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Chitchat 69 Sinkie Moslems Scammed By m&d Director And Moslem Religious Teacher In Bogus Mecca Trip!

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SINGAPORE - A man is accused of conning 69 people of more than $98,000 in a scam involving discounted haj tours that did not exist.

The alleged victims were each cheated of between $400 and $1,950.

Mohd Ramlee Ab Samad, who used to be a director at a firm known as Cosmos Airfreight,
is also accused of duping at least 15 others into handing over their passports by using a similar ruse.


The 60-year-old Singaporean, who is said to have committed the bulk of his offences in August 2018, was charged on Monday (Aug 3) with 85 counts of cheating.

In a statement on Sunday, police said they had received a call on Aug 15, 2018, stating that 80 people who had paid for a haj tour did not receive confirmation for their flight and visa details.

Officers arrested Ramlee on Oct 4 that year over his suspected involvement in the scam.

In the statement, police said: "Investigations uncovered evidence that the man had deceived the victims into handing over their passports and monies amounting to more than $98,000 with the false promise of a haj trip."

According to court documents, the alleged victims handed over their money and passports to a man identified as Fahrorazi Sohoi, now 49, who ran a local tour agency.

Fahrorazi, who was a well-known Singaporean religious teacher,
was charged in August 2018 with one count of cheating.

He was then accused of duping a man into paying him $1,550 to perform a "VIP haj" at the invitation of the Saudi Embassy.

Fahrorazi has since been given a discharge not amounting to an acquittal on this charge. This means he can be prosecuted again if new evidence were to surface.

The Islamic Religious Council of Singapore (Muis) had earlier said that it had no comment on Fahrorazi's case as it was still under investigation.

Court documents did not reveal details about his alleged roles in Ramlee's charges on Monday.

The police have advised members of the public who wish to perform the haj to make inquiries on haj registration with Muis.

Muslims worldwide travel to Saudi Arabia to perform the annual haj pilgrimage.

The haj, one of the five pillars of Islam and a must for able-bodied Muslims at least once in their lifetime, is one of the world's largest religious gatherings.

Ramlee's bail was set at $30,000 on Monday and his case has been adjourned to Aug 31.

If convicted of duping somebody into handing over a passport, he can be jailed for up to three years and fined for each charge.

And if convicted of cheating a person of cash, he can be jailed for up to 10 years and fined for each charge.

https://www.straitstimes.com/singap...ted-80-people-of-nearly-100k-in-haj-tour-scam
 
Let me repeat. Religion is for the weak-minded who need a daddy figure to give them direction and purpose. Religious teachers know their flock is weak-minded and gullible, can be easily conned and manipulated.
 
Let me repeat. Religion is for the weak-minded who need a daddy figure to give them direction and purpose. Religious teachers know their flock is weak-minded and gullible, can be easily conned and manipulated.

People can be conned by any religion when they believe that they need to do good deeds and be religiously pious in order to enter heaven. That's the foundation of nearly every religious faith. Hence, there is no way of putting an end to them being conned.
 
I thought Muslims do not cheat on matters related to religion? Would God still give him 72 virgins?
 
People can be conned by any religion when they believe that they need to do good deeds and be religiously pious in order to enter heaven. That's the foundation of nearly every religious faith. Hence, there is no way of putting an end to them being conned.
Exactly, christian and catholics can be conned by their pastors and priests too. Buddhists, hindus etc as well. Of course you would argue yours is different, because no need good deed is needed, blah blah.
 
Exactly, christian and catholics can be conned by their pastors and priests too.

Yes they can, and they have been conned in the past through Crusades, where popes offered salvation for religious warfare. While I support taking back Christian lands stolen by moslems, offering salvation for military aid is plainly not Christian teachings. Period.

Of course you would argue yours is different, because no need good deed is needed, blah blah.

Mine is different, and no good deed is needed in exchange for salvation.

If religion offered salvation in exchange for good deeds, cynics say that followers can be scammed.

If religion offered salvation free without need to exchange for money or good deeds, cynics sneer and say that it's either too good to be true, or it's a green light to commit all kinds of evil and sin and get away with it.

There's no pleasing cynics.
 
I fucking knew it!

Same as yours lah.

You want to do your own thing, live by your own rules and get to enjoy your own version of the afterlife. No need to do specific shit to gain paradise.
 
Same as yours lah.

You want to do your own thing, live by your own rules and get to enjoy your own version of the afterlife. No need to do specific shit to gain paradise.
Paradise (heaven) and hell are on earth. There is no reward or punishment in the afterlife. Only reflection and reassessment of the life lived.
 
Paradise (heaven) and hell are on earth. There is no reward or punishment in the afterlife. Only reflection and reassessment of the life lived.

I believe that in our quest for paradise, there's no need to make life on earth a living hell. God has plans to bless us all.
 
I believe that in our quest for paradise, there's no need to make life on earth a living hell. God has plans to bless us all.
That plan was laid before our life even started. Often we are privy to this plan, and a particular lifetime's objective. God, supreme being(s), consciousness, energy, elders and so forth. Plenty of names to refer to the same thing. Some even call "him" Odin, Zeus.
 
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