3rd batch name list coming out, includes Lawyers, high ranking army officers, bankers

[LeMans2011]

Re: 3rd batch name list coming out, includes Lawyers, high ranking army officers, ban

Para 1, Sect 376B of the Penal Code (Chap 224) states:

"Commercial sex with minor under 18

376B. (1) Any person who obtains for consideration the sexual services of a person, who is under 18 years of age, shall be punished with imprisonment for a term which may extend to 7 years, or with fine, or with both."​

Para 4 defines "sexual services" as:

"(4) In this section, “sexual services” means any sexual services involving —

(a) sexual penetration of the vagina or anus, as the case may be, of a person by a part of another person’s body (other than the penis) or by anything else; or

(b) penetration of the vagina, anus or mouth, as the case may be, of a person by a man’s penis."​

Section 377C (d) {Interpretation of sections 375 to 377B (sexual offences)} defines "sexual" as:

"(d) penetration, touching or other activity is “sexual” if —

(i) because of its nature it is sexual, whatever its circumstances or any person’s purpose in relation to it may be; or

(ii) because of its nature it may be sexual and because of its circumstances or the purpose of any person in relation to it (or both) it is sexual;"​

So the handjob or no penetration excuse is a no go.

This definition is well understood... but how to proof that the man actually did penetrate the girl??? By her words? By her pimp's words??? I am talking about the question of law which up till now i still cannot understand.

If i insist that i paid to see the girl because i want to talk to her and convince her to stop prostituting herself... why should the judge believe in her and not me?????

 

[LeMans2011]

Re: 3rd batch name list coming out, includes Lawyers, high ranking army officers, ban

To me the only VALID PROOF is when the police open the hotel door... and catch the couple in the act.. or by a camera in the room.
But this cannot happen with the same girl + 60 men unless it is a set up or a trap.

 

[LeMans2011]

Re: 3rd batch name list coming out, includes Lawyers, high ranking army officers, ban

I am "independent" alright. Just an observation that this forum is exceptionally quiet on bombing the alleged "grassroot leader" cum possible "PAP member". Actually I know the reason why.

Goh Meng Seng

The answer is simple. You have this obssessive belief that the whole forum is made up of Workers' Party supporters ready to pounce on anyone against them. You liken Workers' Party to PAP. Who else would have thought of the word WP IB other than you??

Therefore the simple answer is you are WRONG. People are neutral and respond to FACTs as they are... unlike you who reinterprete every situation to your bias perception. It is like asking an American to translate a communist doctrine... and the result is a completely twisted version.

 

[Kohliantye]

Re: 3rd batch name list coming out, includes Lawyers, high ranking army officers, ban

Not only them but their family lives may be destroyed and that also affects their kids.

This rule is out of sync with today's world where the Internet plays an important part in the lives of the people of the World.

In the law of contract, there are two or more parties.

There is an offer, counter-offer, rejection or acceptance.

If the offer is accepted then it becomes binding.

If not, then it is null and void.

That "hard-core prostitute" advertised her services and this created a response.

The respondents offered a price and she accepted thereby sealing the contract (as willing party)

She received her money for her services: no issue of "unpaid debts".

Why is she protected so vigourously by the law?

Is'nt she an accomplice? : "in furtrherance of common intention" or whatever legal eagles may call it.

If we want to appear as a clean society, then criminalise such activities once and for all. Send her and other like-minded people to jail too.

Why are so many people and their families and loved ones be made to go through unneccessary suffering.

Our parliamentarians should think of a way to deal with such an archaic law.

 

[Ramseth]

Re: 3rd batch name list coming out, includes Lawyers, high ranking army officers, ban

The answer is simple. You have this obssessive belief that the whole forum is made up of Workers' Party supporters ready to pounce on anyone against them. You liken Workers' Party to PAP. Who else would have thought of the word WP IB other than you??

Therefore the simple answer is you are WRONG. People are neutral and respond to FACTs as they are... unlike you who reinterprete every situation to your bias perception. It is like asking an American to translate a communist doctrine... and the result is a completely twisted version.

Cpt. GMS jumped into this sex scandal topic early too, for those who remember. He questioned why police acted so slowly, why PAP and WP has taken no position, he wanted to act like moral police as in the YSL case again. But baamm!! One River Valley teacher is on the list and suddenly GMS calls him a poor thing being attacked.

 

[Unrepented]

Re: 3rd batch name list coming out, includes Lawyers, high ranking army officers, ban

Contract with minor then how

This rule is out of sync with today's world where the Internet plays an important part in the lives of the people of the World.

In the law of contract, there are two or more parties.

There is an offer, counter-offer, rejection or acceptance.

If the offer is accepted then it becomes binding.

If not, then it is null and void.

That "hard-core prostitute" advertised her services and this created a response.

The respondents offered a price and she accepted thereby sealing the contract (as willing party)

She received her money for her services: no issue of "unpaid debts".

Why is she protected so vigourously by the law?

Is'nt she an accomplice? : "in furtrherance of common intention" or whatever legal eagles may call it.

If we want to appear as a clean society, then criminalise such activities once and for all. Send her and other like-minded people to jail too.

Why are so many people and their families and loved ones be made to go through unneccessary suffering.

Our parliamentarians should think of a way to deal with such an archaic law.

 

[drifter]

Re: 3rd batch name list coming out, includes Lawyers, high ranking army officers, ban

This definition is well understood... but how to proof that the man actually did penetrate the girl??? By her words? By her pimp's words??? I am talking about the question of law which up till now i still cannot understand.

If i insist that i paid to see the girl because i want to talk to her and convince her to stop prostituting herself... why should the judge believe in her and not me?????

skilled interrogators can get even the most hardened criminal to confess . do not underestimate singapore police .

 

[Cruxx]

Re: 3rd batch name list coming out, includes Lawyers, high ranking army officers, ban

skilled interrogators can get even the most hardened criminal to confess . do not underestimate singapore police .

I think you've underestimated the cowardice of Singaporeans.

 

[drifter]

Re: 3rd batch name list coming out, includes Lawyers, high ranking army officers, ban

I think you've underestimated the cowardice of Singaporeans.

whahahaha...good one . but its true that skilled interrogator can get the most hardcore criminal to confess without using any violent .

 

[Ramseth]

Re: 3rd batch name list coming out, includes Lawyers, high ranking army officers, ban

whahahaha...good one . but its true that skilled interrogator can get the most hardcore criminal to confess without using any violent .

Investigators using physical violence is 失敗しました！That's for lockup PCs and SCs. Investigators use mental torture!

 

[drifter]

Re: 3rd batch name list coming out, includes Lawyers, high ranking army officers, ban

Investigators using physical violence is 失敗しました！That's for lockup PCs and SCs. Investigators use mental torture!

agree . investigator using mental torture and fear to make you talk .

 

[GoldenDragon]

Re: 3rd batch name list coming out, includes Lawyers, high ranking army officers, ban

Is that NDP guards officer on the list? Despite everyone poo-poo this suggestion.

100% no. He's just unlucky.

 

[1sickpuppy II]

Re: 3rd batch name list coming out, includes Lawyers, high ranking army officers, ban

Can you imagine is really got a miw's name on the list will this case be swept under the carpet? Just like our neighbour up north blowing up that mongolian's CB then blame it on his 2 stooges. After that have his 2 stooges hanged. You can imagine this young whore's CB gets blown and case closed:p

 

[lianbeng]

Re: 3rd batch name list coming out, includes Lawyers, high ranking army officers, ban

This is a stupid law! We will run out of elites if so many of them are charge with such minor case

lianbeng noted this case sounds like edison chen and gary ng saga.more worms crawling out of can liao.

 

[Kohliantye]

Re: 3rd batch name list coming out, includes Lawyers, high ranking army officers, ban

Can you imagine is really got a miw's name on the list will this case be swept under the carpet? Just like our neighbour up north blowing up that mongolian's CB then blame it on his 2 stooges. After that have his 2 stooges hanged. You can imagine this young whore's CB gets blown and case closed:p

Bro/Sis,
How very sure are you that the two "stooges" were hanged? Malaysia is a huge country. In America its called the "Relocation Programme".

You may also recall the Kampar Prison Case about decade ago. It involved a filthy rich Chinese towkay.

Morning will see him reporting into his special cell and going off in the evening to spend the time with his family:9 to 5 pm kinda stuff.

Things are very different today!!!

 

[streetsmart73]

Re: 3rd batch name list coming out, includes Lawyers, high ranking army officers, ban

1. really pity the young gal ended up like this.
think she only collect very very little from the pimp.

2. must punish the pimp and organizer more severely.[/FONT]

hi there


1. yo! wake up & smell the kopi!
2. the whore is no 2-years old.
3. it is not groomed to spread her legs.
4. she did it for the money & earnings.
5. she is definitely a whore!
6. if you want to take pity.
7. do it for the families of those guys she bonked.

 

[streetsmart73]

Re: 3rd batch name list coming out, includes Lawyers, high ranking army officers, ban

Seriously... did all the 48 get caught with their pants down.. with the girl?
I cannot understand what it takes to persecute them on grounds of sex with underaged... just by phone appt or name list furnished by the PIMP? If the PIMP list my name does that make me guilty?? If the girl identified me as one who screwed her does that make me guilty? Did all these men admit guilt???

What happens to innocent till proven guilty? And what constitutes a valid proof? It is about a person's lifetime reputation.

Something is seriously wrong here.

1. hahaha!
2. it is would damn thrilling if subhas is able to put the whore on the stand.
3. trashing her for each & every detail of each bonk!
4. raiders would die cock standing.

 

[streetsmart73]

Re: 3rd batch name list coming out, includes Lawyers, high ranking army officers, ban

Wah liao never ending.might as well charged all singaporean men...

hi there


1. good one, bro!
2. all local sheep can turn monks loh.

 

[streetsmart73]

Re: 3rd batch name list coming out, includes Lawyers, high ranking army officers, ban

This definition is well understood... but how to proof that the man actually did penetrate the girl??? By her words? By her pimp's words??? I am talking about the question of law which up till now i still cannot understand.

If i insist that i paid to see the girl because i want to talk to her and convince her to stop prostituting herself... why should the judge believe in her and not me?????

hi there


1. bro, put the whore on the stand!

 

[groober2011]

Re: 3rd batch name list coming out, includes Lawyers, high ranking army officers, ban

It is quite apparent there is something not quite right about this case. Why would the government make such a big deal out of this? Surely everyone knows this is going on all the time and there are ads in the internet openly advertising it. Why now and why are the MSM's mentioning all the names and publishing their pictures?

This is something quite outrageous and Ministers are making statements when it is none of their business. What is really happening? Could the prostitute be the daughter of a VVIP?