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Apple Q4 results. Another blowup quarter!

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Apple Earnings, Revenue Crush Forecasts; Shares Jump
Published: Monday, 19 Oct 2009 | 6:33 PM ET

By: CNBC.com

Apple shares leaped to an all-time high in late trading Monday as the company reported a profit and sales that rose from last year and blew past analysts' forecasts.

Apple's sales of the iPhone and Mac hit quarterly records. Sales of Apple's Mac computers jumped 17 percent from a year earlier to 3.05 million in the September quarter, above analysts' average forecast of roughly 2.8 million.

Apple sold 7.4 million iPhones, up from 6.9 million a year ago, and just shy of expectations of 7.5 million units. Some analysts had thought the company was having a tough time making enough iPhones to meet demand.

"These are huge numbers tonight. Apple is probably the best growth story in tech, maybe one of the best growth stocks in the market. I bet this stock can go to $250 in six to nine months," said Jane Snorek, analyst at First American Funds. "Usually Christmas and back-to-school are correlated and Apple usually has a gigantic Christmas quarter. This makes me think Apple will have a great Christmas."

The maker of the iPhone and iPod earned $1.82 a share in its fiscal fourth quarter, up from $1.26 a share in the same period last year.

Analysts polled by Thomson Reuters had expected Apple to earn $1.42 a share on a topline of $9.21 billion.

Shares of Apple, which closed Monday at $189.86 [AAPL 189.86 1.81 (+0.96%) ], jumped more than 7 percent to exceed $200 and hit an all-time high in extended trading. Get after-hours quotes for Apple here.

"This isn't just a one-quarter phenomenon, there's something bigger going on. There's a paradigm shift from a cell phone, a computer in your pocket. Apple's going to run away with that and ultimately, the numbers are going to be inching up as we go forward into 2010," Gene Munster, senior research analyst at Piper Jaffray, told CNBC.


Apple forecast earnings for the current quarter of $1.70 to $1.78 a share on revenue of $11.3 billion to $11.6 billion.

Apple unveiled a faster iPhone in June and cut the price of the previous generation of the phone to $99. That boosted iPhone sales from July through September to 7.4 million devices, half a million more than last year.

"These are phenomenal results—and use that word. You know, it proves that even in a challenging economy people are willing to pay for what they perceive to be high quality product and a good value product," said Cross Research Analyst Shannon Cross. "It's fantastic earnings for this economy, actually, it's great number for any economy. It just shows the strength of Apple. It reaffirms that Apple is the leading consumer electronics company."

Apple posted a gross margin of 36.6 percent, up from 34.7 percent a year ago. Wall Street had been expecting a margin of 35.5 percent.

Chief Financial Officer Peter Oppenheimer said Apple also enjoyed stronger margins from higher-than-anticipated sales of its "Snow Leopard'' operating system for Mac computers.

"While we knew they were gaining share in those categories—PCs and phones—it's still surprising to see this degree of outperformance,'' said Daniel Ernst, an analyst with Hudson Square Research. "But that's just part of the Apple story: they're gaining share with premium-priced products.''

Apple's outlook is typically conservative, though its revenue forecast this quarter was not far off from Wall Street averages. Apple forecast current-quarter earnings of $1.70 to $1.78 a share on revenue of $11.3 billion to $11.6 billion, versus the Street's $1.91 a share on revenue of $11.4 billion.
 

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Apple Earnings Are Simply Stunning
Published: Monday, 19 Oct 2009 | 5:07 PM ET
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By: Jim Goldman
CNBC Silicon Valley Bureau Chief

Apple needed a big report, and it posted it. Huge. The company reported $1.82 versus the $1.42 expected, on $9.87 billion in revenue.

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One word: Wow.

And guidance was equally impressive, even for a sandbagger like Apple. The EPS range of $1.70 to $1.78 might have been below the Street's $1.91, but it was nearly as low as what some analysts were whispering.

And that's because the revenue range was *gasp, in line with the Street's $11.4 billion, offering $11.3 billion to $11.6 billion.

For Apple [AAPL 189.86 1.81 (+0.96%) ] to even offer ballpark guidance like that borders on monumental.

Meantime, individual units were stellar. The 3.05 million Macs sold and 7.4 million iPhones are the most for each category in any quarter, and Apple is actually entering its seasonally strongest quarter now. And the iPod number was certainly no slouch, with Apple selling 10.2 million of them, which was much better than the 9.9 million expected.

Apple's gross margin came in at 36.6 percent. The Street was just shy of 36 percent.

You don't want to gush too much about a company, but with shares up 8 percent on the news, to a new, all-time high in an economy like this one, it's kind of difficult not to marvel. All of sudden, those $250 targets seem reasonable. Kind of like the way those $700 targets seemed reasonable as far as Google [GOOG 552.09 2.24 (+0.41%) ] is concerned.


There will always be naysayers. But the proof is in the balance sheet. These numbers are simply stunning. Period.
 

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Don't get engross with the numbers, there are many ways to make a earnings report seem Amazingly Greater than it actually is. .:cool:
 

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Don't get engross with the numbers, there are many ways to make a earnings report seem Amazingly Greater than it actually is. .:cool:


Apple normally understates its forecasts to prevent high expectations. Something called sandbagging. So they must be confident of achieving future sales goals :smile:

With so many eyes watching its highly unlikely that a company like Apple would play around with the figures.
 

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Apple normally understates its forecasts to prevent high expectations. ...
ya, man! ... much betta than sum fellas who oways raise expectations ...

swiss std ...
golden period ...
world crass, world's bestest, world lumpar 1 gahmen ...
simply upturn ze downturn, can oredi ...
...
 

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Just announced, Apple is upgrading the iMacs

Saw the new models on CNBC. I'm tempted to get the 27" iMac :smile:



Apple unveils new iMacs with 21.5 and 27-inch displays
Apple on Tuesday unveiled an all new iMac line dual- and quad-core iMacs featuring LED-backlit 21.5 and 27-inch widescreen displays in a new edge-to-edge glass design and seamless all aluminum enclosure.

The new iMac line, starting at $1,199, is the fastest ever with Intel Core 2 Duo processors starting at 3.06 GHz, and Core i5 and i7 quad-core processors for up to twice the performance. Every new iMac ships with a wireless keyboard and the all new wireless Magic Mouse, the world's first mouse with Multi-Touch technology pioneered by Apple on the iPhone, iPod touch and Mac notebook trackpad.

"The iMac is widely praised as the best desktop computer in the world and today we are making it even better," said Philip Schiller, Apple's senior vice president of Worldwide Product Marketing. "With brilliant LED displays and the revolutionary Magic Mouse, the new iMac delivers an amazing desktop experience that we think customers will love."

The new iMac features stunning LED-backlit displays with a 16:9 aspect ratio, ideal for watching high definition movies and TV shows from iTunes, or editing and watching your own videos or photos using iLife. The new 21.5-inch iMac features a high resolution 1920-by-1080 pixel display. The 27-inch iMac features a beautiful 2560-by-1440 pixel display that offers 60 percent more pixels than the previous 24-inch model. Both 21.5 and 27-inch displays use IPS technology to deliver consistent color across an ultra wide 178 degree viewing angle.

The iMac comes standard with a wireless keyboard and the new Magic Mouse featuring Apple's revolutionary Multi-Touch technology. Instead of needing mechanical buttons, scroll wheels or scroll balls, the entire top of the Magic Mouse is a seamless Multi-Touch surface. Using intuitive gestures, a user can easily scroll through long documents, pan across large images or swipe to move forward or backward through a collection of web pages or photos. The Magic Mouse can be configured as either a single button or two button mouse, according to the user's preference. The wireless keyboard and Magic Mouse work seamlessly with the iMac's built-in Bluetooth capabilities to provide a clean, cable-free desk top.



The iMac features improved graphics across the line with NVIDIA GeForce 9400M integrated graphics or ATI Radeon HD 4670 discrete graphics in the 21.5-inch model, and ATI Radeon HD 4670 discrete graphics or ATI Radeon HD 4850 discrete graphics in the 27-inch model. The new iMac line now also features 4GB of 1066 MHz DDR3 memory and capacity up to 16GB across four SO-DIMM slots. Every iMac features a built-in iSight video camera, mic and stereo speakers integrated into the thin aluminum and glass design. iMac includes built-in AirPort Extreme 802.11n Wi-Fi networking, Bluetooth 2.1+EDR, Gigabit Ethernet, a total of four USB 2.0 ports, one FireWire 800 port and a new built-in SD card slot.



Pricing & Availability

The new 3.06 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo iMac and Mac mini lines are now shipping and available through the Apple Store (www.apple.com), Apple's retail stores and Apple Authorized Resellers. The Intel Core i5 and i7 quad-core iMacs are available for order and will begin shipping this November. Mac mini with Mac OS X Snow Leopard Server is available from the Apple Store and Apple's retail stores.

The new 21.5-inch 3.06 GHz iMac, for a suggested retail price of $1,199 (US), includes:

21.5-inch 1920 x 1080 LED-backlit display;
3.06 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor with 3MB shared L2 cache;
4GB 1066 MHz DDR3 SDRAM expandable to 16GB;
NVIDIA GeForce 9400M integrated graphics;
500GB Serial ATA hard drive running at 7200 rpm;
a slot-load 8x SuperDrive with double-layer support (DVD+ / -R DL DVD+ / -RW/CD-RW);
Mini DisplayPort for video output (adapters sold separately);
built-in AirPort Extreme 802.11n wireless networking and Bluetooth 2.1+EDR;
built-in iSight video camera;
Gigabit Ethernet port;
four USB 2.0 ports;
one FireWire 800 port;
SD card slot;
built-in stereo speakers and microphone; and
Wireless Apple Keyboard, Magic Mouse.

The new 21.5-inch 3.06 GHz iMac, for a suggested retail price of $1,499 (US), includes:

21.5-inch 1920 x 1080 LED-backlit display;
3.06 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor with 3MB shared L2 cache;
4GB 1066 MHz DDR3 SDRAM expandable to 16GB;
ATI Radeon HD 4670 discrete graphics; with 256MB GDDR3;
1TB Serial ATA hard drive running at 7200 rpm;
a slot-load 8x SuperDrive with double-layer support (DVD+ / -R DL/DVD+ / -RW/CD-RW);
Mini DisplayPort for video output (adapters sold separately);
built-in AirPort Extreme 802.11n wireless networking and Bluetooth 2.1+EDR;
built-in iSight video camera;
Gigabit Ethernet port;
four USB 2.0 ports;
one FireWire 800 port;
SD card slot;
built-in stereo speakers and microphone; and
Wireless Apple Keyboard, Magic Mouse.

The new 27-inch 3.06 GHz iMac, for a suggested retail price of $1,699 (US), includes:

27-inch 2560 x 1440 LED-backlit display;
3.06 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor with 3MB shared L2 cache;
4GB 1066 MHz DDR3 SDRAM expandable to 16GB;
ATI Radeon HD 4670 discrete graphics; with 256MB GDDR3;
1TB Serial ATA hard drive running at 7200 rpm;
a slot-load 8x SuperDrive with double-layer support (DVD+ / -R DL/DVD+ / -RW/CD-RW);
Mini DisplayPort for video input and output (adapters sold separately);
built-in AirPort Extreme 802.11n wireless networking and Bluetooth 2.1+EDR;
built-in iSight video camera;
Gigabit Ethernet port;
four USB 2.0 ports;
one FireWire 800 port;
SD card slot;
built-in stereo speakers and microphone; and
Wireless Apple Keyboard, Magic Mouse.

The new 27-inch 2.66 GHz Core i5 iMac, for a suggested retail price of $1,999 (US), includes:

27-inch 2560 x 1440 LED-backlit display;
2.66 GHz Intel Core i5 quad-core processor with 8MB shared L3 cache;
4GB 1066 MHz DDR3 SDRAM expandable to 16GB;
ATI Radeon HD 4850 discrete graphics; with 512MB GDDR3;
1TB Serial ATA hard drive running at 7200 rpm;
a slot-load 8x SuperDrive with double-layer support (DVD+ / -R DL/DVD+ / -RW/CD-RW);
Mini DisplayPort for video input and output (adapters sold separately);
built-in AirPort Extreme 802.11n wireless networking and Bluetooth 2.1+EDR;
built-in iSight video camera;
Gigabit Ethernet port;
four USB 2.0 ports;
one FireWire 800 port;
SD card slot;
built-in stereo speakers and microphone; and
Wireless Apple Keyboard, Magic Mouse.

Build-to-order options for the 27-inch Core i5 quad-core iMac include a 2.8 GHz Intel Core i7 quad-core processor.

Back in September, sources first told AppleInsider that Apple was ready and waiting with a redesigned iMac line with a new look.
 

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Someone here still says Apple sucks wor, lol :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

Apple's new iMac is uses the new I7 processor & LED screen. Technically It's cutting edge.

There's no other company offering a system where you can run 2+ OS's: Window, Leopard, Linux,....

If you had bought the share less than 10 months ago the share was about US$80 & now it's about US$200 :eek:
 

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ya, man! ... much betta than sum fellas who oways raise expectations ...

swiss std ...
golden period ...
world crass, world's bestest, world lumpar 1 gahmen ...
simply upturn ze downturn, can oredi ...
...

Dumb Sporeans actually believe the propaganda. :rolleyes:

I've long since pulled my money out of Spore & have it invested in Malaysia & the USA. I do own Apple stocks which I bought when it was only US$15 :biggrin:
 

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Apple normally understates its forecasts to prevent high expectations. Something called sandbagging. So they must be confident of achieving future sales goals :smile:

With so many eyes watching its highly unlikely that a company like Apple would play around with the figures.

Actually sandbagging is just one part of the trick. The other part is when they take items like monitors, hard disk, mice, speakers, what-have-you's from the MAC platform, that are actually peripheral items chalked up to sales of the Mac computers SOLD. They take the average of that, and now US computer market share numbers are up and they seem to have outpace the international industry growth rate. Does this count as 'playing with the numbers' or 'creative accounting'? No one really knows. :cool:
 

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The other part is when they take items like monitors, hard disk, mice, speakers, what-have-you's from the MAC platform, that are actually peripheral items chalked up to sales of the Mac computers SOLD. ....


Apple's results have a breakdown on OS, iPod, iPhone, iTunes, Mac, laptops, Apple owned stores performace,... . So even if what you say is true & that they have inflated mice & monitor sales into computer sales how to inflate all the other products :confused:

Apple does not sell many monitors because the majority of Apple products have monitors built-in. Same goes for after sales keyboards & mice, at least for their popular laptops.

The supply chain support Apples positive results. Intel's results show the same trend that computer chips sales are increasing. Apples subcontractors are also doing well.

Many analysts do actual surveys, they visit the stores in the US & watch customer traffic at the stores to estimate Apples sales. If there is any hanky panky Apple would be caught by now.

Apple is always underestimating its forecast because they don't want the market to have expectations that are too high. Its going to be difficult for Apple to keep on exceeding expectations.
 

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Apple's new iMac is uses the new I7 processor & LED screen. Technically It's cutting edge.

There's no other company offering a system where you can run 2+ OS's: Window, Leopard, Linux,....

If you had bought the share less than 10 months ago the share was about US$80 & now it's about US$200 :eek:

Its I5 quad core lah, anyway, check out the announcement on the multi-touch mouse.
http://www.apple.com/magicmouse/
and the new Mac mini with OSX server 1TB storage!
http://www.apple.com/macmini/server/

Imagine one of these babies attached to a big screen plasma. :wink: Running NFS/Bittorrent/HD tv recording with a tv tuner and acting as a 802.11n router. Anyone tried setting up a Mac mini as a Home entertainment unit? Could share the experiences?
 

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Many analysts do actual surveys, they visit the stores in the US & watch customer traffic at the stores to estimate Apples sales. If there is any hanky panky Apple would be caught by now.

This must have been the exact same thing investors of the Lehmans, AIGs, Madoffs, Freddie Mac/Fannie May, Enron, WorldCom, Tyco and Global Crossing...etc... were pondering before and after their meltdown. :o
 

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Its I5 quad core lah, anyway, check out the

The 27" Imac uses a I7 processor while the 21.5 iMac is using an I5.

You can even use these iMacs as monitors bypassing the computer functionality:smile:

As far as I know the 27" imac is the largest IPS/LED panel currently available :eek:
 

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This must have been the exact same thing investors of the Lehmans, AIGs, Madoffs, Freddie Mac/Fannie May, Enron, WorldCom, Tyco and Global Crossing...etc... were pondering before and after their meltdown. :o

I've never owned any of the above shares.

I've owned Apple shares since it was only $10-$15 per share. Owned many of their products iPods, computers, laptops,...

I would never spend $$$ on junk & would never invest in a company I didn't believe in. Apple has billions in cash on hand, financially very secure.

Have even met Tim Cook :smile: Apple's got good people. Can't say the same thing about the PAP :biggrin:

There will always be oppurtunists like LKY, Ho Ching around but Apple has Steve Jobs. That guy is already a millionaire many times over so he is not out to milk the company. He founded Apple, its his baby & that's the difference :rolleyes:
 

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The 27" Imac uses a I7 processor while the 21.5 iMac is using an I5.

You can even use these iMacs as monitors bypassing the computer functionality:smile:

As far as I know the 27" imac is the largest IPS/LED panel currently available :eek:

Sorry my mistake, should have checked the tech spec at apple site first. :smile:

Go apple! I have been a big convert since the first ipod nano. Never went back to winDOZE since. Yes, they do make cool and nice products. Even 4 year old mac G5s are still running fine now if you can your hands on one of them.
 

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AAPL is a casino stock like AIG and Las Vegas Sands...

Monthly traded turnover is 38.2% of its market cap.

* AIG: 806%
* Las Vegas Sands: 172%
* Citigroup: 69%
* Apple: 38.2%
* GE: 24%
* JPMorgan: 18%

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/aig-casino-hot-potato-darling-806-monthly-turnover-ratio

I think AAPL's innovation cycle is reaching a peak, new products like magic mouse cannot bolster revenue like iphones ... furthermore Jobs is in ailing health...

Charts show stock price diverging negatively from volume and RSI, indicating a top here.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_TwUS3GyHKsQ/StzfpjTqvII/AAAAAAAACOA/ro6OyikAvl8/s1600-h/Applemonth.png
 

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Even 4 year old mac G5s are still running fine now if you can your hands on one of them.


I'm still using my 8 year old iBook, that's what I'm using to surf the internet. Have 2 newer PCs using AMD & Intel but not as secure as 10.3. I have a G4 tower somewhere but an iBook is more handy.

On my PCs, although I'm using firefox I still have problems with some sites hijacking my opening page even though I have anti-virus SW installed:(

I'll be replacing my iBook with another Apple product. Was looking at a Macbook Pro but with the new iMacs the decision has gotten harder :smile:

Will wait to see what the rumoured tablet is all about before I decide what to buy.
 

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AAPL is a casino stock like AIG and Las Vegas Sands...

..

I think AAPL's innovation cycle is reaching a peak, new products like magic mouse cannot bolster revenue like iphones ... furthermore Jobs is in ailing health...

Charts show stock price diverging negatively from volume and RSI, indicating a top here.


When I bought the first iPod I didn't think it would catch on as it was expensive & only 5 GB, costing $600+.

When Apple introduced the 1st iMac I wasn't impressed as it was a closed system & not very powerful.

I was of course wrong & both products went from strength to strength, saving Apple :eek:

I've learned that it's more profitable to trust Steve Job :smile: I've made good money buying Apple shares.:biggrin:


Alot of naysayers out there have been predicting the doom of Apple for years. With this recession there are few shares that are doing as well as Apple. It's shares are now higher than it was pre-recession :eek:

The recent results show that Apple has alot more potential to grow: Iphones in China, upcoming Mac tablet, the App store,...

Chart reading is useful in forex but is it really useful in stocks like Apple :confused:

Alot of innovation is going on at Apple in technology & marketing: they are now selling applications, music,... It is rumoured that Apple will be selling ebooks,.. Anyone who knows the direction of stock prices will be a rich person :rolleyes: Even Ho Ching can't do that :smile:
 

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I know what you mean. Like what the Simpson episode said. "Trust steve, he knows what we want!" But this shows the importance of Steve Jobs as a visionary leader. I'm worried for Apple once he is gone, he can't live forever. The recent liver transplant, if revealed fully, would have send shock waves through its stock. That is the main reason why it was so hushed up by Apple. Eventually, I think it shows, even with Steve on sick leave, Apple could continue with Tim cook and people. Mac announcements, IDF, Macworld are slowly being replaced by other people, unlike the old days where Steve Jobs was the one man, reality distortion field show. I still miss seeing Steve on stage in the old days when he first came back, that was some impressive speeches he would give.

Eh... you want portability or computing power? Depends on what you want to do with it lah. I got a Macbook pro, the unibody is very nice, not like some flexi, cheapo plastic dellshit. Makes it feel very solid like it could last forever.

When I bought the first iPod I didn't think it would catch on as it was expensive & only 5 GB, costing $600+.

When Apple introduced the 1st iMac I wasn't impressed as it was a closed system & not very powerful.

I was of course wrong & both products went from strength to strength, saving Apple :eek:

I've learned that it's more profitable to trust Steve Job :smile: I've made good money buying Apple shares.:biggrin:


Alot of naysayers out there have been predicting the doom of Apple for years. With this recession there are few shares that are doing as well as Apple. It's shares are now higher than it was pre-recession :eek:

The recent results show that Apple has alot more potential to grow: Iphones in China, upcoming Mac tablet, the App store,...

Chart reading is useful in forex but is it really useful in stocks like Apple :confused:

Alot of innovation is going on at Apple in technology & marketing: they are now selling applications, music,... It is rumoured that Apple will be selling ebooks,.. Anyone who knows the direction of stock prices will be a rich person :rolleyes: Even Ho Ching can't do that :smile:
 
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