A Lack Of Thought Process

[boundThunter]

It is not a lack of thought process but the age old question of "could I get away with this ?" Look at PAP and close your eyes and think...Are they showing a lack of thought process ? The answer is no because whatever they shoved down our throats had been thought through thoroughly. There are ways to get by them instead of speaking up against nail clipping at MRT or resorting to carrying umbrella as one of your previous post suggested. My apology if you find this post condescending.


Free from hating is the first step.

Buddhism teaches there are 4 sublime states of mind...

Loving-kindness (metta)
Compassion (karuna)
Sympathetic Joy (mudita)
Equanimity (upekkha)

These four attitudes are said to be excellent or sublime because they are the right or ideal way of conduct towards living beings. They provide, in fact, the answer to all situations arising from social contact. They are the great removers of tension, the great peace-makers in social conflict, and the great healers of wounds suffered in the struggle of existence. They level social barriers, build harmonious communities, awaken slumbering magnanimity long forgotten, revive joy and hope long abandoned, and promote human brotherhood against the forces of egotism. A mind that has attained to that boundlessness of these four sublime attitudes will not harbour any national, racial, religious or class hatred.


But of course, these are just theories since we all are embodiments of imperfections that make us all human.:p

 

[jw5]

It is not a lack of thought process but the age old question of "could I get away with this ?" Look at PAP and close your eyes and think...Are they showing a lack of thought process ? The answer is no because whatever they shoved down our throats had been thought through thoroughly. There are ways to get by them instead of speaking up against nail clipping at MRT or resorting to carrying umbrella as one of your previous post suggested. My apology if you find this post condescending.


Free from hating is the first step.

First part of your post:
Of course the pap have thought through the process very thoroughly. Otherwise they would be making 400K each and not 2 million, would they not? They would be getting brickbats and criticism from all over the world and not praises, would they not?
Oh, but they have gone through the thought process very carefully. And that goes for most if not all who have signed up.

As for the point about nail clipping and umbrella. That has little to do with the pappies. It's to do with social justice and righting wrongs. You may be surprised that these people who cut their nails on public transport and cut queues are the same people who stand aside and smile and bow when their mps walk by. It's about showing them that right and wrong exist no matter who you deal with and where you are.

Second part of your post about being free from hate and buddhist teachings:
Agree including the part about human imperfections.
I probably have more to learn than most.

 

[boundThunter]

We all have much to learn but you mustn't take it upon yourself to deliver social justice and righting wrongs.

You really have some thought provoking posts, btw.

 

[silverfox@]

What you said is very cool. But I don't understand one thing, why would the deep thinker bear a grudge? I think bearing a grudge is a personality trait and has little to do with whether or not the person thinks deeply. Of course a deep thinker is more likely to bear a grudge, but many petty people don't think. They feel the grudge.

People who think very deep, finding meanings within words or meanings within meanings, they will tend to bear grudges more often than a simple thinker.

 

[eatshitndie]

I had an argument with someone and claimed that he showed a lack of thought process.
He was very upset by this, but he could not articulate clearly why he was upset.
Of course, I knew what I mean by that statement, but I wasn't going to explain to him, so we left the situation at that unresolved and angry state.

Can I ask the following:

1. Do you understand what I meant by "a lack of thought process"? Can you explain it?

2. Does it imply a lack of intelligence? If not, what does it imply?

I'll explain my views when I receive some answers/comments. Thanks for replying.

it takes a lack of thought process to come up with such a lame phrase. you're just being a nitwit trying to come across as a "thinker".

 

[scroobal]

Deflecting the issues is another form of insecurity. Repeating well worn phrases like "entitled to your own analysis and comments" does not help further the thread that you started or your own insecurity.

One need to be accurate or perfect. Your constant need for reinforcement, encouragement and validation is now more or less and addiction.

I remember your thread on corruption and the views you sought. You do realise that if you persevere eventually you can pieces together tidbit here and there that validates your thoughts. With forummer Queen, you probably can get it at one go.

As someone pointed out - you are hoping to pass off as a thinker by default. Here is a tip - the world does not revolve around you. You got to adapt and live with your limitations. Getting people in this forum to constantly provide feedback so that you pick and choose a patchwork of ideal comments to suit your desired persona is quite interesting.

Hahaha, well said.
You are of course entitled to your own analysis and comments, as we both know being "veterans" of forums, in particular this one.

And welcome back by the way.
You were noticeably absent on the day Sumiko got married, until today.

 

[krafty]

hey,scrooby,did you cry in your pillow when sumiko get married?:p

 

[scroobal]

In fact I did, with joy of course. Hopefully the strumpet will start writing some sane things. Of course, everyone is waiting with bated breath what the the chap is going to do besides coaching chess in schools. With her contacts, it will be matter of time.

hey,scrooby,did you cry in your pillow when sumiko get married?:p

 

[krafty]

aiyah, dun say like that lah! wish her and her chessman well!

In fact I did, with joy of course. Hopefully the strumpet will start writing some sane things. Of course, everyone is waiting with bated breath what the the chap is going to do besides coaching chess in schools. With her contacts, it will be matter of time.

 

[silverfox@]

Deflecting the issues is another form of insecurity. Repeating well worn phrases like "entitled to your own analysis and comments" does not help further the thread that you started or your own insecurity.

As someone pointed out - you are hoping to pass off as a thinker by default. Here is a tip - the world does not revolve around you. You got to adapt and live with your limitations. Getting people in this forum to constantly provide feedback so that you pick and choose a patchwork of ideal comments to suit your desired persona is quite interesting.

Ahhhh, this is a deep thinker, confirmed no lack of thoughts:p

On the contrary,
I find that jw5 has been creating lots of threads that people experienced or meet in everyday life. At least he doesn't pick out stomp topics for discussion to be discussed here. Instead he brings in what he seen, did or heard in real life over into this forum for discussion. (Which is more tough, imagine 365 days finding topics from all walks of life with no youtubes or videos) Whether the thread grows is another thing, but I think it got people to participate or some would say seek attention (At least he got your attention)

50% of the time he could be seeking feedback but I think 50% of the time he has answers but just wanted to see what are the different kind of answers others can give.

 

[scroobal]

There is no doubt that he is one of the most ardent and thoughtful contributors. This forum benefits from the likes of him. The comments are more to address a personal problem. He is getting into this cycle more often. I sense that he is getting rather edgy . Possibly a consequence of age and the claustrophobic nature of Singapore.

One advice is never start second guessing onceself once you start working. Its leads to indecisiveness and constant need to validate the little that one decides. Accept that not all decisions will be right and no all decisions will be popular. Only worry when the numbers of decisons that go wrong start creeping up. Learn from your mistakes to avoid repeating them.

It affects us all. I tend to get edgy over people who cut queue, show little consideration to others and tend to stomp on the little people. There are days when I have to restrain myself and others.

Ahhhh, this is a deep thinker, confirmed no lack of thoughts:p

On the contrary,
I find that jw5 has been creating lots of threads that people experienced or meet in everyday life. At least he doesn't pick out stomp topics for discussion to be discussed here. Instead he brings in what he seen, did or heard in real life over into this forum for discussion. (Which is more tough, imagine 365 days finding topics from all walks of life with no youtubes or videos) Whether the thread grows is another thing, but I think it got people to participate or some would say seek attention (At least he got your attention)

50% of the time he could be seeking feedback but I think 50% of the time he has answers but just wanted to see what are the different kind of answers others can give.

 

[silverfox@]

There is no doubt that he is one of the most ardent and thoughtful contributors. This forum benefits from the likes of him. The comments are more to address a personal problem. He is getting into this cycle more often. I sense that he is getting rather edgy . Possibly a consequence of age and the claustrophobic nature of Singapore.

One advice is never start second guessing onceself once you start working. Its leads to indecisiveness and constant need to validate the little that one decides. Accept that not all decisions will be right and no all decisions will be popular. Only worry when the numbers of decisons that go wrong start creeping up. Learn from your mistakes to avoid repeating them.

It affects us all. I tend to get edgy over people who cut queue, show little consideration to others and tend to stomp on the little people. There are days when I have to restrain myself and others.

Personal problem I am not sure, but I did try to think deep enough when I read this topic.:p

I think someone mentioned earlier on frustrations with the aged,
which I have always thought that why are old people cutting queue, showing little consideration when paying for goods by slowly digging up coins from their bags or being naggy. Before that I really got frustrated with these people till my parents became like that. :p That's when my mum told me, they are getting old, so must be tolerant to the old. It's not what they want, but their brains cannot function as fast as they want as before.

That's when I start to realise I will grow old and be like them one day.

We may be at doubts with ourselves at times. Try talking to people and hearing their views may not be a bad thing and sometimes it may make them do things a bit more differently or better in future.

 

[SneeringTree]

As someone pointed out - you are hoping to pass off as a thinker by default. Here is a tip - the world does not revolve around you. You got to adapt and live with your limitations. Getting people in this forum to constantly provide feedback so that you pick and choose a patchwork of ideal comments to suit your desired persona is quite interesting.

Trust you to articulate what others (it can't be just me and you!) have noticed about this jw5.

The constant holding back of full background of his posts ("until more comments and feedback is contibuted by other forummers") is either a reflection of his need to see his thread thriving (most childish) or his need to consider all perspectives to moderate his next views about the issue (most scary and pathological!). Maybe there are other reasons but I have not seen anyone behaved in this manner whether in cyberspace or in real life.

The constant respecting each other views is a fine virtue but not when it seems forced and spoken like someone who feels that he needs to respect all views in order for himself to be respected.

The constant drivelling and analyses of (what to many people seem to be) inconsequential issues is abit worrying too.

My advice to jw5 is that you don't have to belabour to be smart in a sea of Sammyboy mediocrity.

 

[bodycells]

My advice to jw5 is that you don't have to belabour to be smart in a sea of Sammyboy mediocrity.

Being smart in a sea of dumb posts is a waste of effort. To gain respect, posts something useful for others. There are many likegiving tips to get out of sinkapore. health tips. or photos.

Anyway, why care so much about respect and acknowledagment of others, just live your life, who cares.

 

[krafty]

ya, i agree. In corporate office politics, it is normal to interpret meanings within words. I dislike this kind of things and that's why decided to get away from corporate life. I prefer simple and straight forward kind of environment. Some pple think it's smart to insinuate within words, I think it's dumb!

People who think very deep, finding meanings within words or meanings within meanings, they will tend to bear grudges more often than a simple thinker.

 

[scroobal]

Yes, agree on all counts. To sum it up for the benefit of others
1) Pick a mundane everyday encounter of his
2) Ask an opinion while holding back his own views
3) Pay compliments to all who answer
4) Deflect comments and questions that impinge on his character or that is contrary to his view
5) Find the lowest common denominator and if you persevere, there will always be one and then latch on to it.
6) Wah Lah! - his thoughts are indeed the ideal position.

His operating motto in life is to avoid confrontation or avoid discussing the issue that himself has raised with the frequent retort - "You are entitled to your opinion"

Imagine starting on a thread implying that his insult is high end, cannot be understood by the common man who was baffled, bamboozled and probably stunned by his comment.

Trust you to articulate what others (it can't be just me and you!) have noticed about this jw5.

The constant holding back of full background of his posts ("until more comments and feedback is contibuted by other forummers") is either a reflection of his need to see his thread thriving (most childish) or his need to consider all perspectives to moderate his next views about the issue (most scary and pathological!). Maybe there are other reasons but I have not seen anyone behaved in this manner whether in cyberspace or in real life.

The constant respecting each other views is a fine virtue but not when it seems forced and spoken like someone who feels that he needs to respect all views in order for himself to be respected.

The constant drivelling and analyses of (what to many people seem to be) inconsequential issues is abit worrying too.

My advice to jw5 is that you don't have to belabour to be smart in a sea of Sammyboy mediocrity.

 

[scroobal]

He is just showing the markers for decent discussion to emerge and some good quality debating to occur. If we all stop caring, nothing positive will occur.

By now you must have noticed that there indeed some good posts with quite decent discussions and most participate in the right spirit with contributions coming from all walks of life.

Just a reminder and in this case to a good and valued forummer whose problem has recently become quite acute.

Being smart in a sea of dumb posts is a waste of effort. To gain respect, posts something useful for others. There are many likegiving tips to get out of sinkapore. health tips. or photos.

Anyway, why care so much about respect and acknowledagment of others, just live your life, who cares.

 

[middaydog]

_ he is getting rather edgy . Possibly a consequence of age_

Yah loor, the other day he scolded me for talking cok

 

[jw5]

I accept these comments and criticisms, which I take as constructive in nature and are in the form of proper sentences with no vulgarities strewn in.
At least I can learn something and make improvements. Even if I don't, can use for future post reference and consideration.

It's a good thing all the posts in this thread were not in the form of pictures of faeces, caricatures of animals or humans, or vulgarities with insults like imbecile, retarded or moron liberally thrown in. These are the posts which should not be acceptable in any forum.