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Amazing Huawei Mate 30 - It's Coming

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Huawei Insider Confirms Putting Google Apps On Huawei Mate 30 Pro 'Is Easy'
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Huawei’s next flagship, the Huawei Mate 30 Pro, looks gorgeous and is stuffed with advanced innovations and cutting-edge tech.

But, unless there’s a change in the political weather from President Trump, it will launch without a full-fat Google Android on board. This is not Huawei’s preference, but it has reluctantly said the phone will launch with AOSP, that’s the basic, open-source version of Android on it.

Which means there’s no Google Play Store, no Gmail, no Google Maps and so on, all of which require Google Mobile Services (GMS), and the current situation precludes Huawei launching with that.

There have been indications recently that loading GMS was far from impossible, though it could be fraught with difficulties and require a steady nerve.

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Now, though, there is evidence that loading Google apps to the Huawei Mate 30 Pro is quick, simple and highly effective. And that evidence comes from an impeccable source: someone inside Huawei itself.

The insider, speaking confidentially to me, explained that the process took them a matter of minutes, after which they logged into Google Play Store, and were then able to download apps seamlessly in a conventional way.

There are tutorials on the internet, including a useful one from the reliably excellent Damien Wilde at 9to5Google.

That’s good, because this method includes using a site called lzplay.net which is all in Chinese. Wilde’s tutorial helpfully indicates how to progress through this. Wilde says it’s a five-minute operation, too. The 9to5Google explainer also warns that this process is done at the user’s own risk – a standard comment on this kind of story.

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As you can see from the photograph above, the Huawei insider has been able to load Gmail, Google Maps, Play Store, YouTube, a folder of Google apps and more.

Moreover, I’m told that their Mate 30 Pro is completely stable and “working as you’d expect.” All apps, the source said, are “functioning brilliantly, the whole thing is easy.”

This doesn’t mean the process is completely without concerns, as explored by fellow Forbes contributor Zak Doffman here.

And it’s still, frankly, more complicated than many customers will want to get involved with. If other phones have all these items installed before they’re sold, many will choose those brands instead.

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But they won’t get Huawei’s stellar design, brilliant battery life, outstanding cameras and more. The side-loading system, now it's proving to be simple, makes a big difference. There are still sticking points. Netflix will not work to its fullest, but a simple way around that would be if Netflix puts its app in the Huawei App Gallery, its equivalent of the Google Play Store.

It's not a complete solution, then, but it certainly makes the phone much more enticing.

Although the best outcome for Huawei and customers alike would be the lifting of the trading ban between Huawei and the U.S. – something that still could happen – the fact that getting the Google apps people want onto the Mate 30 series of phones opens up a lot of exciting possibilities.

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Huawei Mate 30 Pro on sale tomorrow in China
The UK and Europe waits as China gets the best Huawei phone yet
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The Huawei Mate 30 and Mate 30 Pro have just got an official release date after their launch in Munich last week. If you’re in China, you’ll be able to buy the phones from tomorrow, 26 September (via GSMArena).

The big story for us with the Mate 30 phones is their lack of Google apps and services out of the box. Even though it’s not too hard to get Google apps on them (we did it) it’s not the best user experience. All other Android phones in the West have them fully installed, and for a phone that costs over 1,000 Euros, it’s seriously off putting.

No such problem in China, where Google simply doesn’t exist. Chinese retailers Vmall and JD have the phones up for pre-order already, so the official announcement is no surprise. After all, Huawei had to launch the phone somewhere.

We unboxed the Mate 30 Pro and it is a stunning phone. The quad cameras look to improve on the already stupendously good P30 Pro but it’ll be a tough sell for European buyers if it comes to our shores. Without easy access to Google services, we’d be cautious about spending this much money on a phone when you could buy a Samsung, Oppo, Sony or OnePlus phone with full Google integration.
 

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Huawei Has Already Sold A Million Mate 30s Before International Sales Begin

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The U.S. government’s ban on Huawei from doing business with Google has placed the Chinese phone giant’s recent flagship phone the Mate 30 in uncertain territory. The phone series has officially been launched in Munich, and European pricing has been announced, but there’s no word on when the phones will actually go on sale, likely because Huawei would like to resolve the Google issue before its international rollout.

In China, however, it’s business as usual for Huawei–and good business at that. The Mate 30 and Mate 30 Pro handsets went on sale this past Thursday and, according to Huawei, sold a million units in three hours.

Huawei’s a private company, so these figures can’t be verified, but photos of the crowd at Huawei’s new Shenzhen flagship store do show a packed house with long lines.

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Furthermore, stock on Taobao are currently out, and imported models of the Mate 30 are on sale in Hong Kong at a mark up of an extra HK$1,500–signs that demand surpasses supply.

Selling a million unit in under a week is impressive, but perhaps not surprising given Huawei’s popularity in its home country, which has only increased following the recent U.S. drama. Some Chinese citizens feel Huawei has been unfairly scrutinized by the Trump administration, and thus want to show their support out of a sense of patriotism. According to research firm Canalys, Huawei shipped 37.3 million phones in China in the second quarter of this year, up 31% over 2018. Huawei, in fact, was the only brand to increase sales over the previous year in China, as Apple, Xiaomi, Oppo and Vivo all suffered lower sales than their 2018 numbers.

I was able to secure a retail unit of the Mate 30 Pro on the first day they went on sale, and I’m currently in the midst of reviewing it. And while the verdict is still out on the open-sourced version of Android running on the phone, I can say that the hardware is yet again highly impressive and continues the hot streak of the P20 Pro, Mate 20 Pro, and P30 Pro.

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The Mate 30 series features a dual 40-megapixel sensor, with one being a standard lens and the other a wide-angle camera. This is the largest megapixel count in a wide-angle camera yet, and so far photos have been impressive.

I’ll have a full review, as well as a camera comparison against other top phones in the coming weeks.
 

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huawei software not as robust as it should be, i ma using huawei phone and whenever i want to backup the contents of the phone, sure got problem.
 

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huawei is supposed to sell 69 million new mates before launch as every ccp member is required to carry one. 1 million target reached is considered a failure.
 

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In China, however, it’s business as usual for Huawei–and good business at that. The Mate 30 and Mate 30 Pro handsets went on sale this past Thursday and, according to Huawei, sold a million units in three hours.

Of course. The mainland Tiongs are living in a totalitarian shithole behind a Great Internet Firewall, they're used to life without even access to the Google search engine.

An Android phone without Google apps and services straight out of the box is like a man without a penis.
 

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Huawei introduces Mate 30 series in Malaysia, priced from RM2,799

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Pre-orders for the Mate 30 Pro with 8GB RAM and 256GB storage will be available to eligible Malaysian consumers on Oct 3. — ANGELIN YEOH/The Star

Huawei has announced Malaysia as the first country after China where consumers can get their hands on the latest Mate 30 flagship phone series featuring Kirin 990 processors with rear triple- and quad- camera settings.

The company unveiled the Mate 30 Pro with 6.53in OLED display with FHD+ (2,400 x 1,176) resolution during the Huawei Malaysia Ecosystem Conference 2019 in Kuala Lumpur.

For now, the Mate 30 Pro will only be available for pre-order to Huawei Mate Series users who have owned two Huawei Mate Series devices through an Exclusive Ownership Campaign. A step-by-step tutorial for Huawei Mate series users to check their eligibility will be available on mate30proeoc.3ex.com.my starting 2pm today (Oct 3) until Oct 22, 2019.

Eligible Mate 30 Pro customers will be able to enjoy gifts worth RM1,155 which includes a wireless in-car SuperCharge charger worth RM289, a DJI Osmo Mobile 3 mobile gimbal worth RM499, a back casing worth RM68 and Huawei Care with extended one year warranty and six months screen crack warranty for users worth RM299.

The Mate 30 Pro sports an edge-to-edge Horizon display which curves at an 88° angle to give users more screen real estate. It also features a metallic ring design for its rear quad-camera setup which Huawei said replicates the design of a DSLR camera.

Its quad rear camera setup includes a a 40-megapixel Cine camera with ultra-wide angle lens, a 40-megapixel SuperSensing camera with wide-angle lens, an 8-megapixel camera with telephoto lens, and a 3D Depth Sensing camera.

The SuperSensing Cine camera is a dual main-camera system which allow users to record videos in super slow-motion at up to 7,680fps (frames per second) and ultra-wide angle low-light time-lapse video in 4K resolution as well as adding bokeh effects in real-time.

Huawei claims that its dual-camera system also produces better images in low-light conditions with ISO 409600 light sensitivity. For selfies, there is a 32-megapixel camera with 3D Depth Sensing camera that supports bokeh effects.

It is equipped with 8GB RAM and 256GB internal storage space, which can be further expanded to up to an additional 256GB with a nano microSD card. Other features include 4,000mAh battery capacity, in-screen fingerprint sensor and IP68 water- and dust-resistance rating.

The second model in the series is the Mate 30 with 6.62in display on OLED with FHD+ (2,340 x 1,080 resolution). It comes with 8GB RAM and 128GB internal storage space, with an option for users to expand to up to an additional 256GB via a nano MicroSD card.

Its rear triple-camera setup comprises a 40-megapixel SuperSensing camera, a 16-megapixel camera with ultra wide-angle lens and an 8-megapixel camera with telephoto lens.

The smartphone also comes with optical image stabilisation (OIS), along with laser focus, which are capable of 2.5cm macro photography, and a 24-megapixel selfie camera, as well as a 4,200mAh battery.

Both Mate 30 models run on EMUI 10 based on Android 10, support fast wired and wireless charging, while the Mate 30 Pro comes with upgraded reverse wireless charging for other compatible devices.

Both devices will be available in Space Silver and Black colour options. The Mate 30 Pro is priced at RM3,899 while the Mate 30 comes at RM2,799. Huawei will announce more information about the Mate 30 series availability later.
 

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Huawei Mate 30 Pro: The iPhone-Killer Nobody Will Buy

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The Mate 30 Pro will be landing in Australia later this year. Sadly, what should have been one of the most exciting phones of 2019 looks set to be the first real casualty of the ongoing US-China trade war. It could end up being the world's greatest phone that hardly anyone outside of China will buy.

Arriving after a string of well-received phones from Huawei, the Mate 30 Pro had the potential to really shake things up. But with no official access to Google services such as the Play Store, Maps or Gmail, its fate could well be sealed outside of China. For consumers, that's a real shame. Here's why.

Standout design
Huawei has been a trend setter as far as smartphone designs go, starting with the metallic gradient finish the company debuted with the P20 Pro that almost every other smartphone maker has mimicked since.

The Mate 30 Pro's display wraps right around the edges to an extreme degree, creating a waterfall screen effect in addition to a striking looking 'Vegan Leather' back option, showing once again that the company isn't afraid to experiment with smartphone aesthetics.

Raising the bar for smartphone cameras
Many camera hardware features that are now industry standard for high-end phones, including triple-lenses, a capable zoom system and computational night mode, all debuted first on Huawei flagships. This year's P30 Pro introduced an innovative periscope zoom lens that could pull off a 5x optical zoom and near lossless 10x zoom, as well as a unique RYYB image sensor which set a new benchmark for low-light smartphone photography, and forced the handsets that followed such as Samsung's Galaxy Note 10 and Apple's iPhone 11 to raise their games.

Huawei's big new camera feature for the Mate30 Pro is video at 7680 frames per second, for ultra slow motion that brings reality almost to a complete stop and far exceeds the 960fps we normally see on flagship smartphones. Respected photography benchmark company DxOMark has already praised the Mate 30 Pro as the best smartphone camera on the market with an overall score far above the competition.

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Most capable 5G smartphone
Huawei is the only smartphone manufacturer outside of Apple and Samsung that designs its own processors, with other handset makers relying on chips made by Qualcomm and Mediatek. This allows the company to drive meaningful innovation with optimisations at the chip level. For instance the AI engine built into the Kirin 980 enabled Huawei to leap ahead of competitors in computational photography with the P30 Pro. Huawei also makes its own modems, enabling its handsets to hit faster network speeds than the competition.

The 5G model of the Mate 30 Pro boasts a faster modem than the current crop of 5G smartphones, but more importantly it's the first smartphone to combine a system on a chip with a 5G modem onto a single piece of silicon, making it the most battery efficient 5G smartphone. The Mate 30 Pro also supports 5G on dual SIM cards, and considerably more 5G network bands globally, giving you a better chance of connecting to a 5G network when travelling abroad.

Dual biometric authentication
With 2018's Mate 20 Pro, Huawei was the first company outside of Apple to bring 3D face unlock to smartphones (not to be confused with the more common and less secure 2D-based face unlock, which can be easily fooled by photographs). Like its predecessor, the Mate 30 Pro offers more security than other handsets thanks to the ability to use both 3D Face Unlock and the in-screen fingerprint reader to unlock the phone.

Huawei is also taking a number of additional steps to protect people's data, going as far as safeguarding the user's dual biometric data by a CC EAL 5+ certification; the highest of any smartphone hardware to date. This biometric material is also stored in a specific space within the Mate 30 series’ storage that is segregated from the rest of the system for additional security. In addition, Huawei claims that IMEI data will be anonymised within apps in order to prevent user tracking, and cloud data is encrypted end-to-end.

Industry leading wireless charging
Anyone who has dabbled with wireless charging knows how painfully slow the process is, but the Mate 30 Pro is looking to change all that with a whopping 27W wireless charging. That means it's faster to charge wire-free than the iPhone 11 or Galaxy Note 10 is over a physical cable. The Mate 30 Pro is also leading the way when it comes to reverse charging with 3x faster charging speeds.

M-Pen brings Galaxy Note level digital scribing
Taking a leaf out of Samsung's Galaxy Note playbook, the Mate 30 Pro even supports pen input with the 'M-Pen', complete with a fine tip and 4096 levels of pressure sensitivity just like Samsung's S-Pen. There's nowhere to dock or charge the pen on the phone itself and it's sold separately as an accessory, but the option is at least there for those who want it.

Breaking the Apple and Samsung duopoly
The Huawei trade ban hurts competition in a market that sorely needs it. Western smartphone markets have become a duopoly where Apple and Samsung dominate while others are left far behind. Without the likes of Huawei to push them into more aggressive upgrade cycles, Apple and Samsung can afford to keep pace only with one another, leading to less meaningful innovation and higher prices.

Huawei is the second largest smartphone maker in the world, and while the majority of sales still come from its homeland, the Chinese smartphone maker is best placed to provide much needed competition for Apple and Samsung. Huawei's breakneck pursuit of new features has proven extremely enticing for phone buyers in Europe, for example, where it is closing in on second-placed Apple in terms of market share. Similarly, in Australia, Huawei has shot to a strong third position in a relatively short space of time.

But with the trade ban effectively cutting off Huawei's access to Google's apps and services, its rise as a challenger to Apple and Samsung could well be over.

This article originally appeared in Digital Life, The Sydney Morning Herald's home for everything technology. Follow Digital Life on Facebook and Twitter.
 

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The Huawei Mate 40 and Huawei Mate 40 Pro could be Huawei’s two best phones of 2020, but many questions surround them. Not just the usual questions of specs and features, but also whether they’ll run Android and whether they’ll even release in much of the world.
We don’t have concrete answers to any of that yet, but we can speculate, and as news and rumors start to roll in we’ll update you accordingly. The Huawei P40 launch - that's expected early in 2020 - may give us a clearer answer to that question.
In the meantime you’ll also find our wish list below for what we want from the Mate 40 range – it starts with full Android, but there’s plenty more that we’d like to see.
Cut to the chase
  • What is it? The successor to the Huawei Mate 30
  • When is it out? Late 2020
  • What will it cost? Around what other flagship phones cost
Huawei Mate 40 release date and price
The Huawei Mate 30 and Huawei Mate 30 Pro were announced on September 19, 2019, while the Huawei Mate 20 range landed in October 2018. So as there are no release date rumors yet we can’t narrow down the launch to a specific day or week, but the Mate 40 range is likely to land in September or October of 2020.
However, that’s not necessarily when you’ll be able to buy them. In fact, you might not easily be able to buy them at all, as due to the Huawei ban the availability of the Mate 30 range is unclear at the time of writing – the US won’t be getting them, but even in the likes of the UK and Australia there’s no confirmed availability right now. So this may well be the case for the Huawei Mate 40 range too.
As for price, for now we can only look at the Huawei Mate 30 range, with the standard phone costing €799 (around $880 / £700 / AU$1,300), while the Huawei Mate 30 Pro costs €1,099 (around $1,200 / £970 / AU$1,700). So prices may be similar for the Mate 40 range.
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Huawei Mate 40 news and rumors
Next to nothing is known about the Huawei Mate 40 and Mate 40 Pro yet, and it’s no wonder, with the phones not likely to launch until late 2020.
We have heard a couple of things though. Firstly, they’re likely to run Android – albeit without Google Play Services, leaving them in a similar situation to the Huawei Mate 30 range.
Huawei has built its own operating system, dubbed HarmonyOS, but has said it isn’t in any hurry to ditch Android for it.
It’s also rumored that the Huawei Mate 40 range will use a Kirin 1000 chipset. This chipset hasn’t been announced, but according to Huawei Central it will be the company’s first to be made on a 5nm process (making it smaller and more efficient than the Huawei Mate 30’s chipset) and will land in the second half of 2020, with the Huawei Mate 40 range being the first phones to use it.
While this is just a rumor for now it’s very believable, as Huawei follows a pattern of debuting new chipsets on the Mate range.
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The Huawei Mate 30 and especially the Huawei Mate 30 Pro are great phones, but with one major flaw and a number of smaller ones. Here’s how the next models could be improved.
1. Full Android
Our wish list for the Huawei Mate 40 doesn’t end at full Android (complete with Google Mobile Services), but it does start there.
Without this, however great the handset is in other ways it will be crippled. So we really hope Huawei can come to an arrangement with the US that allows it to resume using Google’s apps and services.
2. Bring back the volume buttons
The Mate 30 Pro made some daring design choices, including the removal of any physical volume buttons. Instead, you can use gesture controls to adjust the volume, and while these work well when the display is on, they don’t work at all when it’s off.
This is a real annoyance, so for the Huawei Mate 40 range we want either physical volume buttons or for the gesture controls to work when the display is off.
3. The same curves, without the vignetting
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This is another problem that only applies to the Huawei Mate 30 Pro, rather than the standard Mate 30, but it has a steeply curved screen that looks great – at least most of the time.
Sadly, those curves also create screen vignetting, which is something we’d like to see fixed for the next models. However, assuming Huawei can do that we’d love those sharp curves to be present on both the Mate 40 and Mate 40 Pro.
4. No more notch
While the Huawei Mate 30 and especially the Mate 30 Pro generally look good, they both sport notches, which are looking increasingly dated. So for the Huawei Mate 40 range we want the company to deliver an all-screen design with no notch and ideally no punch-hole either.
5. A sharper screen
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Despite its generally cutting-edge specs, the Huawei Mate 30 Pro has ‘just’ an 1176 x 2400 screen, while the standard Mate 30 has a similar resolution 1080 x 2340 one.
While these aren’t bad resolutions, they’re not quite QHD, and many rivals now have QHD+ displays, so we’d like to see a boost to at least 1440 x 2560 on the Huawei Mate 40 range.
6. A bundled stylus
The Mate range is in many ways a rival to the Samsung Galaxy Note range – bigger alternatives to each company’s ‘main’ flagship line. However, the Note range additionally stands out through Samsung’s S Pen stylus, which is a key component of each model.
While the Huawei Mate 30 Pro does support Huawei’s M-Pen, it doesn’t come with it, and the functionality is more limited than with Samsung’s S Pen.
So for the Huawei Mate 40 range we want the M-Pen to be a core component. It should ship with the phone, fit into a slot in the phone, and be packed full of features to help you get the most out of that inevitably large screen.
7. An in-screen camera
We reckon 2020 could be the year that we start seeing in-screen cameras in phones, and we want the Huawei Mate 40 (or at least the Huawei Mate 40 Pro) to be one of them. Not only would that be an impressive feature in its own right, it would also help get rid of the notch we were lamenting above.
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By the way, I spotted the Mate 30 at the Huawei shop in Vivocity (bridge linking Harbourfront and Vivocity). But the guy at the shop seemed very ronery, swatting flies.
 
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