72% Serangoon Gdn Against PAPee Now!

[makapaaa]

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR>But see how the 154th prayed down the residents anger!

Oct 5, 2008
FOREIGN WORKERS' DORM IN SERANGOON GARDENS
</TR><!-- headline one : start --><TR>MP makes house visits to allay fears
</TR><!-- headline one : end --><!-- Author --><TR><TD class="padlrt8 georgia11 darkgrey bold" colSpan=2>By Gracia Chiang
</TD></TR><!-- show image if available --></TBODY></TABLE>




<!-- START OF : div id="storytext"--><!-- more than 4 paragraphs -->Seeking to soothe ruffled feathers, Aljunied GRC MP Lim Hwee Hua spent almost three hours going door to door in Serangoon Gardens yesterday.
She took pains to assure residents that measures being taken will address their concerns over a foreign workers' dormitory to be sited there.
<TABLE width=200 align=left valign="top"><TBODY><TR><TD class=padr8><!-- Vodcast --><!-- Background Story -->RELATED LINKS
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THE SUNDAY TIMES STRAW POLL
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</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Accompanied by a dozen grassroots volunteers, she visited 26 houses along Burghley Drive, where the dormitory - a former school - will be sited.
On Friday, the Government said that plans for a dormitory in the private estate will proceed despite protests by some residents, which also led to them signing a petition.
But the Government said that steps will also be taken to minimise disruptions in the area.
At each house yesterday, Mrs Lim showed residents a map detailing how the road access to Burghley Drive would be sealed off, and that access can be made only from a new road from Ang Mo Kio Avenue 1, a long walk from the estate.
She also stressed that the workers will not be from the construction sector but from the manufacturing and service industries. There will also be a mix of male and female occupants.
Among the residents who were relieved to hear this was retiree Hoo Piew Seng, 68. 'If there's a mix of male and female, then it's okay. Our concern was that 1,000 men from different backgrounds would be here,' he said.
A Sunday Times straw poll yesterday of 100 Serangoon Gardens residents found that these measures had mollified many.
While 72 per cent polled said they were against the dormitory initially, 54 per cent said the measures have addressed their security concerns to some extent.
Still, more than half remained uncomfortable with the idea of a dormitory there. Retiree Julien Ng, 73, said: 'We are sad that after all our pleas, we still can't convince the Government not to have the dormitory here.'
Most residents said they would adopt a wait-and-see approach for now, making it clear that they wanted security to be beefed up.
Legal counsel Jessie Teo, 39, was still worried that workers might find their way to the parks even though access has been restricted.
Mrs Lim assured residents that she would 'hold the operator responsible' and monitor the situation 'like a hawk'. There will be numbers to call should residents want to report any mischief.
She told reporters: 'The reactions are quite mixed...I don't expect anyone to be happy but quite a number noted that there were revisions.'
Some 10,000 newsletters detailing the steps taken have been distributed to residents. Mrs Lim will meet residents living near the new Ang Mo Kio access road today.
[email protected]
Additional reporting by Shuli Sudderuddin and Debbie Yong

We polled 100 Serangoon Gardens
residents yesterday​

Were
you for or
against the
dormitory?
Do you think the
compromises are
enough?
Were you surprised
the Government
decided to still site
the dorm there?
Are you happy
with the
Government’s
decision?
Did you sign
the petition?​

THE SUNDAY TIMES ​

​

​

​

STRAW POLL​

56% 44%
8%​

For​

20%​

Neutral
Have to wait
and see
Neutral​

Yes No​

72%​

Against​

20%
35%
54%
13%
33%
65%
54%​

26%

 

[silverfox@]

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR>But see how the 154th prayed down the residents anger!

Oct 5, 2008
FOREIGN WORKERS' DORM IN SERANGOON GARDENS
</TR><!-- headline one : start --><TR>MP makes house visits to allay fears
</TR><!-- headline one : end --><!-- Author --><TR><TD class="padlrt8 georgia11 darkgrey bold" colSpan=2>By Gracia Chiang
</TD></TR><!-- show image if available --></TBODY></TABLE>




<!-- START OF : div id="storytext"--><!-- more than 4 paragraphs -->Seeking to soothe ruffled feathers, Aljunied GRC MP Lim Hwee Hua spent almost three hours going door to door in Serangoon Gardens yesterday.
She took pains to assure residents that measures being taken will address their concerns over a foreign workers' dormitory to be sited there.
<TABLE width=200 align=left valign="top"><TBODY><TR><TD class=padr8><!-- Vodcast --><!-- Background Story -->RELATED LINKS
<!-- Audio --><!-- Video --><!-- PDF -->

THE SUNDAY TIMES STRAW POLL
<!-- Photo Gallery -->
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Accompanied by a dozen grassroots volunteers, she visited 26 houses along Burghley Drive, where the dormitory - a former school - will be sited.
On Friday, the Government said that plans for a dormitory in the private estate will proceed despite protests by some residents, which also led to them signing a petition.
But the Government said that steps will also be taken to minimise disruptions in the area.
At each house yesterday, Mrs Lim showed residents a map detailing how the road access to Burghley Drive would be sealed off, and that access can be made only from a new road from Ang Mo Kio Avenue 1, a long walk from the estate.
She also stressed that the workers will not be from the construction sector but from the manufacturing and service industries. There will also be a mix of male and female occupants.
Among the residents who were relieved to hear this was retiree Hoo Piew Seng, 68. 'If there's a mix of male and female, then it's okay. Our concern was that 1,000 men from different backgrounds would be here,' he said.
A Sunday Times straw poll yesterday of 100 Serangoon Gardens residents found that these measures had mollified many.
While 72 per cent polled said they were against the dormitory initially, 54 per cent said the measures have addressed their security concerns to some extent.
Still, more than half remained uncomfortable with the idea of a dormitory there. Retiree Julien Ng, 73, said: 'We are sad that after all our pleas, we still can't convince the Government not to have the dormitory here.'
Most residents said they would adopt a wait-and-see approach for now, making it clear that they wanted security to be beefed up.
Legal counsel Jessie Teo, 39, was still worried that workers might find their way to the parks even though access has been restricted.
Mrs Lim assured residents that she would 'hold the operator responsible' and monitor the situation 'like a hawk'. There will be numbers to call should residents want to report any mischief.
She told reporters: 'The reactions are quite mixed...I don't expect anyone to be happy but quite a number noted that there were revisions.'
Some 10,000 newsletters detailing the steps taken have been distributed to residents. Mrs Lim will meet residents living near the new Ang Mo Kio access road today.

If you ask the same 100 people who polled would they prefer the foreign workers to be housed in queenstown, bedok or toa payoh instead of serangoon gardens, you would get a 100% Yes.

Human nature. :o

 

[Man in the streets]

Hwee Hua is a joke. Where is georgy boy who blogs ?

so what if the new road to SGT is by AMK 1.

the bangalas will still go to the park near the church, hang around at chomp homp, and crowd the NTUC, and scare away customers at night.
The pubs opposite the bus-stop will kaput.

at night, they wear sarong and sit around the circle area and the two hawker ctes

Serangoon garden cowboy town is too small for these people.

the residents are fucked deep by MBT.
those who are very familiar like me with this place will understand how the residents feel. KNN, vote Hwee Hua also no use.

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR>But see how the 154th prayed down the residents anger!

Oct 5, 2008
FOREIGN WORKERS' DORM IN SERANGOON GARDENS
</TR><!-- headline one : start --><TR>MP makes house visits to allay fears
</TR><!-- headline one : end --><!-- Author --><TR><TD class="padlrt8 georgia11 darkgrey bold" colSpan=2>By Gracia Chiang
</TD></TR><!-- show image if available --></TBODY></TABLE>




<!-- START OF : div id="storytext"--><!-- more than 4 paragraphs -->Seeking to soothe ruffled feathers, Aljunied GRC MP Lim Hwee Hua spent almost three hours going door to door in Serangoon Gardens yesterday.
She took pains to assure residents that measures being taken will address their concerns over a foreign workers' dormitory to be sited there.
<TABLE width=200 align=left valign="top"><TBODY><TR><TD class=padr8><!-- Vodcast --><!-- Background Story -->RELATED LINKS
<!-- Audio --><!-- Video --><!-- PDF -->

THE SUNDAY TIMES STRAW POLL
<!-- Photo Gallery -->
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Accompanied by a dozen grassroots volunteers, she visited 26 houses along Burghley Drive, where the dormitory - a former school - will be sited.
On Friday, the Government said that plans for a dormitory in the private estate will proceed despite protests by some residents, which also led to them signing a petition.
But the Government said that steps will also be taken to minimise disruptions in the area.
At each house yesterday, Mrs Lim showed residents a map detailing how the road access to Burghley Drive would be sealed off, and that access can be made only from a new road from Ang Mo Kio Avenue 1, a long walk from the estate.
She also stressed that the workers will not be from the construction sector but from the manufacturing and service industries. There will also be a mix of male and female occupants.
Among the residents who were relieved to hear this was retiree Hoo Piew Seng, 68. 'If there's a mix of male and female, then it's okay. Our concern was that 1,000 men from different backgrounds would be here,' he said.
A Sunday Times straw poll yesterday of 100 Serangoon Gardens residents found that these measures had mollified many.
While 72 per cent polled said they were against the dormitory initially, 54 per cent said the measures have addressed their security concerns to some extent.
Still, more than half remained uncomfortable with the idea of a dormitory there. Retiree Julien Ng, 73, said: 'We are sad that after all our pleas, we still can't convince the Government not to have the dormitory here.'
Most residents said they would adopt a wait-and-see approach for now, making it clear that they wanted security to be beefed up.
Legal counsel Jessie Teo, 39, was still worried that workers might find their way to the parks even though access has been restricted.
Mrs Lim assured residents that she would 'hold the operator responsible' and monitor the situation 'like a hawk'. There will be numbers to call should residents want to report any mischief.
She told reporters: 'The reactions are quite mixed...I don't expect anyone to be happy but quite a number noted that there were revisions.'
Some 10,000 newsletters detailing the steps taken have been distributed to residents. Mrs Lim will meet residents living near the new Ang Mo Kio access road today.
[email protected]
Additional reporting by Shuli Sudderuddin and Debbie Yong

We polled 100 Serangoon Gardens
residents yesterday​

Were
you for or
against the
dormitory?
Do you think the
compromises are
enough?
Were you surprised
the Government
decided to still site
the dorm there?
Are you happy
with the
Government’s
decision?
Did you sign
the petition?​

THE SUNDAY TIMES ​

​

​

​

STRAW POLL​

56% 44%
8%​

For​

20%​

Neutral
Have to wait
and see
Neutral​

Yes No​

72%​

Against​

20%
35%
54%
13%
33%
65%
54%​

26%

 

[wizard]

I tot is 66% agreed and 33% disagreed and 1 % dun know

 

[makapaaa]

Hwee Hua is a joke. Where is georgy boy who blogs ?

Yo! *rub eyes*​

 

[myjohnson]

One month before the next election, they will move them out. Result of PAP votes? 90 percent! Wayang in top form.

 

[dysentry]

Just compare the prices of Rowell Rd vs Selegie Rd flats, easily 60k less.

 

[Manchu]

Serangoon MP storytelling residents again

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR>Oct 5, 2008

FOREIGN WORKERS' DORM IN SERANGOON GARDENS
</TR><!-- headline one : start --><TR>MP makes house visits to allay fears
</TR><!-- headline one : end --><!-- Author --><TR><TD class="padlrt8 georgia11 darkgrey bold" colSpan=2>By Gracia Chiang
</TD></TR><!-- show image if available --></TBODY></TABLE>




<!-- START OF : div id="storytext"--><!-- more than 4 paragraphs -->Seeking to soothe ruffled feathers, Aljunied GRC MP Lim Hwee Hua spent almost three hours going door to door in Serangoon Gardens yesterday. (Sorry my residents do expect MORE OF THE SAME)
She took pains to assure residents that measures being taken will address their concerns over a foreign workers' dormitory to be sited there.
<TABLE width=200 align=left valign="top"><TBODY><TR><TD class=padr8><!-- Vodcast --><!-- Background Story -->RELATED LINKS
<!-- Audio --><!-- Video --><!-- PDF -->

THE SUNDAY TIMES STRAW POLL
<!-- Photo Gallery -->
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Accompanied by a dozen (bootlickers, balls carriers, blind hoots) grassroots volunteers, she visited 26 houses along Burghley Drive, where the dormitory - a former school - will be sited.
On Friday, the Government said that plans for a dormitory in the private estate will proceed despite protests by some residents, which also led to them signing a petition. (Government knows best what is good for Singapore)
But the Government said that steps will also be taken to minimise disruptions in the area. (Not Happy, then relocate somewhere else. THAT'S YOUR PROBLEM)At each house yesterday, Mrs Lim showed residents a map detailing how the road access to Burghley Drive would be sealed off, and that access can be made only from a new road from Ang Mo Kio Avenue 1, a long walk from the estate.
She also stressed that the workers will not be from the construction sector but from the manufacturing and service industries. There will also be a mix of male and female occupants. (Ah! Female occupants, so be prepared that female occupants may offer massage services to supplement their income)Among the residents who were relieved to hear this was retiree (suffering from serious dementia) Hoo Piew Seng, 68. 'If there's a mix of male and female, then it's okay. Our concern was that 1,000 men from different backgrounds would be here,' he said.
A Sunday Times straw poll yesterday of 100 PAP Serangoon Gardens residents found that these measures had mollified many.
While 72 per cent polled said they were against the dormitory initially, 54 per cent said the measures have addressed their security concerns to some extent.
Still, more than half remained uncomfortable with the idea of a dormitory there. Retiree Julien Ng, 73, said: 'We are sad that after all our pleas (to our useless MP), we still can't convince the Government not to have the dormitory here.'
Most residents said they would adopt a wait-and-see approach for now, making it clear that they wanted security to be beefed up.
Legal counsel Jessie Teo, 39, was still worried that workers might find their way to the parks even though access has been restricted.
Mrs Lim assured residents that she would 'hold the operator responsible' and monitor the situation 'like a hawk'. There will be numbers to call should residents want to report any mischief.
She told reporters: 'The reactions are quite mixed...I don't expect anyone to be happy but quite a number noted that there were revisions.' (Not Happy, then next election just don't vote PAP)Some 10,000 newsletters detailing the steps taken have been distributed to residents. Mrs Lim will meet residents living near the new Ang Mo Kio access road today.
[email protected]
Additional reporting by Shuli Sudderuddin and Debbie Yong

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[Neh_Neh_Pok]

Huh? I thought majority of them already agreed with the Pees? Now change their minds again?

 

[ahbengsong]

Mrs Lim assured residents that she would 'hold the operator responsible' and monitor the situation 'like a hawk'. There will be numbers to call should residents want to report any mischief.[unquote]

Typical pap attitude..... somebody is responsible but not the pap....

 

[Manchu]

Mrs Lim assured residents that she would 'hold the operator responsible' and monitor the situation 'like a hawk'. There will be numbers to call should residents want to report any mischief.[unquote]

Typical pap attitude..... somebody is responsible but not the pap....

It's MORE OF THE SAME. Heads will roll if something goes wrong, but never those of PAP.

 

[silverfox@]

I tot is 66% agreed and 33% disagreed and 1 % dun know

Let me analyse to you why this straw poll is basically a farce. Or the people who were polled don't understand what they were polled on.

1)Were you FOR or AGAINST the Dormitory?
8% FOR
20% NEUTRAL
72% AGAINST

2)Did you sign the petition?
56% YES
44% NO

3)Were you surprised the Government decided to still site the dorm there?
35% YES
65% NO

4)Are you happy with the Government’s decision?
20% YES
26% NEUTRAL
54% NO

5)Do you think the compromises are enough?
54% YES
13% HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE
33% NO

If 54% are not happy with the government's decision, why is there 54% agreeing that the compromises are enough. It should be at least 54% who would think that the compromises are not enough, instead its only 33%.

Either the questions are not phrased correctly or they interviewed a bunch of people who do not know what they are questioned about. :p

 

[GoldenBellShield]

Was Serangoon gardens part of Macpheson where Dr. Chee fought Mathaias Yao back in the 1997 general election?

 

[Manchu]

If 54% are not happy with the government's decision, why is there 54% agreeing that the compromises are enough. It should be at least 54% who would think that the compromises are not enough, instead its only 33%.

Either the questions are not phrased correctly or they interviewed a bunch of people who do not know what they are questioned about. :p

PROOF that even for a simple thing like straw poll , 154th SHIT TIMES still struggle to make it right !

 

[silverfox@]

PROOF that even for a simple thing like straw poll , 154th SHIT TIMES still struggle to make it right !

Either the Straits time journalist who did that poll is shitty or some who answered the poll were shitty.
:p

 

[twinseeker]

Was Serangoon gardens part of Macpheson where Dr. Chee fought Mathaias Yao back in the 1997 general election?

I think there was a time when sgoon gdn was a single ward. Later, fell under Thomson-Braddell GRC, then later Marine Parade GRC, and then lately Aljunied GRC.

Not sure if there was ever any contenders along the time line, except for the recent contest from WP (with the closest margin, resulting in Sylvia Lim being the NCMP)

 

[makapaaa]

PROOF that even for a simple thing like straw poll , 154th SHIT TIMES still struggle to make it right !

Or they're having difficulty making the results show that 66% support the Papayas while making them look "realistic".

 

[DerekLeung]

I think there was a time when sgoon gdn was a single ward. Later, fell under Thomson-Braddell GRC, then later Marine Parade GRC, and then lately Aljunied GRC.

Not sure if there was ever any contenders along the time line, except for the recent contest from WP (with the closest margin, resulting in Sylvia Lim being the NCMP)

Serangoon Gardens is a beautiful place !

Should have an independent mayor to run it !

Don't let Sembcorp even to collect it's rubbish !

 

[twinseeker]

Serangoon Gardens is a beautiful place !

Should have an independent mayor to run it !

Don't let Sembcorp even to collect it's rubbish !

This island is so small, its a big joke to have GRC in the 1st place. We got more ministers than other countries bigger & packed with more people than us.

Most other countries have only 1 PM + 1 or sometimes, 2 DPM, and they manage to run a pretty good show. Here, we have 1 PM, 2 DPM, 1 SM, 1 MM. All that for just a tiny island of 4.8million people.

If it takes 5 executive level ministers to manage a tiny island like this, then when our population increase to 6.5million, we will need at least 7 or 8 executive level ministers > 1 PM, 2 DPM, 1 SM, 1 DSM, 1 MM, 1 DMM

 

[DIVISION1]

72% having a difference of opinion with the PAP does not represent 72% opposing the PAP. That would be a hyperbole. People in daily life have differences of opinion with one another but vitriolic hate is usually rare, except perhaps in this forum. But this forum perhaps serves the purpose of relieving pent up stress and some monikers seek mental reempowerment from the powerlessness to manage their own life in the real world. This is alright, so long as seditious and social damaging acts are not enacted in the real physical domain.