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Lockdowns and school closures may be killing MORE children than Covid-19, warn leading UN officials citing new study
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Lockdowns and school closures may be killing MORE children than Covid-19, warn leading UN officials citing new study

A man and his children, all wearing protective masks, ride a bicycle on a street during the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) outbreak, in Hanoi, Vietnam July 27, 2020. © REUTERS/Kham

Advocates of reopening schools may have found a surprise ally in leaders of UN agencies – including the WHO – who cited a new study to show children may suffer more harm from lockdowns than the actual pandemic.

“The repercussions of the pandemic are causing more harm to children than the disease itself,” UNICEF director Henrietta H Fore said on Monday, seeking more funding to deal with the crisis. The agency’s nutrition program chief Victor Aguayo added that harm is caused “by having schools closed, by having primary health care services disrupted, by having nutritional programs dysfunctional.”

Fore joined World Health Organization director Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, UN Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) chief Qu Dongyu, and World Food Programme director David M Beasley in signing a call to action published in the Lancet, citing Covid-19 response strategies such as “physical distancing, school closures, trade restrictions, and country lockdowns” as contributing to child malnutrition globally.

This could increase the number of children affected by acute malnutrition by an additional 6.7 million, on top of the 47 million the UN estimated were affected by “wasting” prior to the pandemic. It could also cause more than 10,000 additional deaths each month – or 128,000 over the span of the next 12 months, the four officials said.

These estimates are based on a study by researchers from several scientific establishments, including the Washington-based International Food Policy Research Institute (IFPRI) and the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, published by the Lancet this week.

After analyzing more than 118 low- and middle-income countries, the researchers warned that disruptions from Covid-19 response could endanger millions of families. Four out of five people affected live across South Asia and sub-Saharan Africa, with children up to five years old most at risk.

The lockdowns and other pandemic mitigation measures could result in “life-long impacts on education, chronic disease risks, and overall human capital formation,” as well as “intergenerational consequences for child growth and development.”
 

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Lockdowns Have Sentenced Up to 1.2 Million Children Under 5 to Death — UNICEF
“We need to lift our eyes and look at the total picture of public health”

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The risk of children dying from malaria, pneumonia or diarrhoea in developing countries is spiralling due to the pandemic and “far outweighs any threat presented by the coronavirus”, Unicef has warned.

In an exclusive interview Dr Stefan Peterson, chief of health at Unicef, cautioned that the blanket lockdowns imposed in many low and middle income are not an effective way to control Covid-19 and could have deadly repercussions.

“Indiscriminate lockdown measures do not have an optimal effect on the virus,” he told The Telegraph. “If you’re asking families to stay at home in one room in a slum, without food or water, that won’t limit virus transmission.


“I’m concerned that lockdown measures have been copied between countries for lack of knowing what to do, rarely with any contextualisation for the local situation,” he said.

“One size fits no one. The objective is to slow the virus, not to lockdown people. “We need to lift our eyes and look at the total picture of public health.”
According to a stark report published in Lancet Global Health journal on Wednesday, almost 1.2 million children could die in the next six months due to the disruption to health services and food supplies caused by the coronavirus pandemic.


The modelling, by researchers at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health and Unicef, found that child mortality rates could rise by as much as 45 per cent due to coronavirus-related disruptions, while maternal deaths could increase by almost 39 per cent.


Dr Peterson said these figures were in part a reflection of stringent restrictions in much of the world that prevent people leaving their homes without documentation, preventing them from accessing essential health care services.

In some countries the public are also avoiding hospitals and health centres for fear of picking up Covid-19, while services have also been diverted to focus on the pandemic. Vaccination campaigns against diseases including measles have also been disrupted – at least 117 million children worldwide are likely to miss out on routine immunisations this year.

Dr Peterson warned that these trends have resulted in a reduction in the “effective utilisation of services” – a shift which, in some places, could be more dangerous than the virus itself. And lockdowns have a heavy economic toll, which could trigger a rise in poverty and malnutrition.

The research looks at the consequences of disruption in 118 low and middle income countries, based on three scenarios. Even in the most optimistic case, where access to health services dropped by 15 per cent and child wasting rose by 10 per cent, an additional 253,500 children and 12,200 mothers died.

But a worst-case scenario
, where services are reduced by 45 per cent and the proportion of children who are wasting grows by 50 per cent, could result in 1.16 million additional child fatalities and 57,000 maternal deaths in just six months.

The modelling projected that India would see both the largest number of additional deaths in children under five and maternal mortality, followed by Nigeria. Pakistan, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Tanzania and Indonesia are also likely to be hit hard.

Such a situation has some precedent – research has shown that in 2014, during the Ebola outbreak in west Africa, more people died from indirect effects than the disease itself. But the scale of the pandemic means the consequences will be far greater.

“Ever since we started counting child deaths and maternal mortality, those numbers have been going down and down and down,” said Dr Peterson. “And actually these times are unprecedented because we’re very likely to be looking at a scenario where figures are going up.

“That’s not from Covid – Covid is not a children’s disease. Yes there are rare instances and we see them publicised across the media. But pneumonia, diarrhoea, measles, death in childbirth, these are the reasons we will see deaths rise,” he said. “These threats far outweighs any threat presented by the coronavirus in low and middle income countries.”


Dr Peterson urged countries not to impose draconian lockdowns, but to focus on identifying hotspots so that regional restrictions less damaging for public health can be introduced.

He said he was concerned that the current battle against Covid-19 was turning into a “child’s rights crisis” and robbing a generation of their health, education and economic prospects.

Launching the ‘Save Generation Covid’ campaign, Unicef’s largest appeal in its 73 year history, Sacha Deshmukh, executive director of Unicef UK, added: “This [insane response to the] pandemic is having far-reaching consequences for all of us, but it is undoubtedly the biggest and most urgent global crisis children have faced since World War Two.

“We cannot allow almost a decade of progress on ending preventable child deaths to become undone on our watch.”

Source: The Telegraph
 

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It's now looking like the lockdowns may have been a huge mistake
Michael Barone

4-6 minutes



September 6, 2020 | 8:58pm | Updated September 7, 2020 | 9:31am


Were lockdowns a mistake? To that nagging question, the answer increasingly seems to be yes.
Certainly, they were a novelty. As novelist Lionel Shriver writes, “We’ve never before responded to a contagion by closing down whole countries.” As I’ve noted, the 1957-58 Asian flu killed between 70,000 and 116,000 Americans, between 0.04 percent and 0.07 percent of the nation’s population. The 1968-70 Hong Kong flu killed about 100,000, 0.05 percent of the population.
The US coronavirus death toll of 186,000 is 0.055 percent of the current population. It will go higher, but it’s about the same magnitude as those two flus, and it has been less deadly to those under 65 than the flus were. Yet there were no statewide lockdowns; no massive school closings; no closings of office buildings and factories, restaurants and museums. No one considered shutting down Woodstock.
Why are attitudes so different today? Perhaps we have greater confidence in government’s effectiveness. If public policy can affect climate change, it can stamp out a virus.
Plus, we’re much more risk-averse. Children aren’t allowed to walk to school; jungle gyms have vanished from playgrounds; college students are shielded from microaggressions. We have a “safetyism mindset,” as Jonathan Haidt and Greg Lukianoff write in “The Coddling of the American Mind,” under which “many aspects of students’ lives needed to be carefully regulated by adults.”
So the news of the COVID-19 virus killing dozens and overloading hospitals in Bergamo, Italy, triggered a flight to safety and restriction. Many Americans stopped going to restaurants and shops even before the lockdowns were ordered in March and April. The exaggerated projections of some epidemiologists, with a professional interest in forecasting pandemics, triggered demands that governments act.
The legitimate fears that hospitals would be overwhelmed apparently explain the (in retrospect, deadly) orders of the governors of New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania and Michigan requiring elderly care facilities to admit COVID-infected patients. And the original purpose to “flatten the curve” segued into “stamp out the virus.”
But the apparent success of South Korea and island nations — Taiwan, Singapore, New Zealand — in doing so could never be replicated in the continental, globalized United States.
Governors imposing continued lockdowns claimed to be “following the science.” But only in one dimension: reducing the immediate number of COVID-19 cases. The lockdowns also prevented cancer screenings, heart-attack treatment and substance-abuse counseling, the absence of which resulted in a large but hard-to-estimate number of deaths. What Haidt and Lukianoff call “vindictive protectiveness” turned out to be not very protective.
Examples include shaming beachgoers though outdoor virus spread is minimal; extending school shutdowns though few children get or transmit the infection; closing down gardening aisles in superstores; and barring church services while blessing inevitably noisy and crowded demonstrations for politically favored causes.
The new thinking on lockdowns, as Greg Ip reported in the Wall Street Journal last week, is that “they’re overly blunt and costly.” That supports President Trump’s mid-April statement that “A prolonged lockdown combined with a forced economic depression would inflict an immense and wide-ranging toll on public health.”
For many, that economic damage has been of Great Depression proportions. Restaurants and small businesses have been closed forever, even before the last three months of “mostly peaceful” urban rioting. Losses have been concentrated on those with low income and little wealth, while lockdowns have added tens of billions to the net worth of Amazon’s Jeff Bezos and Facebook’s Mark Zuckerberg.
The anti-lockdown blogger (and former New York Times reporter) Alex Berenson makes a powerful case that lockdowns delayed, rather than prevented, infections.
There are old lessons here. Governments can sometimes channel but never entirely control nature. There is no way to entirely eliminate risk. Attempts to reduce one risk may increase others. Amid uncertainty, people make mistakes. Like, maybe, the lockdowns.
 

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And all the children that are dying as a result of the response to the lockdowns are well loved too and they should have been able to look forward to a whole life ahead of them. Instead they are dying prematurely. It's a real tragedy.

Errrr no. You might want to look at reality, instead of your fantasy world.

https://www.news.com.au/world/europ...d/news-story/374e397d9232036000a1d38548eabff9

Sweden’s herd immunity strategy has failed, hospitals inundated
With three words, Sweden’s king captured the panic engulfing his country as it backflips on its COVID-19 strategy and case numbers explode.


Rohan Smith
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NOVEMBER 21, 20208:47PM


With three words, Sweden’s King Carl Gustaf captured the panic engulfing his country as it backflips on a controversial herd immunity strategy and coronavirus case numbers explode.

On Instagram, he wrote, simply: “Hold on tight!”

The message is echoing around the Nordic breakaway nation which, up until now, has run a distinctly different race to its neighbours who locked down hard when the pandemic breached its borders.
It signals a complete reversal of a policy that allowed Swedes to govern themselves in the hopes that life could go on as normal.
Life did carry on as normal and it looked like Sweden might be vindicated for its strategy. But in the past few weeks, the country of 10 million has been smashed by COVID-19.

There were 6000 cases in a single day last week and hospitalisations are rising faster than anywhere else in Europe.

The death toll is following predictably behind. The Washington Post reports that Sweden’s per capita death rate is several times higher than in Finland, Denmark and Norway – all of which locked down early.
It is believed roughly one-in-five people in Stockholm are infected.
With numbers exploding, Prime Minister Stefan Lofven has been forced to swallow his pride and admit that he got it wrong.
RELATED: Virus will ‘fight back’ against vaccine
‘Hold on tight’: Sweden’s King Carl XVI Gustaf has captured the panic currently being felt in the country. Picture: Anders Wiklund/AFP

‘Hold on tight’: Sweden’s King Carl XVI Gustaf has captured the panic currently being felt in the country. Picture: Anders Wiklund/AFPSource:AFP
Sweden’s PM Stefan Lofven has conceded the herd immunity approach was wrong. Picture: Henrik Montgomery/TT News Agency/AFP

Sweden’s PM Stefan Lofven has conceded the herd immunity approach was wrong. Picture: Henrik Montgomery/TT News Agency/AFPSource:AFP
RELATED: UK’s horror day of death
At a news conference on Monday, he did just that, telling reporters: “It is a clear and sharp signal to every person in our country as to what applies in the future. Don’t go to the gym, don’t go the library, don’t have dinner out, don’t have parties – cancel!”
And with that, Sweden’s experiment was officially crushed. But critics say it was never going to succeed.




Australian man and COVID-19 long-hauler David Steadson, who worked as an epidemiologist with the University of Queensland before moving to Sweden 20 years ago, told news.com.au the Swedish model rested too heavily on the wishful thinking that Swedes would keep themselves safe.
But the attitude that COVID-19 was not to be taken seriously became intertwined in the public health response.
RELATED: Next two weeks crucial for UK lockdown
Back in May, Swedes were happily enjoying the sunshine with little concern over social distancing despite the coronavirus pandemic. Picture: Henrik Montgomery/TT News Agency/AFP

Back in May, Swedes were happily enjoying the sunshine with little concern over social distancing despite the coronavirus pandemic. Picture: Henrik Montgomery/TT News Agency/AFPSource:AFP



But what a difference six months makes. Now tables are taped off and fewer people are out and about as the second wave has hit the country hard. Picture: Fredrik Sandberg/TT News Agency/AFP

But what a difference six months makes. Now tables are taped off and fewer people are out and about as the second wave has hit the country hard. Picture: Fredrik Sandberg/TT News Agency/AFPSource:AFP

RELATED: Virus vaccine’s two side effects
When Mr Steadson first became ill, the advice from doctors was to stay away.
“Having suspected I had COVID-19, I was told not to even go to the doctor for fear of infecting health staff,” he says.
Even local media failed to gauge the seriousness of the situation, he said.
“Media outlets seemed more concerned with protecting Sweden’s image than they did in reporting the facts, and challenging the authorities over some of the frankly outrageous statements they make is left almost entirely to foreign journalists,” he says.

Dr Nick Talley is editor-in-chief of the Medical Journal of Australia. He says the Swedish model has been a failure.
“In my view, the Swedish model has not been a success, at least to date,” he told news.com.au.
“One clear goal at least early on was [to] reach herd immunity – but this was not achieved, not even close, and this was arguably predictable.”

RELATED: Swedish model takes a turn as cases soar
State epidemiologist Anders Tegnell has made a U-turn in his coronavirus thinking as infections in the Nordic country spiral out of control. Picture: Janerik Henriksson/TT News Agency/AFP

State epidemiologist Anders Tegnell has made a U-turn in his coronavirus thinking as infections in the Nordic country spiral out of control. Picture: Janerik Henriksson/TT News Agency/AFPSource:AFP


He is joined by an increasing number of experts, both overseas and in Sweden, who are seeing the light.

Annika Linde, who was the predecessor to Sweden’s top public health officer Anders Tegnell, told the UK’s Daily Telegraph that she “hoped” Dr Tegnell was right about projections that Sweden would suffer less casualties because of accrued immunity.

“I hoped he was right. It would have been great. But he wasn’t,” she said. “Now we have a high death rate, and we have not escaped a second wave: Immunity makes a little difference maybe, but not much difference.”
 

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Errrr no. You might want to look at reality, instead of your fantasy world.

https://www.news.com.au/world/europ...d/news-story/374e397d9232036000a1d38548eabff9

Sweden’s herd immunity strategy has failed, hospitals inundated
With three words, Sweden’s king captured the panic engulfing his country as it backflips on its COVID-19 strategy and case numbers explode.


Rohan Smith
ro_smith
5bc4738185366b836f040416d11b7311

NOVEMBER 21, 20208:47PM


With three words, Sweden’s King Carl Gustaf captured the panic engulfing his country as it backflips on a controversial herd immunity strategy and coronavirus case numbers explode.

On Instagram, he wrote, simply: “Hold on tight!”

The message is echoing around the Nordic breakaway nation which, up until now, has run a distinctly different race to its neighbours who locked down hard when the pandemic breached its borders.
It signals a complete reversal of a policy that allowed Swedes to govern themselves in the hopes that life could go on as normal.
Life did carry on as normal and it looked like Sweden might be vindicated for its strategy. But in the past few weeks, the country of 10 million has been smashed by COVID-19.

There were 6000 cases in a single day last week and hospitalisations are rising faster than anywhere else in Europe.

The death toll is following predictably behind. The Washington Post reports that Sweden’s per capita death rate is several times higher than in Finland, Denmark and Norway – all of which locked down early.
It is believed roughly one-in-five people in Stockholm are infected.
With numbers exploding, Prime Minister Stefan Lofven has been forced to swallow his pride and admit that he got it wrong.
RELATED: Virus will ‘fight back’ against vaccine
‘Hold on tight’: Sweden’s King Carl XVI Gustaf has captured the panic currently being felt in the country. Picture: Anders Wiklund/AFP

‘Hold on tight’: Sweden’s King Carl XVI Gustaf has captured the panic currently being felt in the country. Picture: Anders Wiklund/AFPSource:AFP
Sweden’s PM Stefan Lofven has conceded the herd immunity approach was wrong. Picture: Henrik Montgomery/TT News Agency/AFP

Sweden’s PM Stefan Lofven has conceded the herd immunity approach was wrong. Picture: Henrik Montgomery/TT News Agency/AFPSource:AFP
RELATED: UK’s horror day of death
At a news conference on Monday, he did just that, telling reporters: “It is a clear and sharp signal to every person in our country as to what applies in the future. Don’t go to the gym, don’t go the library, don’t have dinner out, don’t have parties – cancel!”
And with that, Sweden’s experiment was officially crushed. But critics say it was never going to succeed.




Australian man and COVID-19 long-hauler David Steadson, who worked as an epidemiologist with the University of Queensland before moving to Sweden 20 years ago, told news.com.au the Swedish model rested too heavily on the wishful thinking that Swedes would keep themselves safe.
But the attitude that COVID-19 was not to be taken seriously became intertwined in the public health response.
RELATED: Next two weeks crucial for UK lockdown
Back in May, Swedes were happily enjoying the sunshine with little concern over social distancing despite the coronavirus pandemic. Picture: Henrik Montgomery/TT News Agency/AFP

Back in May, Swedes were happily enjoying the sunshine with little concern over social distancing despite the coronavirus pandemic. Picture: Henrik Montgomery/TT News Agency/AFPSource:AFP



But what a difference six months makes. Now tables are taped off and fewer people are out and about as the second wave has hit the country hard. Picture: Fredrik Sandberg/TT News Agency/AFP

But what a difference six months makes. Now tables are taped off and fewer people are out and about as the second wave has hit the country hard. Picture: Fredrik Sandberg/TT News Agency/AFPSource:AFP

RELATED: Virus vaccine’s two side effects
When Mr Steadson first became ill, the advice from doctors was to stay away.
“Having suspected I had COVID-19, I was told not to even go to the doctor for fear of infecting health staff,” he says.
Even local media failed to gauge the seriousness of the situation, he said.
“Media outlets seemed more concerned with protecting Sweden’s image than they did in reporting the facts, and challenging the authorities over some of the frankly outrageous statements they make is left almost entirely to foreign journalists,” he says.

Dr Nick Talley is editor-in-chief of the Medical Journal of Australia. He says the Swedish model has been a failure.
“In my view, the Swedish model has not been a success, at least to date,” he told news.com.au.
“One clear goal at least early on was [to] reach herd immunity – but this was not achieved, not even close, and this was arguably predictable.”

RELATED: Swedish model takes a turn as cases soar
State epidemiologist Anders Tegnell has made a U-turn in his coronavirus thinking as infections in the Nordic country spiral out of control. Picture: Janerik Henriksson/TT News Agency/AFP

State epidemiologist Anders Tegnell has made a U-turn in his coronavirus thinking as infections in the Nordic country spiral out of control. Picture: Janerik Henriksson/TT News Agency/AFPSource:AFP


He is joined by an increasing number of experts, both overseas and in Sweden, who are seeing the light.

Annika Linde, who was the predecessor to Sweden’s top public health officer Anders Tegnell, told the UK’s Daily Telegraph that she “hoped” Dr Tegnell was right about projections that Sweden would suffer less casualties because of accrued immunity.

“I hoped he was right. It would have been great. But he wasn’t,” she said. “Now we have a high death rate, and we have not escaped a second wave: Immunity makes a little difference maybe, but not much difference.”

Sweden never had a herd immunity strategy. The article above is talking rubbish. This is what Anders Tegnell said :

https://www.newstatesman.com/world/...did-not-pursue-herd-immunity-against-covid-19

Both supporters and detractors have described Sweden’s strategy as one of “herd immunity”: allowing the majority of the population to contract Covid-19 in the hope of building resistance to it. But Tegnell insists that this is not the case. “That’s incorrect – in common with other countries we’re trying to slow down the spread as much as possible... To imply that we let the disease run free without any measures to try to stop it is not true.”

He warned that a genuine herd immunity strategy could be disastrous: “If you have Covid-19 spreading, so that 50-60 per cent of your society eventually have the disease, it can rapidly overwhelm your health service and possibly cause a number of deaths indefinitely and leave people with long-term consequences. If you can avoid that I would say that you definitely should.”
 

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Sweden overall mortality tracking a lot lower than previous years which proves that Covid-19 is no worse than the flu.
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Plenty of ICU capacity too. It shows that the articles about Sweden are largely lies.

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Sweden overall mortality tracking a lot lower than previous years which proves that Covid-19 is no worse than the flu.
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Errrr no. Not even close.

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Paul Krugman
November 17, 2020​
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Students gather to smoke and drink at Drakenbergsparken in Stockholm in April 2020.Andres Kudacki for The New York Times​
Author Headshot By Paul Krugman
Opinion Columnist
One of the odder twists in the terrible saga of America’s failed Covid-19 response was the way the Trump administration and many U.S. conservatives fell briefly in love with Sweden. Yes, that Sweden, where universal health care is mostly provided directly by the government, where taxes take 44 percent of G.D.P. compared with just 24 percent here, where two-thirds of the work force is unionized.​
Most of the time, in other words, Sweden is an example of everything conservatives hate; its very existence is a rebuttal to their claims that low taxes and harsh treatment of the poor are essential to prosperity.​
But in this year of Covid, Sweden chose a different path from other European countries. Where its neighbors were imposing lockdowns to limit the spread of the coronavirus, Sweden chose to follow a strategy of “herd immunity” — letting the virus spread in the belief that once enough people had been infected and developed antibodies, the pandemic would burn out of its own accord.​
I don’t know enough about Swedish politics and society to know why Swedish authorities were so willing to go their own way, so confident that they understood the pandemic better than anyone else in the world.​
I do know that the U.S. right seized on the Swedish example, because the Swedes were doing what they themselves wanted to do about the coronavirus — nothing.​
As an aside, this is a familiar pattern in America. By and large, we’re remarkably unwilling to learn from other nation’s policies. But every once in a while people on the U.S. right become infatuated with a small, far away country of which they know nothing whose experience, they believe, confirms their prejudices.​
For example, there was a brief period in the mid-2000s when U.S. conservatives who wanted to privatize Social Security constantly sang the praises of Chile’s retirement system, which they claimed demonstrated just how wonderfully their proposed reforms would work. As it turned out, the Chileans themselves hated the system, which provided very little security, and in 2008 they changed it in ways that made it more like … U.S. Social Security.​
So it was with Sweden’s pandemic response. Conservatives — most notably Dr. Scott Atlas, the not-an-epidemiologist from the Hoover Institution who has become Donald Trump’s main coronavirus adviser — rushed to embrace the Swedish model. Atlas was praising Sweden as recently as late last month.​
Meanwhile, however, the Swedes themselves are tacitly admitting that they made a terrible mistake.
Swedish authorities waved away the country’s experience in the spring, when it suffered far more infections and deaths than its neighbors. Just you wait, they said: we’re developing herd immunity, so we won’t have a second wave in the fall, while our neighbors will.


Then the fall came, and Sweden is in fact having a second wave — much worse than the wave in its neighbors. And on Monday the nation imposed substantial new restrictions on public gatherings, although it’s still balking at a broader lockdown.
Unfortunately, I don’t think the failure of the Swedish model will change many minds here. As some wag put it, the modern U.S. right doesn’t believe in evidence-based policy, it believes in policy-based evidence: seizing on or, if necessary, inventing facts that seem to support what it wants to do anyway. And of course Donald Trump, who will still be president for another two months, never admits to anything inconvenient — up to and including the fact that he lost the election.​
Anyway, conservatives’ love affair with Sweden will be over soon. And then they’ll be able to go back to denouncing what remains a very decent country as one of Europe’s “failed welfare states.”​
 

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Plenty of ICU capacity too. It shows that the articles about Sweden are largely lies.

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Errrr no, you are delusional.


Sweden: No signs that herd immunity is slowing down the virus
Over 25 per cent of Sweden’s total coronavirus cases were recorded in November alone

Mayank Aggarwal@journomayank
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Sweden's chief epidemiologist Anders Tegnell has said that the “issue of herd immunity is difficult” and they see “no signs of immunity” in the population battling coronavirus.
From the start of the pandemic, Sweden broke ranks with most other countries and decided against a national lockdown to contain the virus. Though “herd immunity” was never explicitly referred to as a goal by officials, the country allowed schools, restaurants and shops to remain open and only urged people over 70 to limit their social contacts.
It has seen the nation’s progress watched closely, particularly by those who believe the virus can be stopped naturally once it has spread sufficiently for large swathes of a population to develop antibodies.

Sweden has so far seen no evidence of this happening, Dr Tegnell told a briefing in Stockholm on Tuesday. “We see no signs of immunity in the population that are slowing down the infection right now,” he said.

Thomas Linden of Sweden’s National Board of Health and Welfare said they are still seeing “an increase in patients who need care and intensive care” and cautioned that “one must not take the fact that there is a vaccine a few months away” as a reason to be “careless with measures.”
“In a third wave, the healthcare system will be even more strained than it has been so far,” Mr Linden said.
In the past two months, Europe including Sweden has seen a serious resurgence of Covid-19 cases. Countries like the UK, France and Germany opted for returns to full or partial lockdown to control the spread of the pandemic.
According to the World Health Organisation, Sweden has recorded 208,295 cases till now including 6,406 deaths. More than 50,000 cases, about 25 per cent of its total so far, have come in November alone.

In October, the Nordic country had its first regional lockdown during the pandemic when around 170,000 citizens of Uppsala, a town near Stockholm, were asked to work from home.
Last week, Sweden banned public events or more than eight people and its Prime Minister Stefan Lofven had cautioned that things are “going to get worse” and asked people to “take responsibility to stop the spread of infection.”
 
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Plenty of ICU capacity too. It shows that the articles about Sweden are largely lies.

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Errrr, tell it to the Swedes. You live in an alternate universe.

https://www.thelocal.se/20201125/today-in-sweden-a-round-up-of-the-latest-news-on-20201125

Today in Sweden: A round-up of the latest news on Wednesday
Catherine Edwards

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25 November 2020
08:59 CET+01:00
today in swedenmembership exclusives
Today in Sweden: A round-up of the latest news on Wednesday

A woman on an e-scooter wears a face mask on a wintery Stockholm day, an increasingly common sight. Photo: Fredrik Sandberg / TT
Find out what's going on in Sweden today with The Local's short round-up of the news in less than five minutes.

More people in Sweden buying face masks
More and more people are buying face masks at Swedish pharmacies, reports the TT news agency, despite the country being among the very few in the world that have not issued an official coronavirus recommendation to wear face masks in crowded spaces.
Apotea, Sweden’s largest online pharmacy, sold around 700,000 face masks last week, a huge increase on a few weeks ago, when it sold a weekly average of 80,000-90,000. State-owned Apoteket, the largest pharmacy chain, also told TT that face mask sales increased 139 percent between November 1st and 23rd, compared to the same period in October.
Swedish vocabulary: pharmacy – apotek

'Long Covid' sufferers call for more support in Sweden
More resources are needed for patients with long-term symptoms of Covid-19, according to the Svenska Covidförening, a patients' association with over 1,400 members. The association recently released a report highlighting some of the problems faced by sufferers of the condition known as 'long Covid'.
"It is a huge problem that it is not talked about. There is a great risk that people's perception is that the problem does not exist. And we want to show that it actually does," said chairperson Åsa Kristoferson Hedlund.
She compared the situation in Sweden with that of the UK, where money has been allocated to open dozens of specialist clinics for those with long-term symptoms.
Swedish vocabulary: long-term – långvarig
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Leongsam

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Errrr no. Not even close.

https://messaging-custom-newsletter...182c&user_id=95489afce1b383d1dfa7e43a31c941e4


Paul Krugman
November 17, 2020​
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Students gather to smoke and drink at Drakenbergsparken in Stockholm in April 2020.Andres Kudacki for The New York Times​
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Opinion Columnist

One of the odder twists in the terrible saga of America’s failed Covid-19 response was the way the Trump administration and many U.S. conservatives fell briefly in love with Sweden. Yes, that Sweden, where universal health care is mostly provided directly by the government, where taxes take 44 percent of G.D.P. compared with just 24 percent here, where two-thirds of the work force is unionized.​
Most of the time, in other words, Sweden is an example of everything conservatives hate; its very existence is a rebuttal to their claims that low taxes and harsh treatment of the poor are essential to prosperity.​
But in this year of Covid, Sweden chose a different path from other European countries. Where its neighbors were imposing lockdowns to limit the spread of the coronavirus, Sweden chose to follow a strategy of “herd immunity” — letting the virus spread in the belief that once enough people had been infected and developed antibodies, the pandemic would burn out of its own accord.​
I don’t know enough about Swedish politics and society to know why Swedish authorities were so willing to go their own way, so confident that they understood the pandemic better than anyone else in the world.​
I do know that the U.S. right seized on the Swedish example, because the Swedes were doing what they themselves wanted to do about the coronavirus — nothing.​

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As an aside, this is a familiar pattern in America. By and large, we’re remarkably unwilling to learn from other nation’s policies. But every once in a while people on the U.S. right become infatuated with a small, far away country of which they know nothing whose experience, they believe, confirms their prejudices.​
For example, there was a brief period in the mid-2000s when U.S. conservatives who wanted to privatize Social Security constantly sang the praises of Chile’s retirement system, which they claimed demonstrated just how wonderfully their proposed reforms would work. As it turned out, the Chileans themselves hated the system, which provided very little security, and in 2008 they changed it in ways that made it more like … U.S. Social Security.​
So it was with Sweden’s pandemic response. Conservatives — most notably Dr. Scott Atlas, the not-an-epidemiologist from the Hoover Institution who has become Donald Trump’s main coronavirus adviser — rushed to embrace the Swedish model. Atlas was praising Sweden as recently as late last month.​
Meanwhile, however, the Swedes themselves are tacitly admitting that they made a terrible mistake.
Swedish authorities waved away the country’s experience in the spring, when it suffered far more infections and deaths than its neighbors. Just you wait, they said: we’re developing herd immunity, so we won’t have a second wave in the fall, while our neighbors will.

Then the fall came, and Sweden is in fact having a second wave — much worse than the wave in its neighbors. And on Monday the nation imposed substantial new restrictions on public gatherings, although it’s still balking at a broader lockdown.
Unfortunately, I don’t think the failure of the Swedish model will change many minds here. As some wag put it, the modern U.S. right doesn’t believe in evidence-based policy, it believes in policy-based evidence: seizing on or, if necessary, inventing facts that seem to support what it wants to do anyway. And of course Donald Trump, who will still be president for another two months, never admits to anything inconvenient — up to and including the fact that he lost the election.​
Anyway, conservatives’ love affair with Sweden will be over soon. And then they’ll be able to go back to denouncing what remains a very decent country as one of Europe’s “failed welfare states.”​

Errr... that's fake news. The very same news outlet published this way back in May 2020 so to suggest that Trump heralded Sweden's approach is doing more than just stretching the truth.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...attack-on-sweden-revives-covid-19-controversy

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Trump’s Latest Attack on Sweden Revives Covid-19 Controversy
By Morten Buttler and Nick Rigillo

5-6 minutes


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Donald Trump’s latest verbal attack on Sweden has reignited a debate on whether the country’s relaxed approach to fighting Covid-19 is madness or genius.
The U.S. president, who is facing criticism at home for initially playing down the threat of a pandemic, on Thursday sought to direct attention toward developments in Sweden.

“Despite reports to the contrary, Sweden is paying heavily for its decision not to lockdown,” he tweeted.

Johan Carlson, the director general of Sweden’s public health agency, said Trump’s comments aren’t weighing on his deliberations. “The important thing is that you make sure you keep the disease under control so that the health-care system isn’t overloaded, and so far we’ve managed that,” he said, according to a report in Aftonbladet.
 

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Errrr, tell it to the Swedes. You live in an alternate universe.

https://www.thelocal.se/20201125/today-in-sweden-a-round-up-of-the-latest-news-on-20201125

Today in Sweden: A round-up of the latest news on Wednesday
Catherine Edwards

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25 November 2020
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today in swedenmembership exclusives
Today in Sweden: A round-up of the latest news on Wednesday

A woman on an e-scooter wears a face mask on a wintery Stockholm day, an increasingly common sight. Photo: Fredrik Sandberg / TT
Find out what's going on in Sweden today with The Local's short round-up of the news in less than five minutes.

More people in Sweden buying face masks
More and more people are buying face masks at Swedish pharmacies, reports the TT news agency, despite the country being among the very few in the world that have not issued an official coronavirus recommendation to wear face masks in crowded spaces.
Apotea, Sweden’s largest online pharmacy, sold around 700,000 face masks last week, a huge increase on a few weeks ago, when it sold a weekly average of 80,000-90,000. State-owned Apoteket, the largest pharmacy chain, also told TT that face mask sales increased 139 percent between November 1st and 23rd, compared to the same period in October.
Swedish vocabulary: pharmacy – apotek

'Long Covid' sufferers call for more support in Sweden
More resources are needed for patients with long-term symptoms of Covid-19, according to the Svenska Covidförening, a patients' association with over 1,400 members. The association recently released a report highlighting some of the problems faced by sufferers of the condition known as 'long Covid'.
"It is a huge problem that it is not talked about. There is a great risk that people's perception is that the problem does not exist. And we want to show that it actually does," said chairperson Åsa Kristoferson Hedlund.
She compared the situation in Sweden with that of the UK, where money has been allocated to open dozens of specialist clinics for those with long-term symptoms.
Swedish vocabulary: long-term – långvarig
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You read the articles but I just look at the stats.
 

kiketerm

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You read the articles but I just look at the stats.

Again you are just a deluded person. But keep trying :biggrin:

Latest Cases from Sweden. Ouch So much for whatever it is they were doing. Oh wait...... they now say dont do what we were doing :tongue::tongue::tongue:

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kiketerm

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Errr... that's fake news. The very same news outlet published this way back in May 2020 so to suggest that Trump heralded Sweden's approach is doing more than just stretching the truth.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...attack-on-sweden-revives-covid-19-controversy

bloomberg.com

Trump’s Latest Attack on Sweden Revives Covid-19 Controversy
By Morten Buttler and Nick Rigillo

5-6 minutes


Sign up here for our daily coronavirus newsletter on what you need to know, and subscribe to our Covid-19 podcast for the latest news and analysis.
Donald Trump’s latest verbal attack on Sweden has reignited a debate on whether the country’s relaxed approach to fighting Covid-19 is madness or genius.
The U.S. president, who is facing criticism at home for initially playing down the threat of a pandemic, on Thursday sought to direct attention toward developments in Sweden.

“Despite reports to the contrary, Sweden is paying heavily for its decision not to lockdown,” he tweeted.

Johan Carlson, the director general of Sweden’s public health agency, said Trump’s comments aren’t weighing on his deliberations. “The important thing is that you make sure you keep the disease under control so that the health-care system isn’t overloaded, and so far we’ve managed that,” he said, according to a report in Aftonbladet.

When the King of Sweden says, "Hold on, Hold on" I wonder if it has anything to do with the MASSIVE increase in Cases, ICU intubations, or just the plain old Deaths?

https://royalcentral.co.uk/europe/s...s-swedes-after-upsurge-in-covid-cases-152665/

King Carl XVI Gustaf of Sweden has released a message to the Swedish public encouraging them in the midst of the upsurge in COVID-19 cases in the country.

The King released his message from Drottningholm Palace, where he and Queen Silvia reside. He said: “We must all take our responsibility and continue the joint efforts and efforts to stop the spread of infection. Hold on. Hold on!”

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When the King of Sweden says, "Hold on, Hold on" I wonder if it has anything to do with the MASSIVE increase in Cases, ICU intubations, or just the plain old Deaths?

https://royalcentral.co.uk/europe/s...s-swedes-after-upsurge-in-covid-cases-152665/

King Carl XVI Gustaf of Sweden has released a message to the Swedish public encouraging them in the midst of the upsurge in COVID-19 cases in the country.

The King released his message from Drottningholm Palace, where he and Queen Silvia reside. He said: “We must all take our responsibility and continue the joint efforts and efforts to stop the spread of infection. Hold on. Hold on!”

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The graphs support what I have been saying. No difference between this year and previous years plus clear evidence that Covid-19 is no worse than flu.
 

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Here's the figures for the USA showing that Covid has hardly any impact on the overall mortality rate in each age group.

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Here is Sweden's death statistics up to week 46. As expected no overall increase whatsoever which shows that Covid-19 is no worse than the flu.

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