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A Workers Party Cabinet Line-up

I believe Low Thia Khiang never had it in his mind to fight the PAP for power. Like all Singaporeans he wondered what would happen one day if the PAP failed. Did Singapore have a plan B? One could not reasonably expect the PAP to come up with such a Plan. Unlike most of us, he actually did something. The PAP kind of management requires a breed of super beings. We do not have an endless supply of such people. Raising salaries to millions was an attempt to draw such people into government. Obviously, that has not worked. In fact people are enraged at the perception they have got less than what they paid for. Everyone knows the PAP needs to be reformed. This is changing tyres while the car is moving. The WP does not have all the talent it needs to form a government. There is enough talent but it is spread out amongst various parties. AS GY says " whither Singapore".

The PAP has not explained the kind of Singapore it is trying to build. They only understand GDP. All "pragmatic" measures must be taken to grow GDP. This is not a criticism. Every party grows up around some central tenet. If you plan to stay in Singapore just ask yourself if that is good enough for you.
 
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WP had the most logical 2011 manifesto. Defn not sdpls anti military budget. But cabinet is a long way off
 
..... although the WP may not want to form the next Govt,

WP did not and does not say it dun want to form the next Govt. Period.

It is in the voters' collective hand to decide where Singapore governance will go.


..... Any credible political party must hope to be the govt one day

Of course. And I'm sure WP does too.


....... that LTK and SL are prepared to form the next govt

I guess we'll never know if they are prepared or not, until they are entrusted to do that job.
 
......... There are other important portfolios like transport, national development.

That's the eventual problem anyone will face if he expects WP to form the next Govt/Shadow Cabinet...... headcount not enuff !!!!!!!!!!
 
If WP takes over... PMO can save alot on their salary! All junior officers...
 
Prefer our ministers to be expert in their fields.
In many countries, ministers do not need to be selected MP.
The able and efficient ministers should be handpicked by winning party, then approved by parliament.

The problem is when a guy becomes too much of an expert and deep, his field of expertise narrows. Ministers should be people with broad vision rather than deep knowledge as they can employ people with deep knowledge to support them.
 
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He is great but not a Minister kind, yet.

How do you judge? Oratorical skill? Political maturity? Just look at the PAP ministers. What do you think? As the Chinese would say 时势造英雄。
 
No reason why CSM cannot be a minister NOW if we have CCS and many clowns as ministers. CSM succeeded in the real world.


Yeah. As Fook Seng said, you don't need to be an expert, you need to be someone with broad vision. I think CSM fits the bill too.
 
I certainly agree that there ought to be a Shadow Cabinet in the event of the PAP being swept away via the power of the ballot-box.

There will also be other areas that ought to be looked at in such an eventuality.

Who will become the CJ, AG, SG, Perm Secs, Directors ISD, CPIB, PA and so many more.....The list goes on.

The WP should now prepare the list with their Cabinet line-up and people for the other positions mentioned above.

It should also prepare a list for ambassadorial positions.
 
I certainly agree that there ought to be a Shadow Cabinet in the event of the PAP being swept away via the power of the ballot-box.

There will also be other areas that ought to be looked at in such an eventuality.

Who will become the CJ, AG, SG, Perm Secs, Directors ISD, CPIB, PA and so many more.....The list goes on.

The WP should now prepare the list with their Cabinet line-up and people for the other positions mentioned above.

It should also prepare a list for ambassadorial positions.

I think LTK believes the Chinese saying: A ship will automatically straighten out once alongside.
 
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Who will become the CJ, AG, ........

High Court judges have security of tenure i.e. they cannot be removed until they reach the age of 65. Prior to that age a High Court judge can only be removed by a tribunal of 5 "on the ground of misbehaviour or of inability, from infirmity of body or mind or any other cause" affecting his ability "to properly discharge the functions of his office".

Please see Article 98 of the Constitution here: http://statutes.agc.gov.sg/aol/sear...ansactionTime:12/03/2013 Status:inforce;rec=0

Me thinks Soon-There'll-Be-Less-Melons will still be way below 65 in 2016.

However, me also thinks our judges know which side of the bread to butter. Once the Executive arm (Ministars, Perm Secs, etc) has been purged of PAPzi cronies, the rest will follow. Back in law school, my lecturers always said "the Judiciary relies on the Executive to carry out its judgments".

The AG on the other hand is a member of the Executive, has no security of tenure, and can be removed at any time.
 
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The problem is when a guy becomes too much of an expert and deep, his field of expertise narrows. Ministers should be people with broad vision rather than deep knowledge as they can employ people with deep knowledge to support them.

Nonsense. Ministers are in charge of one specific field so that they can be easily questioned by the public and parliamentarians
 
Nonsense. Ministers are in charge of one specific field so that they can be easily questioned by the public and parliamentarians

When you are talking of the scope of study of an academic, you could be talking of the impact of foreign imports on the economic growth of the country or the effect of opposition members in Parliament on the governance of Singapore. When you are a Minister, you need to have a broader vision than that. Sometimes being an expert in a narrow field actually handicaps you.
 
Who will become the CJ, AG, SG, Perm Secs, Directors ISD, CPIB, PA and so many more.....The list goes on.

The WP should now prepare the list with their Cabinet line-up and people for the other positions mentioned above.

It should also prepare a list for ambassadorial positions.

These are salaried workers. Don't think the present appointment holders are all there are. Many who have been suppressed because of their political leaning can now rise up to fill the positions.
 
Yeah. As Fook Seng said, you don't need to be an expert, you need to be someone with broad vision. I think CSM fits the bill too.

If lucky, need not be an expert. A good PS and his team can carry their minister through thick and thin. Think WKS. Think MBT. Many more.
 
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