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$3.3B Rollover Credit Card Debt in Peesai & Growing FAST!

makapaaa

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</TR><!-- headline one : end --><TR>More seeking credit counselling as incomes start to fall in recession </TR><!-- Author --><TR><TD class="padlrt8 georgia11 darkgrey bold" colSpan=2>By Radha Basu, Senior Correspondent
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CCS Counsellor Yong Siow Ying helping a client sort out loan repayments. The non-profit group is seeing more people turn up for advice on managing debts, and expects demand for its services to increase as the economy heads south. -- ST PHOTO: ASHLEIGH SIM
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<!-- START OF : div id="storytext"-->TILL late last year, banking executive Lily Lim, 30, was living the high life, visiting fancy restaurants and splurging four-figure sums on frequent holidays and shopping sprees. Then as her expenses sprinted past her income, the relationship manager thought she would become a property agent to cash in on the building boom.
<TABLE width=200 align=left valign="top"><TBODY><TR><TD class=padr8><!-- Vodcast --><!-- Background Story --><STYLE type=text/css> #related .quote {background-color:#E7F7FF; padding:8px;margin:0px 0px 5px 0px;} #related .quote .headline {font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size:10px;font-weight:bold; border-bottom:3px double #007BFF; color:#036; text-transform:uppercase; padding-bottom:5px;} #related .quote .text {font-size:11px;color:#036;padding:5px 0px;} </STYLE>Do's and don'ts
Do open, read and reply to mail from the banks.

Answer their calls.



</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>The gamble failed.
The property market stagnated suddenly. And her monthly income, which, buoyed by commissions, could touch $10,000 at the bank, plunged to $1,200.
By April, her credit card debts mounted to $75,000 and she was unable to pay even the minimum sums.
'I was in despair,' said the business degree holder who approached Credit Counselling Singapore to seek advice on how to rein in her debts.
'I had no idea you could go from boom to bust so soon.'
It is early days yet for the recession, but job woes have suddenly overtaken overspending as the key reason for mounting credit card debts, show numbers from Credit Counselling Singapore (CCS).
More than 60 per cent of CCS clients this year cited 'job-related' causes as the biggest factor that drove them deep into debt, up from 43 per cent in 2006.
Overspending was the main culprit in 57 per cent of the cases this year, up from 52 per cent in 2006.
A non-profit organisation, CCS helps debtors work out monthly instalment plans to pay off credit card bills. It has counselled more than 3,000 people since it was soft-launched in August 2003 and 15,000 have attended its weekly talks on how to pay back ballooning debts.
As the economy heads south, the numbers of those turning up for help at CCS are inching up. Nearly 600 attended the talks last quarter compared to 325 during the last quarter of last year.
This month, the numbers are likely to rise further. The latest session, last Wednesday evening, for instance, saw nearly 80 attendees.
Young and old, sharply-suited or shoddily-dressed, they listened quietly and took notes as CCS assistant director Tan Huey Min held forth on ways to work out payment plans with creditors.
'Open mail from your creditors, answer calls, stop using the facilities and continue to pay whatever you can,' said Ms Tan.
Fuelled by wanton spending, credit card rollover debt in Singapore ballooned by $296 million to $3.3 billion in the 12 months from August last year.
That is a three-fold rise from the $94 million increase recorded in the preceding 12 months.
Ms Tan said she and her colleagues are anticipating a bigger demand for their services as the economy worsens.
CCS' head of counselling Lim Cheng Boon said a booming economy had caused many people to overspend in the past couple of years.
'The sudden recession - where a client or a spouse can lose a job or face a pay cut - is making matters worse.'
While most of the debtors are married and in their 30s and 40s, the number of spendthrift singles in the same age groups is also on the rise.
One of his clients, who is 44 and single, had her pay slashed from $12,000 to $4,000 in July this year, when business slowed down for the lifestyle firm she worked for.
Saddled with credit card debts of $288,000 - largely a result of her love of Louis Vuitton and luxury holidays overseas, lavish gifts for her extended family and interest - she landed up at CCS for help.
'With the easy availability of credit cards, often people forget that they are spending not cash but credit that will need to be paid back soon,' said Mr Lim, who has counselled more than 500 debtors.
'And with multiple cards, many don't know how much they spend every month.'
Any change in income can be disastrous, as marketing executive Genevieve Lee, 33, learnt the hard way. She used her credit card and overdraft facilities to pay $30,000 for a distance learning course. Shortly afterwards, she lost her job.

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It took her nearly two years to find another job. By then, her debts had ballooned to $90,000. 'Since the economy was booming, I kept thinking I'd find a job soon,' she said. 'But I never did.'
Ms Teo is now on a debt management plan (DMP), under which she pays a fixed sum of $1,900 to her creditors every month.
During one-on-one counselling sessions, CCS helps debtors list out their income, expenses and surplus and work out how much they can afford to pay back the banks. Barring a few 'exceptional cases', like when a family member is seriously ill, the entire debt needs to be paid back in a maximum of five years.
Telecommunications executive Lawrence Wong, 27, was at the CCS office last week seeking help with credit-card debts of $58,000 he chalked up in less than two years, largely as a result of Internet betting.
'We have no money to lend - we are just a facilitator,' counsellor Yong Siow Ying, a retired bank manager, told Mr Wong.
After a two hour session totting up her client's monthly expenses versus income, she worked out that he will need to fork out about $1,020 per month to pay off his debts in five years.
Mr Wong, who is single, agreed to take on an additional weekend job. But it is not going to be easy. Since he is a relatively new customer, the banks may be unlikely to accept a five-year payment plan from him, warned Ms Yong, adding 'We are in no position to bargain.'
But her client is determined. 'I made a birthday resolution to take charge of my debts,' he told The Straits Times. The economy, he pointed out, was not getting any better. 'So I must start soon.'
(The names of all the debtors in this story have been changed at their request)
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borom

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The most expensive way to borrow money is to rollover your credit cards outstanding/debts.

The admin/late fees and interest charges can quickly accumulate to a very high amount.
This is made worse by the fact that the card issuers "encourage" card holders to pay the minimum (normally 3% outstanding) and rollover 97% of the debt.

The issue is- what are the authorities doing about this?
Isn't it part of the responsibility of the government to educate its citizen about things like that-and if education does not work to put in measures like say a 30% miniumum repayment of credit card outstanding a month.

The best way to use credit cards is to pay the full outstanding everymonth
on the due date itself.In this way you do not incur any fees/charges and let your monies earn interest in your savings account.
 

ahleebabasingaporethief

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What it means is that plenty of Singaporeans are in TROUBLE.

They are borrowing from credit cards' limits to pay for their bills and expenses to tell their neigbours and friends everything is hunky dory.

In the meantime, they hit 4D, Totos, casinos, jackpot rooms, trying their luck to "strike" the big one to clear their debts.

For these group of people using their credit cards, the sooner you cut up your cards the better.

If possible, file for BANKRUPTCY. I am not joking.

Nowadays due to the huge amount of bad debts, financial institutions are very worried that you file for BANKRUPTCY. They rather you seek help from counsellors and make repaymeny every month.

BANKRUPTCY or MONTHLY REPAYMENTS? The choice is yours.

Really nothing to be shy about being a bankrupt even if you hols a Masters degree.

Even one of Singapore's richest men was a bankrupt a few times over before he became rich. They never publisize this fact.

To be a bankrupt means you have dared to try and failed. But if you are reckless, you do not fall into this category. Yes, you have tried and failed.

You have GUTS!
 

chinkangkor

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These people may become suicidal as desperation continues to set in and will need extra help to get back on their feet. The Samaritans should start expanding their volunteer base to cope so as to be able give some hope to these people when they find the going getting tougher and tougher.
 

sleaguepunter

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i cannot feel any pity for anyone who spend lavishly then say credit card company are blood suckers. They deserved it when kenna hound by credit collection companies. Nobody put a knife at their throats and force them to spend. Spend shiok shiok then cannot pay, where got so good one?:mad:
 

peasantJUDGE

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What it means is that plenty of Singaporeans are in TROUBLE.

In the meantime, they hit 4D, Totos, casinos, jackpot rooms, trying their luck to "strike" the big one to clear their debts.

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You hit the nail on the head. The Marina Sands people are so confident that they will make money within the first few years because of our Singaporean gambling culture. Probably the S'pore Tourism Board convinced them with that S'pore trait. Tourist money are just the icing on the cake. Marina Sands makes money from the casino, the Tourism Board/Singapore make money from the tourists coming in. Now you know why Sheldon Adelson die die also must continue with the Marina Sands construction, and chose to stop work on the Macau and the US projects.
 

jw5

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The most expensive way to borrow money is to rollover your credit cards outstanding/debts.

The admin/late fees and interest charges can quickly accumulate to a very high amount.
This is made worse by the fact that the card issuers "encourage" card holders to pay the minimum (normally 3% outstanding) and rollover 97% of the debt.

The issue is- what are the authorities doing about this?
Isn't it part of the responsibility of the government to educate its citizen about things like that-and if education does not work to put in measures like say a 30% miniumum repayment of credit card outstanding a month.

The best way to use credit cards is to pay the full outstanding everymonth
on the due date itself.In this way you do not incur any fees/charges and let your monies earn interest in your savings account.
Why don't the parents edcuate the children?
Why do they need to rely on the government for everything?
 

jw5

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i cannot feel any pity for anyone who spend lavishly then say credit card company are blood suckers. They deserved it when kenna hound by credit collection companies. Nobody put a knife at their throats and force them to spend. Spend shiok shiok then cannot pay, where got so good one?:mad:
I would have to agree.
They made their own choices, not due to bad luck or fate.
 

Faidenk

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A quick lesson 15 years ago, although not an unmanageable amount, taught me credit cards are fraught with dangers of spending beyond your means and unable to pay. It's just too convenient, and 1.5% doesn't sound really that much when you are desperately in need of cash, until you realize that 1.5% is equivalent of more than 20% per annum, including interest compounded.

Now, all I have is a debit card which is used only for hotels, air tickets and stuff I purchase online. All others is paid by cash. No cash? No buy.
 

lifeafter41

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One of his clients, who is 44 and single, had her pay slashed from $12,000 to $4,000 in July this year, when business slowed down for the lifestyle firm she worked for.
Saddled with credit card debts of $288,000 - largely a result of her love of Louis Vuitton and luxury holidays overseas, lavish gifts for her extended family and interest - she landed up at CCS for help.

She can have her LV Bags for breakfast, lunch or dinner for the next 5 to 6 years, while the rest of her pay goes towards paying off her debts.
 

jw5

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One of his clients, who is 44 and single, had her pay slashed from $12,000 to $4,000 in July this year, when business slowed down for the lifestyle firm she worked for.
Saddled with credit card debts of $288,000 - largely a result of her love of Louis Vuitton and luxury holidays overseas, lavish gifts for her extended family and interest - she landed up at CCS for help.

She can have her LV Bags for breakfast, lunch or dinner for the next 5 to 6 years, while the rest of her pay goes towards paying off her debts.
People like these don't deserve any sympathy.
 

zhihau

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More seeking credit counselling as incomes start to fall in recession

i only have this free advice to these folks: Income - Savings = Expenditure

how difficult can this be? don't be a moron and spend more than you can earn, and if you do, i'd only wish you good luck so you can strike lottery, expect no sympathies from anyone else :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:
 

lifeafter41

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bro,

don't be so mean lah, we can still wish them a bit of good luck so they can get out of the rut faster :p

I believe the comment is not meant to be "mean", it has got more to do with living the good life but within your means.

Living the good life using credit (credit card for that matter) and rolling over the balance, is asking for trouble.

You can be earning, 2.5k, 5k, 10k or even 200k per month, all good things will come to an end, somehow or rather, but don't get caught with your pants down rolling over credit card balances. And when lost job or business failure, then start to complain about the high interest charged by the banks.

Banks are not charitable organisation, they exist to make profit and money.
 

jw5

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i only have this free advice to these folks: Income - Savings = Expenditure

how difficult can this be? don't be a moron and spend more than you can earn, and if you do, i'd only wish you good luck so you can strike lottery, expect no sympathies from anyone else :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:
That's your formula.
Their formula is:
Expenditure = Present value of projected future income assuming a 5% increase per year.
 

jw5

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bro,

don't be so mean lah, we can still wish them a bit of good luck so they can get out of the rut faster :p
I wish them all the good luck in the world.
They'll need it.
But still no sympathy. :smile:
 
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