
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The Macbook Pro is the only line I'm seriously considering because oth the firewire port. Firewire is much better than USB.

I currently boot off from an external firewire HDD & I expect to do so in the future as HDD sizes increase. I've replace the internal HDD a few times but its a bother to open any laptop:smile:

Apple as usual, is slowly killing off Firewire. I think they will be moving to USB 3.0 once its ready. 4GBit/s not bad.
 

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Apple as usual, is slowly killing off Firewire. I think they will be moving to USB 3.0 once its ready. 4GBit/s not bad.

USB 3.0:confused:

Naw :smile: You are underestimating Apple :smile:

More likely Light Peak

http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/26/exclusive-apple-dictated-light-peak-creation-to-intel-could-be/

Exclusive: Apple dictated Light Peak creation to Intel, could begin migration from other standards as early as 2010

by Joshua Topolsky posted Sep 26th 2009 at 5:02PM
Remember how Intel showed off its new, advanced optical standard -- Light Peak -- this past week on a Hackintosh? Well it turns out there's more to that story than you probably know, and it all leads back to some revealing facts about the connection... literally and figuratively. Engadget has learned -- thanks to an extremely reliable source -- that not only is Apple complicit in the development of Light Peak, but the company actually brought the concept to Intel and asked them to create it. More to the point, the new standard will play a hugely important role in upcoming products from Cupertino.

According to documents we've seen and conversations we've had, Apple had reached out to Intel as early as 2007 with plans for an interoperable standard which could handle massive amounts of data and "replace the multitudinous connector types with a single connector (FireWire, USB, Display interface)." From what we've learned, the initial conversations (and apparent disagreements) were had directly between Steve Jobs and Paul Otellini. If you were wondering about that Apple-blue motherboard we saw at IDF or the aforementioned Hackintosh demo, this should explain everything. Cupertino apparently had specific demands for the standard, including the desire for a single port solution, and an insistence that optical was the only logical choice for such a connector type. Based on the documents we had a look at, the short-term plans seem to involve a one-size-fits-all solution (somehow allowing for multiple connections but avoiding "double dongles") which would enable users to connect a variety of devices into a single Light Peak port, while slightly longer-term plans will mean Light Peak obviates the need for almost every type of connector you use today. Translation: Apple products in the near future could come equipped with only a Light Peak port (or ports) to handle your networking, display driving, and general connectivity.

What happens next, however, is where the story really gets interesting. Based on what we've learned, Apple will introduce the new standard for its systems around Fall 2010 in a line of Macs destined for back-to-school shoppers -- a follow-up to the "Spotlight turns to notebooks" event, perhaps. Following the initial launch, there are plans to roll out a low-power variation in 2011, which could lead to more widespread adoption in handhelds and cellphones. The plans from October 2007 show a roadmap that includes Light Peak being introduced to the iPhone / iPod platform to serve as a gateway for multimedia and networking outputs. While the timing doesn't line up, a low-powered Light Peak sounds like the kind of technology that would be perfect for a device with a need for broad connectivity but limited real estate for ports... like a tablet.


Apparently, there are also plans for a new, low-power Atom chip due next year meant to compete with current CPUs driving mobile devices like the iPhone, netbooks, and set-top boxes. The indication we've been given is that that product (coupled with the Light Peak standard) could provide the basis for some "big" MID news in 2010... but not from Apple. As we saw at the announcement, Sony is also a first-tier partner (though not nearly in the connected way Apple is), and it looks likely the company could find use for that pairing (especially with its entry into the netbook market this year). We can't see Apple utilizing an Atom chip in anything, especially when it's busy cranking away with P.A. Semiconductor and its rumored projects.

In the end, we can't say we know or understand Apple's complete plans for the standard, but what is notable is that the company is pushing for an all-on-one connectivity solution, and pushing hard. That means Cupertino is at least prepared to abandon the standards we now know for a singular solution, and potentially just skip over forthcoming offerings like USB 3.0 (or at least downplay their use). It's not an uncommon move for Apple, but in the past those choices have had major repercussions -- and this pairing is extremely reminiscent of the USB / iMac story (Intel also created that standard, which Apple then popularized). We're going to keep our ears to the ground on this news, but for now, it's an interesting peek behind the curtain, and a possible glimpse into the future of connectivity.
 

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Wow, thanks for the info. Looks like this LightPeak could be a major one port for all devices solution. It could also be a unified internal I/O structure for all other standards. USB/Display/Sata, very interesting. :smile:
 

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Wow, thanks for the info. Looks like this LightPeak could be a major one port for all devices solution. It could also be a unified internal I/O structure for all other standards. USB/Display/Sata, very interesting. :smile:

Trivia: Apple was responsible for development of firewire

While companies like Intel is usually satisfied with setting standards, microsoft copying everyone else, Apple's trying to push the boundaries of technology.

Did you ever hear the joke about Apple being Microsoft's R&D :smile:
If it wasn't for Apple many technologies would be boring. They have now moved to smartphones, ipods,..app store,..

There's no other consumer tech company like Apple out there capable of integrating all the different technologies together i.e. convergence. Thats why I'm confident of APPL stocks going higher :rolleyes:
 

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Trivia: Apple was responsible for development of firewire

While companies like Intel is usually satisfied with setting standards, microsoft copying everyone else, Apple's trying to push the boundaries of technology.

Did you ever hear the joke about Apple being Microsoft's R&D :smile:
If it wasn't for Apple many technologies would be boring. They have now moved to smartphones, ipods,..app store,..

There's no other consumer tech company like Apple out there capable of integrating all the different technologies together i.e. convergence. Thats why I'm confident of APPL stocks going higher :rolleyes:

Wahahah totally agree on that. Compare the R&D cost of Apple and M$ and its even more amazing.

http://www.macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/18900/

"Microsoft outspends Apple by every measure. In raw dollars, Microsoft outspent Apple $7.121 billion to $782 million in 2007 -- a ratio of more that 9 to 1. As a percentage of revenue, Microsoft outspends Apple by about 4 to 1, 13.5 percent to 3.41 percent," Zeiler reports. "Contrary to what Apple implies in its ads, Microsoft literally spends billions on the development of products like Vista and Office."

$7billion and they still came up with shits like vista!!?? WTF? May if Apple has $7billion to spend on R&D we would have the space teleporter by now. :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:
 

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Wahahah totally agree on that. Compare the R&D cost of Apple and M$ and its even more amazing.

http://www.macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/18900/


$7billion and they still came up with shits like vista!!?? WTF? May if Apple has $7billion to spend on R&D we would have the space teleporter by now. :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:


Working for Apple is not easy

There is alot of pressure to perform or out you go but you do get decent pay.

Anyone remeber Avi Tevanian who followed Steve Jobs from Next? He was put in charge of OS development. He left after he made his $$$.

I remember seeing an ex-Apple executive now working for Microsoft. While he was at Apple he was in charge of the Asia Pacific region. Probably paid more at Microsoft for working less :smile:
 
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