• IP addresses are NOT logged in this forum so there's no point asking. Please note that this forum is full of homophobes, racists, lunatics, schizophrenics & absolute nut jobs with a smattering of geniuses, Chinese chauvinists, Moderate Muslims and last but not least a couple of "know-it-alls" constantly sprouting their dubious wisdom. If you believe that content generated by unsavory characters might cause you offense PLEASE LEAVE NOW! Sammyboy Admin and Staff are not responsible for your hurt feelings should you choose to read any of the content here.

    The OTHER forum is HERE so please stop asking.

Ang Moh kana screwed by local Ah Neh

cooleo

Alfrescian
Loyal
The End Of The CrunchPad

Michael Arrington
Nov 30, 2009

It was so close I could taste it. Two weeks ago we were ready to publicly launch the CrunchPad. The device was stable enough for a demo. It went hours without crashing. We could even let people play with the device themselves – the user interface was intuitive enough that people “got it” without any instructions. And the look of pure joy on the handful of outsiders who had used it made the nearly 1.5 year effort completely worth it.

Our plan was to debut the CrunchPad on stage at the Real-Time Crunchup event on November 20, a little over a week ago. We even hoped to have devices hacked together with Google Chrome OS and Windows 7 to show people that you could hack this thing to run just about anything you want. We’d put 1,000 of the devices on pre-sale and take orders immediately. Larger scale production would begin early in 2010.

And then the entire project self destructed over nothing more than greed, jealousy and miscommunication.

On November 17, our deadline date for greenlighting the debut three days later, the CEO of our partner on the project, Chandra Rathakrishnan, sent me an email with the subject “no good news.” Yuck, I thought. Another delay, probably with the screen that had been giving us so much trouble – capacitive touch at 12 inches isn’t trivial. And sure enough, the email started off with “no good news to update. updated hardware is still on its way , so that’s a timing issue. friday will be a challenge now.”

But the email went on. Bizarrely, we were being notified that we were no longer involved with the project. Our project. Chandra said that based on pressure from his shareholders he had decided to move forward and sell the device directly through Fusion Garage, without our involvement.

Err, what? This is the equivalent of Foxconn, who build the iPhone, notifying Apple a couple of days before launch that they’d be moving ahead and selling the iPhone directly without any involvement from Apple.

Chandra also forwarded an internal email from one of his shareholders. My favorite part of the email: “We still acknowledge that Arrington and TechCrunch bring some value to your business endeavor…If he agrees to our terms, we would have Arrington assume the role of visionary/evangelist/marketing head and Fusion Garage would acquire the rights to use the Crunchpad brand and name. Personally, I don’t think the name is all that important but you seem to be somewhat attached to the name.”

And with that, the entire project self destructed.

Neither we nor Fusion Garage own the intellectual property of the CrunchPad outright. Fusion Garage has a team of 13 or so employees, currently working here in Silicon Valley out of a home they rented and in our office. Their team has mixed with our CrunchPad team, which is led by Brian Kindle, the former Vice President Hardware Engineering and Manufacturing at Vudu and an early hardware engineer at TiVo. Development expenses have been shared, and our team has spent time in Singapore and Taiwan, and their team has spent time here. We chose to work with Fusion Garage on Prototype C and the launch prototype after we finished Prototype B internally.

We jointly own the CrunchPad product intellectual property, and we solely own the CrunchPad trademark.

So it’s legally impossible for them to simply build and sell the device without our agreement.

We’re still completely perplexed as to what happened. We think they were attempting to renegotiate the equity split on the company behind CrunchPad, which was to acquire Fusion Garage. Renegotiations are always fine. But holding a gun to our head two days before launching and insulting us isn’t the way to do that. We’ve spent the last week and a half trying unsuccessfully to communicate with them. Our calls and emails go unanswered, so we can’t even figure out exactly what’s happened.

Yesterday Chandra sent an email saying “Following our phone discussion, I had another round of discussions with my shareholders. The shareholders are not willing to move from their position as they believe their stand is justified. On the other hand, there isn’t an alternative offer on the table from Crunchpad.”

My response: “We have not come back to you with any counter offer to the email you forwarded because you and your shareholders have communicated to us that moving forward without us is something that you consider to be a legitimate and legal option. In other words, your “counter” offer is theft of intellectual property.”

Ultimately there are two sides to every story, and they’ll certainly have their side. We will almost certainly be filing multiple lawsuits against Fusion Garage, and possibly Chandra and his shareholders as individuals, shortly. The legal system will work it all out over time.

Mostly though I’m just sad. I never envisioned the CrunchPad as a huge business. I just wanted a tablet computer that I could use to consume the Internet while sitting on a couch. I’ve always pushed to open source all or parts of the project. So this isn’t really about money. It was about the thrill of building something with a team that had the same vision. Now that’s going to be impossible. And I’ve also lost a friend – Chandra spent months in our office this year and, until a week and a half ago, was the kind of young, determined entrepreneur that I admire. I thought we’d be friends for the rest of our lives.

And what’s really sad about all this is the incredible support we were getting from companies and people around the world to launch this device. A major multi-billion dollar retail partner has been patiently working with us for months, giving advice on manufacturing partners and offering to sell the CrunchPad at a zero margin to help us succeed in the early days. They were also willing to pay for the devices on order instead of 30 days after delivery, a crucial cash flow benefit that would allow us to ramp up volume without putting ourselves our of business. They were even willing to fly the devices from China on their own planes to eliminate our shipping costs. Intel, which would supply the Atom CPUs to power the device, has assisted us repeatedly with engineering and partner advice, and gave us pricing that was ridiculously generous given our projected first year sales volumes. Other partners were eager to promote and sell the device for little or no benefit on their end other than “supporting the project.” We even had sponsors lined up to help us sell the device near our $300ish cost.

And money wasn’t a problem, either. We had blue chip angel and venture capitalist investors in Silicon Valley waiting to invest in the company since late Spring. We were simply holding them off until we launched, to eliminate some of the risk.

It’s a sad day at TechCrunch HQ. Hitting the publish button on this post, which makes all of this so…final…is a very hard thing to do. I’m enraged, embarrassed, and just…sad. The CrunchPad is now in the DeadPool.
 

Dreamer1

Alfrescian
Loyal
This guy truly does not know what is cultural difference,

He had been sold by LKY's Asian values.

Too bad,but would come up again after learning this painful lesson!
 

cooleo

Alfrescian
Loyal
chandra-rathakrishnan-joojoo-photo.jpg


joojoo_1_300x274.jpg


0201-joojoo-tablet-ceo_full_600.jpg


4943_115813787951_8062627951_2855660_3081629_n.jpg


#
Arul Prasad you guys dint smack the cake on his face! Chandra has this record of doing that to almost everyone of of us here at FG, and when it was his turn, he escaped!

Guess we'll give him a birthday bash when he's back.
June 22, 2009 at 10:39pm · Report
#
Jay Javier somehow, saying that he's a jerk sounds like a very big understatement
December 2, 2009 at 4:43am · Report
#
Weimon Chi He's a jerk. And ugly!
December 8, 2009 at 11:26am · Report
#
David Franklin Yeah, REALLY ugly! I can't believe what he did to you guys. To think, he had the gall to try and get you to counter-offer on YOUR OWN PROJECT after saying he was pulling the rug out from under you. He's got a special place reserved for him in Hell.
 

Dreamer1

Alfrescian
Loyal
In true,many many more Ang Mohs kena screwed bigger time in PRC by our fellow Chinese comrades.

With India coming out,even more would happen there..

But in ture,the real winners are still the Ang Mohs.

I dom not think they are so so clever but I think they do have a better system

Few rising/proud and self assured Asians would concede this point.
 

johnny333

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
Everyone must have heard about how the 2 Steves started their empire from a garage. If they had relied on Indians & PRC I doubt they would have gotten anywhere.

Even LKY has his ideas on the importance of the right mix of Indians, Chinese, Malays. It is therefore surprising that he now supports the uncontrolled influx of so many foreigners :rolleyes:
 

silverfox@

Alfrescian
Loyal
By the time they finish quarrelling, new versions of ipads, tabs tablets, all come out into the market:p
 

scroobal

Alfrescian
Loyal
The PRC would have sold the garage from under them while the Indian would be busy building an organisation around it and filling it with his relatives. Lets not leave our Malay brothers who would be strumming the guitars for yet foreseen itunes and our Eurasian brothers would be organsing the BBQ and beer for the big celebration.

Old man would in the meantime would be writing his history how the name apple was first conceived by him and his wife saw the first draft on the name proposal.


Everyone must have heard about how the 2 Steves started their empire from a garage. If they had relied on Indians & PRC I doubt they would have gotten anywhere.

Even LKY has his ideas on the importance of the right mix of Indians, Chinese, Malays. It is therefore surprising that he now supports the uncontrolled influx of so many foreigners :rolleyes:
 

kingrant

Alfrescian
Loyal
Haha..you top form lah..

Lol.

The PRC would have sold the garage from under them while the Indian would be busy building an organisation around it and filling it with his relatives. Lets not leave our Malay brothers who would be strumming the guitars for yet foreseen itunes and our Eurasian brothers would be organsing the BBQ and beer for the big celebration.

Old man would in the meantime would be writing his history how the name apple was first conceived by him and his wife saw the first draft on the name proposal.
 

toolanliao

Alfrescian
Loyal
that same mama chap that starts radixs, then got 10 million funding in 2008 from TDB and few others then close shop within 2 years?

haha.. this bloody cheapo company and gang. no surprise.:rolleyes:

http://moconews.net/article/419-sin...-receives-10-million-in-funding-promotes-com/

Singapore’s Radixs Receives $10 Million In Funding, Launches IM & Social Networking Service

Services that combine IM and social networking are gaining steam. The newest addition to the space is VelvetPuffin, a free service from Radixs. The Singapore company (not much detail at this unusually enigmatic website) received $10 million in funding from Purple Ray, Artisan Encipta, the Economic Development Board of Singapore and Raffles Technology. Radixs is perhaps best known for MXI, a universal mobile operating system (OS), which the company developed but never launched.

after using up the 10 mil, close shop then removed his name from the failed venture.

new version
http://www.crunchbase.com/company/velvetpuffin

prior version
http://www.crunchbase.com/company/velvetpuffin/diff/2/3

mama sekar
 

cooleo

Alfrescian
Loyal
Oh dear....now that Apple even launch iPad 2 liao, ang mor still haven't settle the case. Looks like doing with business with ah neh means one thing - u fuck yourself!
 

cooleo

Alfrescian
Loyal
9882463976.jpg


After screwing ang mor, the chao ah neh went ahead to launch the tablet as JooJoo. Just look at the attached snapshot shown on website https://thejoojoo.com/sites/apps . Cheebye ah neh wanna con u by saying they have an appstore - the INTERNET! lol
 

Received_by_Kings

Alfrescian
Loyal
I dom not think they are so so clever but I think they do have a better system

Few rising/proud and self assured Asians would concede this point.

Yeah and those Third World China and India people would thwart the system or probably go even more underground. :rolleyes:
 
Top