An "FT" Asked Me A Cryptic Question

[jw5]

Took the mrt today and this is what happened.
I was standing leaning against the wall where the cabins are connected, a family of 3 were nearby (not directly beside me but after the doors), father was seated at the priority seat, mother next to him, daughter (about 5 or 6) was standing between them. Looked like FT from India.

The girl was shouting continuously. Every sentence was a shout/scream. Couldn't even decipher what she was shouting but it sounded like very mundane things, like the station names etc. The people around were looking at her, but nobody did or said anything.

Finally I went over and this is what transpired. I looked at and spoke to the father:

Me: Excuse me, can you please stop shouting.

Man: Huh?

Me: Excuse me, can you please stop shouting.
(I then walked back to where I was standing but heard him say this.)

Man: Why? blah blah blah blah................................... (didn't hear the rest)

Ok, perhaps I made a mistake in talking to the father and referring to "you" (although I thought it was pretty obvious) and walked away too soon. To be frank, I just wanted to make the point, but didn't really want a confrontation, for fear that I would lose my temper and hit him. But interested to know your opinion about 2 things:

1. What did he mean by "why"?

2. What should I have done or what would you have done?

 

[THE_CHANSTER]

Did he stop shouting after you asked or did he continue?

 

[jw5]

Did he stop shouting after you asked or did he continue?

Do u mean the daughter? She continued.

 

[laksaboy]

You were too polite.

If the girl was doing the shouting/screaming, address her directly. Do not address her parents.

Next time, try this:

[video=youtube;nc_LIR5ExIU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc_LIR5ExIU[/video]

 

[Kinana]

You should have asked the daughter to shut up, not him.
You ask him to shut up, of course he asked why.

 

[jw5]

If the girl was doing the shouting/screaming, address her directly. Do not address her parents.

You should have asked the daughter to shut up, not him.
You ask him to shut up, of course he asked why.

Actually for some strange reason, I wanted to address the "man" of the family.
I didn't even look at the wife when speaking to him. Can't really understand it, perhaps I wanted him to be responsible and didn't want to be seen to be bullying the girl or the mother. Still not sure that addressing the girl would have helped.

Btw, please don't suggest slapping the girl or hitting the father or anything illegal. It won't help the people trying to reduce such noises.

 

[Kinana]

First of all, I would tell him to get his girl to shut up.
If he refuses to do it and she continues, I will repeat the suggestion to him.
What can he do if you keep pressing him? Chances are he will comply.

 

[THE_CHANSTER]

Do u mean the daughter? She continued.

I suspect he probably didn't understand or was confused by your question.

Since the child was doing the shouting, I would have just ignored it or moved to another part of the carriage.
I can tolerate this kind of behavior more from kids than from adults.

Btw, if this were an Ang Mo, you probably would have got a curt response such as "Mind your own business" or "Don't tell me how my child should behave."

 

[jw5]

First of all, I would tell him to get his girl to shut up.
If he refuses to do it and she continues, I will repeat the suggestion to him.
What can he do if you keep pressing him? Chances are he will comply.

But almost everybody here keeps pressing and asking you to shut up but you keep continuing.
What makes you think the little spoilt brat will be any different?

 

[Kinana]

But almost everybody here keeps pressing and asking you to shut up but you keep continuing.
What makes you think the little spoilt brat will be any different?

then you shut up first la.

 

[scroobal]

JW

Seriously don't waste your time. The only way is the US Postal way where they had a series of massacres within a short span when upset postal counter staff shot dead customer and staff in separate incidents. People after that became unusually courteous to Postal counter staff.

It will be matter of time when a displaced Singaporean goes amok and massacres an FT or an entire FT family over a simple matter. The tipping point is so close. Already got drunk local Indian, the odd Chinese aunty etc that have started berating these low lives on MRT trains.

 

[laksaboy]

Actually for some strange reason, I wanted to address the "man" of the family.

If the father couldn't/wouldn't rein in his brat, talking to him would be nothing more than a futile attempt. A failed parent is analogous to a failed state.

Can't really understand it, perhaps I wanted him to be responsible and didn't want to be seen to be bullying the girl or the mother.

Next time, forget about what others think of you. Constantly fretting over other people's opinion of you leads for a very miserable life.

 

[jw5]

I suspect he probably didn't understand or was confused by your question.

Since the child was doing the shouting, I would have just ignored it or moved to another part of the carriage.
I can tolerate this kind of behavior more from kids than from adults.

Btw, if this were an Ang Mo, you probably would have got a curt response such as "Mind your own business" or "Don't tell me how my child should behave."

Thanks for your suggestion.
Thought it was pretty obvious to everyone that the child was shouting, she was doing it for at least 10 minutes.
But maybe he was confused too.

 

[Kinana]

JW

Seriously don't waste your time. The only way is the US Postal way where they had a series of massacres within a short span when upset postal counter staff shot dead customer and staff in separate incidents. People after that became unusually courteous to Postal counter staff.

It will be matter of time when a displaced Singaporean goes amok and massacres an FT or an entire FT family over a simple matter. The tipping point is so close. Already got drunk local Indian, the odd Chinese aunty etc that have started berating these low lives on MRT trains.

don't talk cock and don't talk big, you start the first massacre la.

 

[jw5]

It will be matter of time when a displaced Singaporean goes amok and massacres an FT or an entire FT family over a simple matter. The tipping point is so close. Already got drunk local Indian, the odd Chinese aunty etc that have started berating these low lives on MRT trains.

I was honestly concerned that I would lose my temper with him, that's why I walked away after saying it the second time.
Walking to another part of the cabin seems to be the best ideas so far, but what do we do if the train is crowded?
We just have to take it?

 

[Kinana]

I was honestly concerned that I would lose my temper with him, that's why I walked away after saying it the second time.
Walking to another part of the cabin seems to be the best ideas so far, but what do we do if the train is crowded?
We just have to take it?

why are you afraid to show him your temper? As long as you don't hit him, you are safe. Don't be afraid of confrontations or don't get involve in the first place.

 

[jw5]

If the father couldn't/wouldn't rein in his brat, talking to him would be nothing more than a futile attempt. A failed parent is analogous to a failed state.
Next time, forget about what others think of you. Constantly fretting over other people's opinion of you leads for a very miserable life.

We should be able to do something that is not illegal but yet effective.
Appreciate the suggestions and advice, but don't think walking away or telling the girl will work any better than telling the father.
Ok, forget about others' opinions, but we should be able to do something that stops inconsideration in public places.

 

[po2wq]

...

The girl was shouting continuously. Every sentence was a shout/scream. Couldn't even decipher what she was shouting but it sounded like very mundane things, like the station names etc. The people around were looking at her, but nobody did or said anything.

...

small kid oni ... let her shout ler ...

nutting much left 4 kids 2 njoy in sinkielan ...


if small dat time dun shout, nax time grow big oredi, cannot shout oredi ...

 

[scroobal]

Bro, you are not alone. A lot of Singaporeans are in a similar position. I am sure before the old's man body goes into the coffin there will be a significant event.

I was honestly concerned that I would lose my temper with him, that's why I walked away after saying it the second time.
Walking to another part of the cabin seems to be the best ideas so far, but what do we do if the train is crowded?
We just have to take it?

 

[Mdm Tang]

We should be able to do something that is not illegal but yet effective.
Appreciate the suggestions and advice, but don't think walking away or telling the girl will work any better than telling the father.
Ok, forget about others' opinions, but we should be able to do something that stops inconsideration in public places.

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All MRT train should have at least 2 service ambassodors ( 1 male 1 female)


then refer all these cases to them to handle.