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[Baimi]

This is another scenario. If you buy 12 system permutations for a number, lets say the number 1713 which I striked. It will be $12 for system to get $60 consolation. But I bought $5 ibets and got $30. Would it be better if I had bet system and change to ibets
to $5 on two tickets (will get $60), leaving the extra $2 for another ibet ticket and some extra money.

Hey, i did a stimulation on i-bet and system bet
i-bet punt $12, $1 pay $6 so i got $720 (consolation prize)
system bet $1 (total also $12) i got only $600
so better to buy i-bet right?
but..SG pools is not stupid.
Only in consolation prize you get some gains
but not other prizes
E.g. if you strike 3rd prize $1 Big you have $490
if i-bet $1 you have $40
so if you punt i-bet $12 you got only $480
so it is better you punt system bet $1
you will lose out in starter prize also
but not all permutations you will lose out.
if you punt AABB(6 permutations) no matter which type of bets you punt
price money still the same.
In 12 permutations, if you want to punt more than $10
is it better that you punt System bet and not I-bet
System bet $1($12) starter prize $250
I-bet $12 you got only (12 x $20) $240.
Try a stimulation at the link below:
http://www.singaporepools.com.sg/en/lottery/4d_calculator.html

 

[0939]

From what I have checked. It is better to buy ibets $12 than $1 system. You gain $12 on consolation and you lose $8 up to $10 for other prizes. After all it is easier to strike on consolation.
Baimi, did you hit on my toto pairing for today?

 

[RK85]

The odds for hitting consol. & starter should be the same.

SP not stupid, they purposely calculate payouts this way. There is no way to know if u will hit starter or consol.

From what I have checked. It is better to buy ibets $12 than $1 system. You gain $12 on consolation and you lose $8 up to $10 for other prizes. After all it is easier to strike on consolation.
Baimi, did you hit on my toto pairing for today?

 

[Baimi]

From what I have checked. It is better to buy ibets $12 than $1 system. You gain $12 on consolation and you lose $8 up to $10 for other prizes. After all it is easier to strike on consolation.
Baimi, did you hit on my toto pairing for today?

3rd prize and consolation prize already cut for GST purposes,
so they can't reduce the prize on consolation but give extra
$1.
Calculation is simple 12 permutations
Starter prize $250 divided by 12= $20.90cts
rounded up to $20
I-bet $1=$20, $5=$100 $12=$240
Consolation prize $60 divided by 12=$5 exactly
but this $60 was a cut prize, used to be $75
so SG pools give another $1 to make it $6
Why cut 3rd prize and Consolation?
SG pools said most punters are aiming for the top prize.
So are you aiming for consolation prize to gain the $1 extra
or higher/top prizes?
So sorry, i did not go to work so never buy,
buy from colleague.
Any way, thanks, will try $5 on the other numbers if i remember.

 

[WOOHOO]

wed 10122008
1st Prize
9474
2nd Prize
3552
3rd Prize
9038
Starter Prizes

1080 5927
4106 9876
5989 9140
6094 4593
6187 8873

Consolation Prizes

5224 8561
2965 9947
2347 8914
4054 6501
9417 0408

 

[checktoto]

Some info in addition to the results (the previous time that the winning numbers appear)

First prize:
9474 (Last appeared on 2007-09-22, draw no. 2597)

Second prize:
3552 (Last appeared on 2008-11-22, draw no. 2780)

Third prize:
9038 (Last appeared on 2005-05-21, draw no. 2231)



Top numbers since 2008 (by frequency)
3552 (5times)
4449 (5times)
1137 (4times)
4319 (4times)
8726 (4times)
More

 

[Baimi]

Damn, i keep buying 3551
next year i buy 3552

 

[checktoto]

Bro baimi,
Seems 3552 is "hot" this year.

previous winning dates for 3551:
drawno date
1759 '2002-05-15'
2100 '2004-07-18'
2623 '2007-11-21'

previous winning dates for 3552:
drawno date
2641 '2008-01-02'
2650 '2008-01-23'
2696 '2008-05-10'
2780 '2008-11-22'
2788 '2008-12-10'

 

[Baimi]

Bro baimi,
Seems 3552 is "hot" this year.

previous winning dates for 3551:
drawno date
1759 '2002-05-15'
2100 '2004-07-18'
2623 '2007-11-21'

previous winning dates for 3552:
drawno date
2641 '2008-01-02'
2650 '2008-01-23'
2696 '2008-05-10'
2780 '2008-11-22'
2788 '2008-12-10'

Hope 3552 can come out in 2009
just once, once is enough, one top prize,

 

[RK85]

Hi Sly,

I would like to offer u my suggestion to improve your predictions.

Invest in a 4d software to finetune your KMT nos. Getting 3 digits correct is the same as getting 1 digit correct or no digits correct; no win.

Some software can generate top 3d nos. With your KMT nos, you can plug in the missing no.

Wah... bluecat , you buy 3 rounds of Kumantong Numbers for all 3 sets ar..

3897 by Blacky for Magnum 4D you also buy ...

superb.. anyway congrats!

 

[Nomad]

my number for this weekend's draw
9138

 

[BlueCat]

Good Luck To All Here !
Huat Huat Huat !

 

[Baimi]

4D Result 13 Dec 09 Sat
Con:
4580 3192 7511 8522 6395
2232 1664 7011 1881 8837

Str:
1902 9830 1668 4671 3358
1087 2003 8053 2868 1626

3rd: 9573

2nd: 0766

1st: 2112

 

[0939]

The 8 numbers are

0228
1137
1156
1466 - consolation 1664 13th Dec
2556
3345
3378
7899

Another hit consolation

 

[BlueCat]

Draw No: 2789
Saturday 13 Dec 08
1st Prize 2112
2nd Prize 0766
3rd Prize 9573
Starter Prizes
1087 1626
1668 1902
2003 2868
3358 4671
8053 9830
Consolation Prizes
1664 1881
2232 3192
4580 6395
7011 7511
8522 8837

 

[checktoto]

Latest draw results and the previous time that the winning numbers appear

First prize:
2112 (Last appeared on 2007-11-14, draw no. 2620)

Second prize:
0766 (Last appeared on 2008-06-01, draw no. 2706)

Third prize:
9573 (Last appeared on 2004-09-04, draw no. 2120)

Starters:
1087 (Last appeared on 2008-11-09, draw no. 2775)
1626 (Last appeared on 2008-09-07, draw no. 2748)
1668 (Last appeared on 1999-11-27, draw no. 1409)
1902 (Last appeared on 2008-08-03, draw no. 2733)
2003 (Last appeared on 2005-07-24, draw no. 2259)
2868 (Last appeared on 2008-08-16, draw no. 2738)
3358 (Last appeared on 2007-11-04, draw no. 2616)
4671 (Last appeared on 2008-07-02, draw no. 2719)
8053 (Last appeared on 2008-05-25, draw no. 2703)
9830 (Last appeared on 2007-01-24, draw no. 2494)

Consolation:
1664 (Last appeared on 2008-10-15, draw no. 2764)
1881 (Last appeared on 2006-12-09, draw no. 2474)
2232 (Last appeared on 2007-12-12, draw no. 2632)
3192 (Last appeared on 2007-04-29, draw no. 2535)
4580 (Last appeared on 1993-05-22, draw no. 729)
6395 (Last appeared on 2007-09-29, draw no. 2600)
7011 (Last appeared on 2007-02-28, draw no. 2509)
7511 (Last appeared on 2001-04-01, draw no. 1584)
8522 (Last appeared on 2007-02-10, draw no. 2501)
8837 (Last appeared on 2005-01-15, draw no. 2177)

Top 10 numbers since 2008 (by frequency)
3552 (5 times)
4449 (5 times)
1137 (4 times)
4319 (4 times)
8726 (4 times)
9981 (4 times)
0774 (3 times)
0883 (3 times)
0935 (3 times)
1064 (3 times)

Top digits since 2008 (by frequency)
Digit "2" has appeared 1450 times
Digit "1" has appeared 1399 times
Digit "9" has appeared 1380 times
Digit "8" has appeared 1366 times
Digit "3" has appeared 1360 times
Digit "6" has appeared 1357 times
Digit "0" has appeared 1357 times
Digit "7" has appeared 1356 times
Digit "4" has appeared 1342 times
Digit "5" has appeared 1341 times

 

[WOOHOO]

sun 14122008

cons - 0458-0367-5530-0793-5756-2987-8793-5520-1341-2409

start- 8572-8081-8760-5491-6924-4976-0214-1698-1090-4697

3-6399

2-7779

1-4953

dai kay huat huat huat ah!!

 

[checktoto]

More info

First prize:
4953 (Last appeared on 2005-12-17, draw no. 2321)

Second prize:
7779 (Last appeared on 2008-07-19, draw no. 2726)

Third prize:
6399 (Last appeared on 2006-10-15, draw no. 2451)

Starters:
0214 (Last appeared on 1995-08-19, draw no. 963)
1090 (Last appeared on 2007-08-01, draw no. 2575)
1698 (Last appeared on 2008-11-12, draw no. 2776)
4697 (Last appeared on 2008-09-14, draw no. 2751)
4976 (Last appeared on 2005-11-09, draw no. 2305)
5491 (Last appeared on 2008-07-16, draw no. 2725)
6924 (Last appeared on 2006-10-08, draw no. 2448)
8081 (Last appeared on 2003-04-20, draw no. 1905)
8572 (Last appeared on 2007-12-05, draw no. 2629)
8760 (Last appeared on 2008-01-12, draw no. 2645)

Consolation:
0367 (Last appeared on 2008-12-07, draw no. 2787)
0458 (Last appeared on 2005-08-10, draw no. 2266)
0793 (Last appeared on 2004-09-25, draw no. 2129)
1341 (Last appeared on 2007-01-28, draw no. 2496)
2409 (Last appeared on 2006-06-11, draw no. 2397)
2987 (Last appeared on 2007-06-30, draw no. 2561)
5520 (Last appeared on 2008-07-06, draw no. 2721)
5530 (Last appeared on 2008-11-05, draw no. 2773)
5756 (Last appeared on 2007-04-01, draw no. 2523)
8793 (Last appeared on 2006-04-01, draw no. 2366)

Top 10 numbers since 2008 (by frequency)
3552 (5 times)
4449 (5 times)
1137 (4 times)
4319 (4 times)

 

[0939]

Update on my 8 numbers this weekend

3 draws 3 x $96 = $288
1 hit 1713 consolation $60
We are down $228

Update on 14th Dec.

6 draws 6 x 96 = $576
2nd hit 1664 consolation $ 60 total so far $120
We are down $456

So far luck no so good only consolation. We shall continue again and hope for the best coming draw

 

[BlueCat]

bro 0939,

keep going,still have two more weeks to go.