Air Asia flight bound for Singapore lost contact with air traffic

[tun_dr_m]

RSN: I smart ass found QZ8501 飞机头

http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2015/01/14/AirAsia-fuselage-located/

Published: Wednesday January 14, 2015 MYT 7:33:00 PM
Updated: Wednesday January 14, 2015 MYT 7:57:30 PM
AirAsia QZ8501: Singapore navy ship locates wreckage of fuselage








SINGAPORE: A Singapore Navy ship has found the main wreckage of the AirAsia plane that crashed in the Java Sea two weeks ago.

Defence Minister Ng Eng Hen said in a Facebook post on Wednesday that the Autonomous Underwater Vehicle of RSN ship, MV Swift Rescue took photos that showed the wing and a portion of the fuselage whic

 

[tun_dr_m]

Re: RSN: I smart ass found QZ8501 飞机头

Published: Wednesday January 14, 2015 MYT 7:33:00 PM
Updated: Wednesday January 14, 2015 MYT 7:57:30 PM
AirAsia QZ8501: Singapore navy ship locates wreckage of fuselage








SINGAPORE: A Singapore Navy ship has found the main wreckage of the AirAsia plane that crashed in the Java Sea two weeks ago.

Defence Minister Ng Eng Hen said in a Facebook post on Wednesday that the Autonomous Underwater Vehicle of RSN ship, MV Swift Rescue took photos that showed the wing and a portion of the fuselage which had words on it.

Dr Ng said that Singapore has informed Basarnas, the Indonesian search authority, so it can begin to recover the missing parts of flight QZ8501.

"The accident is a tragic event resulting in the loss of many lives. I hope that with the fuselage located, some form of closure can come to the families of the victims to ease their grief," said Dr Ng.

He also thanked all the Singapore Armed Forces servicemen who were part of the multinational search party for QZ8501.

The SAF has deployed more than 400 personnel, two RSAF C-130 aircraft, two Super Puma helicopters, five navy ships and a six-man Autonomous Underwater Vehicle team in the operation. – The Straits Times/ANN

 

[JohnTan]

Re: RSN: I smart ass found QZ8501 飞机头

This proves that PAP did the right thing by spending a lot of money on military defense. Thanks to their wise investment in the SAF, we managed to do what the Indon navy could not.

 

[Pinoy]

Re: RSN: I smart ass found QZ8501 飞机头

This proves that PAP did the right thing by spending a lot of money on military defense. Thanks to their wise investment in the SAF, we managed to do what the Indon navy could not.

Our Philippines Navy would have found the plane within 48 hours. Your Navy seems to be lazy just like your Sinkie population.

 

[xpo2015]

Re: RSN: I smart ass found QZ8501 飞机头

Why is he taking the glory?

It is our National Servicemen who found the wreck!

Asian values again????!!

 

[JohnTan]

Re: RSN: I smart ass found QZ8501 飞机头

Our Philippines Navy would have found the plane within 48 hours. Your Navy seems to be lazy just like your Sinkie population.

The Pinoys have a navy?! Didn't see them when China staked its claim on the Spratly Islands.

 

[Pinoy]

Re: RSN: I smart ass found QZ8501 飞机头

The Pinoys have a navy?! Didn't see them when China staked its claim on the Spratly Islands.

And your paper generals are good and brave soldiers? gimme a break Loser Sinkie:p

 

[JohnTan]

Re: RSN: I smart ass found QZ8501 飞机头

And your paper generals are good and brave soldiers? gimme a break Loser Sinkie:p

They haven't been beaten in battle yet.

 

[Pinoy]

Re: RSN: I smart ass found QZ8501 飞机头

They haven't been beaten in battle yet.

Sinkies are all Losers. Just like you. Your genes are defective unlike our Pinoy genes.

 

[rocket]

Re: RSN: I smart ass found QZ8501 飞机头

Our Philippines Navy would have found the plane within 48 hours. Your Navy seems to be lazy just like your Sinkie population.

Pinoy can find plane?
Pinoy is worst in defence ability .
your corrupt goverment spend all on personal use.
when haiyan visited pinoy.
your cuntry ppl need to beg for help.
Pinoy can only dance sing song .
Useless good for nothing.

 

[SuperStylin]

Re: RSN: I smart ass found QZ8501 飞机头

Expect shitty times to take up the whole front page tomorrow.

 

[SuperStylin]

Re: RSN: I smart ass found QZ8501 飞机头

There are no survivors. All dead. :(

[video=youtube;P9VXjFzWIgE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9VXjFzWIgE[/video]

 

[Froggy]

Re: RSN: I smart ass found QZ8501 飞机头

SINGAPORE: A Singapore Navy ship has found the main wreckage of the AirAsia plane that crashed in the Java Sea two weeks ago.

Defence Minister Ng Eng Hen said in a Facebook post on Wednesday that the Autonomous Underwater Vehicle of RSN ship, MV Swift Rescue took photos that showed the wing and a portion of the fuselage whic

So what the fuck is it? Main or just part of fuselage? What stupid spin is this?

 

[Pinoy]

Re: RSN: I smart ass found QZ8501 飞机头

Pinoy can find plane?
Pinoy is worst in defence ability .
your corrupt goverment spend all on personal use.
when haiyan visited pinoy.
your cuntry ppl need to beg for help.
Pinoy can only dance sing song .
Useless good for nothing.

Wow...you are praising your own SAF. That's new? I thought you hated PAP and their management of their armies to the core.

Losing your bearings? Or balls?

 

[MrBlueSky]

If everybody looked the same

We'd get tired of looking at each other

 

[Animalize]

Indonesia investigators hope black box recorders will provide quick answers to AirAsia crash

Analysts expect to resolve the mystery behind the crash from information in its flight and cockpit recorders in a few days, although a full report will not be released for at least a year

PUBLISHED : Wednesday, 14 January, 2015, 2:10pm
UPDATED : Wednesday, 14 January, 2015, 3:56pm

Officials display the cockpit voice recorder of AirAsia flight QZ8501 at the National Transportation Safety Committee office in Jakarta on Tuesday. Photo: Reuters

Indonesian investigators began on Wednesday examining the black box flight recorders from the AirAsia passenger jet that crashed more than two weeks ago, and hope to unlock initial clues to the cause of the disaster within days.

Divers retrieved the flight data and cockpit voice recorders this week from the sunken wreckage of flight QZ8501, which lost contact with air traffic control halfway into a two-hour flight from Indonesia’s second biggest city Surabaya to Singapore. All 162 people on board were killed.

The recorders were lifted from the bottom of the Java Sea and sent to the capital, Jakarta, for analysis. Both were found to be in relatively good condition.

“In one week, I think we will be getting a reading,” said Mardjono Siswosuwarno, head investigator for the National Transportation Safety Committee (NTSC).

The so-called black boxes – which are actually coloured orange – contain a wealth of data that will be crucial for investigators piecing together the sequence of events that led to the Airbus A320-200 plunging into the sea.

Data from the flight data recorder took only 15 minutes to download, but investigators will now need to analyse up to 25 hours of information and several thousand flight parameters covering things such as flying speed, altitude, fuel consumption, air pressure changes and inputs to the aircraft’s controls.

“We are feeling relieved but there is still a lot of work ahead of us to analyse it,” said Siswosuwarno.

Investigators were expected later on Wednesday to begin downloading data from the cockpit voice recorder, which retains the last two hours of conversations on the flight deck and between the pilots and to air traffic controllers.

As is standard procedure, the NTSC will file a preliminary report, which will be made public, to the International Civil Aviation Organisation within 30 days. A final report on the crash is not expected to be published for at least a year, Siswosuwarno said.

Indonesian air force personnel manoeuvre a helicopter as they resume the search for the fuselage of the ill-fated AirAsia flight in Pangkalan Bun on Tuesday. Photo:

After the recovery of the two black boxes, Indonesia is expected to scale back search and rescue operations in the Java Sea.

But government officials sought to reassure victims’ families that efforts to retrieve the remains of their loved ones would continue.

“I have told [the families] that ending the main operation does not mean ending the search,” Bambang Soelistyo, head of the National Search and Rescue Agency, told reporters in Surabaya late on Tuesday.

Forty-eight bodies have been plucked from the Java Sea and brought to Surabaya for identification. Searchers believe more bodies will be found in the plane’s fuselage, which has yet to be located.

“We understand if the search becomes smaller ... but the bodies have to be found,” said Frangky Chandry, whose younger brother was on the plane. “We want to bury our family. That’s what we want.”

 

[Animalize]

Fuselage of crashed AirAsia jet ‘located in Java Sea’

PUBLISHED : Wednesday, 14 January, 2015, 7:00pm
UPDATED : Wednesday, 14 January, 2015, 10:25pm

Agence France-Presse in Pangkalan Bun

An image released the Republic of Singapore Navy shows the fuselage of the AirAsia plane that crashed into the Java Sea in late December. Photo: AFP

A Singaporean navy ship on Wednesday located the main body of the AirAsia plane that crashed into the Java Sea late last month, believed to be the resting place of most of the 162 victims.

Flight QZ8501 crashed on December 28 in stormy weather during a short, routine flight from the Indonesian city of Surabaya to Singapore.

[video=youtube;HHmpNzgyMRM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHmpNzgyMRM[/video]

The discovery of the fuselage is the latest boost in a slow-moving search operation often hampered by bad weather. It followed the recovery this week of both the plane’s black boxes, which contain vital information to determine what caused the crash.

“The MV Swift Rescue has located the fuselage of the AirAsia plane in the Java Sea,” said Singapore’s Defence Minister Ng Eng Hen in a Facebook post, adding that Indonesian search and rescue officials had been informed.

“The accident is a tragic event resulting in the loss of many lives. I hope that with the fuselage located, some form of closure can come to the families of the victims to ease their grief.”

His post was accompanied by underwater photos of what appeared to the fuselage. The words “now” and “everyone” are visible, apparently from AirAsia’s motto “Now Everyone Can Fly” painted on the plane’s exterior.

Indonesia’s national search and rescue chief Bambang Soelistyo confirmed that the fuselage had been found by the Singaporean ship and said divers would head to the wreckage on Thursday.

“It’s dark today, its not possible to dive, so we will dive tomorrow. The main focus is to find victims in the fuselage,” he told reporters.

“If it’s difficult we will lift [the fuselage] up either in part or in whole.”

Finding the main body of the Airbus 320-200 has been seen as vital, as most of the victims are believed to be still trapped inside. Just 48 bodies have so far been recovered.

The Singapore navy ship was part of a huge international hunt for the plane, which also included US and Chinese ships.

Vital black boxes

The so-called black boxes – which are actually orange in colour – have been flown to Jakarta, where Indonesia’s National Transport Safety Committee is leading a probe into the accident, helped by experts from countries including France and the United States.

The country’s meteorological agency has said bad weather may have caused the crash but only the black boxes will be able to provide definitive answers.

Investigators have started retrieving data from the recorders and converting it into a usable format, which will take around a week, before the lengthy analysis process can begin, committee head Tatang Kurniadi said.

The flight data recorder holds a wealth of information about every major part of the plane, with details such as the jet’s speed and the direction it was heading in, while the cockpit voice recorder stores radio transmissions and sounds in the cockpit.

The committee has said a preliminary report on the accident will be produced within a month, and a final report after a year.

At a port near Pangkalan Bun, the search headquarters on Borneo island, Indonesian investigators and their French counterparts also began examining the tail, which was lifted out of the water at the weekend.

Before take-off, the plane’s pilot had asked for permission to fly at a higher altitude to avoid a major storm but the request was not approved due to other planes above him on the popular route.

In his last communication, the experienced pilot said he wanted to change course to avoid the storm. Then all contact was lost, about 40 minutes after take-off.

All but seven of those on board the flight were Indonesian. The foreign nationals were from South Korea, Singapore, Malaysia, Britain and France.

 

[Animalize]

Bad weather, visibility prevent search of AirAsia fuselage

By FADLAN SYAM
Jan. 15, 2015 9:42 AM EST

A student of Petra Christian University holds a flower near the memorial walls of their friends who were on board of the ill-fated AirAsia Flight 8501, at their campus in Surabaya, East Java, Indonesia, Wednesday, Jan. 14, 2015. A Singaporean navy ship has located the fuselage of the crashed AirAsia plane in the Java Sea, Singapore's defense minister said Wednesday. (AP Photo/Trisnadi)

PANGKALAN BUN, Indonesia (AP) — Bad weather and poor underwater visibility on Thursday prevented Indonesian navy divers from searching inside the large chuck of AirAsia jet wreckage that is believed to be the fuselage.

At least 15 divers descended to the seabed at a depth of 28 meters (92 feet) to examine the piece of wreckage spotted Wednesday, calculate its weight and search for bodies. They were unable to do so because of the weather and sea conditions, said Suryadi Bambang Supriyadi, the operation director at the National Search and Rescue Agency.

He said it appeared that some parts of the fuselage have been covered with silt. When bodies are found, the divers would try to put them in individual body bags, which rescuers on ships would then hoist to the surface, he said.

The 30-meter-long (100-foot-long) section of the plane body with a wing attached was sighted on the bottom of the Java Sea by a Singaporean navy ship.

Only 50 bodies have been recovered since the plane disappeared from radar and crashed in the sea Dec. 28 en route from Surabaya, Indonesia, to Singapore. Most of the 162 victims are Indonesian.

Rescuers believe that most of the bodies are inside the main fuselage.

Search and Rescue Agency chief Henry Bambang Soelistyo said the large piece of wreckage would be lifted from the seabed after the search for bodies was no longer considered effective.

The plane's flight data and cockpit flight recorders were retrieved earlier this week and will be key to learning the cause of crash. Bad weather is a suspected factor.

Nine aircraft and 10 ships conducted search operations Thursday. Two U.S. ships and one from Singapore have left, Soelistyo said.

The destroyer USS Sampson and combat ship USS Fort Worth left for other assignments after contributing more than 650 search hours for the AirAsia flight.

"The U.S. was extremely proud to assist" the search effort, U.S. Ambassador to Indonesia Robert O. Blake said. "We are all pleased with the recovery of the black boxes and location of portions of the plane that we hope will shed some light on the cause of this tragedy."

 

[Animalize]

AirAsia families offered half the compensation given to MH370 relatives

Initial payment offered by Allianz to families on AirAsia flight is half that made to those who lost relatives on MH370 and MH17

Anger at initial compensaton offer to bereaved AirAsia families Photo: EPA

By David Millward
8:00AM GMT 15 Jan 2015

Families of the 162 people killed on the AirAsia Flight QZ8501 have been offered initial payments half of those made to those bereaved in the last year’s Malaysia Airlines disasters.

The initial Advance Compensation Payment of 300 million Indonesian Rupiah (£15,700) is designed to help families deal with the immediate financial consequences of last month’s crash.

However, according to James Healy-Pratt, a leading aviation lawyer, the families who were on a budget carrier, have been treated less well than those on Malaysia Airlines – a traditional “flag carrier”- by the insurers, Allianz.

The company is acting on behalf of both AirAsia and Malaysia Airlines

“I have had real difficulty explaining to families that we are helping why Air Asia and its London Lead Aviation Insurer, Allianz, have offered each family precisely half of what Allianz offered families of MH370 and MH17,” he said.

“A good number of families have rejected this cut price offer of advanced compensation, and the feeling is that a low cost airline like Air Asia should not be treating the bereaved families of passengers cheaply, compared to flag carriers like Malaysian.”

Mr Healy-Pratt called on Tony Fernandes, AirAsia’s owner to step in.

“If he really cares about the Air Asia 8501 families, then he should intervene without delay and offer each family US$50,000 (£33,000)

”I really hope for the sake of the Air Asia families that low cost does not mean low compensation.”

The Montreal Convention establishes the final compensation families can expect.

Calculated in a “currency” known as Special Drawing Rights, the payment is set at 113,100 SDR – about £106,000.

However larger payments have been made after negotiation. Families bereaved in a 2007 crash involving another low cast carrier in Indonesia – Adam Air – were paid $400,000 (£264,000).

A spokesman for Allianz declined to discuss the difference between the advance compensation payments made to the families bereaved in the AirAsia and Malaysia Airlines flights.

A spokesman said: “Allianz Global Corporate & Specialty confirms that, in line with established practice and with the full support of our client AirAsia, initial payments are being offered to the relatives of all on board flight QZ8501.

“These payments are in no way final settlements; they are initial payments to provide some financial relief to all those involved at this extremely difficult time. We will agree further compensation in due course in consultation with all involved parties.”

 

[Victory2016]

Recording of last moments of QZ8501 - comms bet Air Traffic Control and First Officer

[video=youtube;8agL0N9Hcvs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8agL0N9Hcvs[/video]


Note the last few moments - panic ? or......?