Air Asia flight bound for Singapore lost contact with air traffic

[eErotica69]

Re: Karma to Tony AirAsia Tony Fernandes - Your Plane Will Never Get Lost

May i ask you.. when there is a need for protest..did you join in ?

He was KPKBing behind his PC like you.

 

[Royahroy]

Re: Karma to Tony AirAsia Tony Fernandes - Your Plane Will Never Get Lost

The plane isn't lost, it's still on Earth.

 

[laksaboy]

Re: Karma to Tony AirAsia Tony Fernandes - Your Plane Will Never Get Lost

Fcuk the PAP with their stupid Pioneer generation card they are trying to FOOL all the old people of Sickapoor!!

Go Polyclinic than you'll know, blood test one syringe suck small tube of blood, price $50.00 they state Government
subsidy 70% whatever cost $7.50!! they increase sky high price than give subsidy, hey Mee Siam Mai Hum you think the
Pioneer generation were born yesterday ?? Than comes medicines NO Subsidy $200.00 oh never mind you don't have to pay

Bloody hell they go into your Medisave account and dig one big HOLE!! without you realising it!! This is PAP
they have the heart but they cheat you! They don't do what they preached !!

Than you asked how come medicine got no subsidy?? answer NEXT YEAR! true or NOT??
God knows!!

PAP trying hard to psycho the Pioneers to vote for it.

After the election the PAP will kick them aside and leave them to rot in small flats or hospices.

 

[quartz28]

Most Indons are the most 'un-Muslim' Muslim people you'll find. They're happy, carefree, party people. Similar to Lebanese, Turks, Iranians and Moroccans.

The crazy fundie Muslims are only found in the Arabian peninsula.

Also Malaysia and Philippine Muslim.....

 

[McDonaldsKid]

Re: Karma to Tony AirAsia Tony Fernandes - Your Plane Will Never Get Lost

Fcuk the PAP with their stupid Pioneer generation card they are trying to FOOL all the old people of Sickapoor!!Go Polyclinic than you'll know, blood test one syringe suck small tube of blood, price $50.00 they state Governmentsubsidy 70% whatever cost $7.50!! they increase sky high price than give subsidy, hey Mee Siam Mai Hum you think the Pioneer generation were born yesterday ?? Than comes medicines NO Subsidy $200.00 oh never mind you don't have to payBloody hell they go into your Medisave account and dig one big HOLE!! without you realising it!! This is PAPthey have the heart but they cheat you! They don't do what they preached !!Than you asked how come medicine got no subsidy?? answer NEXT YEAR! true or NOT??God knows!!

Que? Wrong thread?

 

[McDonaldsKid]

Apparently some suspicious objects have been spotted in the sea.

 

[McDonaldsKid]

#QZ8501: Australian Orion aircraft detects suspicious objects near Nangka island, 1,120km from location where plane lost contact: Official

 

[GOD IS MY DOG]

Re: It's really a bad idea to climb over the thunderstorm...AirAsia QZ8501

When there is a raging thunderstorm and turbulence in the sky and you're flying at 32k feet, it is really a bad idea to climb over the thunderstorm to elevate to 38k feet, because while the plane is climbing, it is at an angle and at that speed, and still within the turbulent clouds, it can easily tilt over and stall. Besides, the higher you go, the chance of ice crystals forming and disrupting your instruments becomes higher. Clearly, the safe manoeuvre is to divert your route away from the thunderstorm at the same altitude, because one cannot out-climb a thunderstorm, which is known to form all the way to 55k feet and some even to 90k feet.

yes.....you're right......that's why the pilot changed his mind and dived into the sea to avoid the thunderstorm...........

 

[soIsee]

Re: It's really a bad idea to climb over the thunderstorm...AirAsia QZ8501

When there is a raging thunderstorm and turbulence in the sky and you're flying at 32k feet, it is really a bad idea to climb over the thunderstorm to elevate to 38k feet, because while the plane is climbing, it is at an angle and at that speed, and still within the turbulent clouds, it can easily tilt over and stall. Besides, the higher you go, the chance of ice crystals forming and disrupting your instruments becomes higher. Clearly, the safe manoeuvre is to divert your route away from the thunderstorm at the same altitude, because one cannot out-climb a thunderstorm, which is known to form all the way to 55k feet and some even to 90k feet.

m&ds are like that one. Ask them to use 'complicated instruments' and change the way they usually do things..

They cannot one.

So like I say, you train a m&d to do something in one way and if situation arise, they got to use another more 'complicated method'...

They will blur out and if honest, they will say they cannot do things the 'other way'!

So from the above description what will you do?

Use a shit skin to do the job instead?

Or spend alot more to get an ANG MO?LoL

 

[McDonaldsKid]

Re: It's really a bad idea to climb over the thunderstorm...AirAsia QZ8501

Add up all 3 flights: mh370, mh17 and qz8501 and wat u get?8888Huat Ah!!!!!

Well, now THAT's freaky.

 

[virus]

Re: It's really a bad idea to climb over the thunderstorm...AirAsia QZ8501

Spot on!! the plane might have climb beyond its limit and threshold,
and visit the Aerospace Bermuda triangle!

Disappear with a trace!

How too? It was not allowed as there is or was gg to HV another plane coming over. So thr Bs don't make sense. Another plane cross over Boh taji. Why Malaysian plane always so suay? Must b najib or tonychat suay king.

 

[Animalize]

UPDATE 1-Allianz lead reinsurer to missing AirAsia plane

Mon Dec 29, 2014 2:02am EST

* Third major aviation accident for Allianz in 2014

* Allianz also insurer for lost Malaysia Airlines planes

* Allianz declines to give estimates of possible liabilities

* Minimum liability seen at around $100 mln (Updates throughout)

By Lawrence White

HONG KONG, Dec 29 (Reuters) - German insurer Allianz said on Monday it was the lead re-insurer to the AirAsia jet missing off the Indonesian coast with 162 people on board, making it the third major airline accident it has been involved in this year.

The German company, which has Malaysia Airlines as a client, was the main reinsurer to flight MH370 that disappeared over the Indian Ocean in March, as well as to flight MH17 which was shot down in July while flying over Ukraine.

"We can confirm that Allianz Global Corporate & Specialty UK (AGCS) is the lead reinsurer for AirAsia, for aviation hull and liability insurance," an Allianz spokeswoman said in a statement emailed to Reuters.

Aviation incidents accounted for four of the top 10 major insurance losses not linked to natural catastrophes in the first eight months of 2014, putting pressure on aviation claims that are already rising due to the use of expensive materials and demanding safety regulation, an Allianz report said.

Allianz declined to comment on the extent of its exposure or to identify other insurers with exposure to the missing Indonesia AirAsia plane, an Airbus A320-200.

But Reuters calculations show the minimum payout to cover for this accident could be around $100 million.

"It is much too early to comment on reports of this incident at this stage, except to say that our thoughts and prayers are with all those affected by this missing flight," Allianz said.

The plane disappeared on Sunday after its pilot failed to get permission to fly higher to avoid bad weather during a flight from the Indonesian city of Surabaya to Singapore. Indonesian officials believe it crashed into the Java Sea.

As with the two Malaysia Airlines crashes, Allianz and its co-insurers will have to foot the bill for the cost of the missing Indonesia AirAsia aircraft, as well as for payments due to the relatives of the passengers that were aboard the flight.

The Airbus 320 sells for an average price of $94 million, according to Airbus's website. However, according to the age of the aircraft, the hull is likely to be insured for a lower sum.

For passenger liability, an international aviation agreement called the Montreal Convention caps initial payouts at around$165,000 per passenger at current exchange rates, or about $27 million total for the 162 passengers aboard the AirAsia flight.

But if the airline is found to have been at fault, such as through pilot error, the claims could be much higher.

"This is going be identical to MH370 and MH17 in the sense there are standard minimum insurance obligations which all carriers have to have, but if negligence can be demonstrated the sky's the limit in terms of claims," said John Ribbands, an independent Melbourne-based lawyer expert in aviation insurance.

JLT Group was the insurance broker for the AirAsia plane, the company told Reuters in a separate statement. (Reporting by Lawrence White; Additional reporting by Carolyn Cohn; Writing by Lisa Jucca; Editing by Michael Perry)

 

[Animalize]

Australian plane spots objects in sea in AirAsia search area

Dec. 29, 2014 2:45 AM EST

SURABAYA, Indonesia (AP) — An Indonesian official says objects have been spotted in the sea by a search plane hunting for the missing AirAsia jet.

Jakarta's Air Force base commander Rear Marshal Dwi Putranto says he was informed Monday that an Australian Orion aircraft had detected suspicious objects near Nangka island, about 100 miles (160 kilometers) southwest of Pangkalan Bun, near central Kalimantan, or 700 miles (1,120 kilometers) from the location where the plane lost contact.

"However, we cannot be sure whether it is part of the missing AirAsia plane," Putranto says, "We are now moving in that direction, which is in cloudy conditions."

 

[Animalize]

Location of unidentified debris spotted in sea

Details are still hazy as to what exactly has been detected by an Australian Orion spotter plane in the Java sea but according to reports this is the debris’s location.

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[ahhock24]

Re: It's really a bad idea to climb over the thunderstorm...AirAsia QZ8501

No leh, he has 6,000 hrs and the co-pilot has 2,200 hrs, but this is sufficient.

How big is a plane? Cant be so big as to be restricted by airspace. If one cannot fly around, then most likely cannot fly above, since the clouds is not just broad, but deep.

Reported flight hours dunno can be trusted. To keep cost low, they probably use barely experience pilots.

 

[virus]

no oily slick is not a good sign

 

[sochi2014]

Re: It's really a bad idea to climb over the thunderstorm...AirAsia QZ8501

Why Asians cannot find missing planes in sea one? Angmos every time can find if they put there minds hearts and souls into it.

 

[sochi2014]

see I told you angmo is lumber one again

Australian plane spots object in sea while hunting for AirAsia flight QZ8501debris
ANI | Washington Dec 29, 2014

An Indonesian official has said that an Australian plane spotted some objects in the sea while searching for the missing AirAsia flight QZ8501.

According to ABC News, Jakarta's Air Force base commander Rear Marshal Dwi Putranto said that he was informed that some suspicious objects were found near Nangka island, 700 miles from the location where the plane lost contact.

However, it can not be confirmed if the object is a part of the missing AirAsia plane, said Putranto. He also said that they were now heading towards that direction in cloudy conditions.

The search for the missing flight was immediately launched with vessels and aircraft from Indonesia, Singapore and Malaysia but nothing was reported to be found before nightfall.

The missing plane was en route from Indonesia to Singapore with 162 people on board.

 

[Animalize]

Family member claims receiving text message missing plane safe, says report

The Malaysian Insider – Sun, Dec 28, 2014

As authorities scramble to find out what happened to AirAsia flight QZ8501, so far believed to have crashed in the waters of Belitung, an Indonesian news portal Detik.com reported that there might still be hope.

It reported from Surabaya that a family of a missing passenger received a glimmer of hope via a Blackberry Messenger (BBM) text.

The portal quoted Intan, the sister of passenger Martinus Djomy as saying: "Kabarnya mendarat darurat di Belitung Timur, semua selamat. Tapi kita tetap butuh kepastian."

(We got word that that the plane made an emergency landing in Belitung Timur, everyone is safe. But we still need to be sure.)

Intan said she learned about this from a friend who sent her the text message via BBM.

Her brother Martinus was travelling to Singapore with his wife, child and babysitter.

Detik.com reported that the piece of information was passed on to the authorities at the crisis centre in Juanda.

The news portal added that unfortunately, there remains no confirmation from relevant authorities whether the information was accurate or otherwise.

In a separate story, Detik.com also quoted Nasional Search and Rescue Agency (Basarnas) Jakarta chief Sutrisno as saying that the agency's radar did not detect the flight's Emergency Locator Transmitter (ELT).

He said the ELT would go off if there was impact or if the plane had gone under water.

"If the plane landed smoothly on water, it wouldn't have gone off, unless the device was not working. It didn't go off so Basarnas doesn't know its position now," Detik quoted him as saying.

There are 155 passengers and seven crew members aboard the Singapore-bound jet, which had lost contact with the Surabaya air traffic control after it flew out of the east Java city at 5.20am Indonesian time. It was due to land at 8.30am Singapore time.

Indonesian nationals make up 156 of the 162 onboard, with the rest comprising three South Koreans, one Malaysian, one Singaporean and one French.

Earlier this afternoon, reports quoted a National Search and Rescue Agency (Basarnas) official from Pangkalpinang, Supriandi, that the missing Airbus A320 was believed to have crashed at the location 03.22.46 South and 108.50.07 East, in waters around 80 to 100 nautical miles from Belitung.

Antara news agency reported that a rescue team had been despatched to Belitung.

It was reported that the missing flight had circled over the sea near Belitung to avoid a storm before it experienced severe turbulence and crashed into the ocean, reports said. – December 28, 2014.

 

[vtran2684]

Hardly any Ang Mohs on board. That's why West doesnt want to help.