• IP addresses are NOT logged in this forum so there's no point asking. Please note that this forum is full of homophobes, racists, lunatics, schizophrenics & absolute nut jobs with a smattering of geniuses, Chinese chauvinists, Moderate Muslims and last but not least a couple of "know-it-alls" constantly sprouting their dubious wisdom. If you believe that content generated by unsavory characters might cause you offense PLEASE LEAVE NOW! Sammyboy Admin and Staff are not responsible for your hurt feelings should you choose to read any of the content here.

    The OTHER forum is HERE so please stop asking.

2 hours to spare? Jeff Sachs explains the Middle East

Screenshot 2024-12-17 at 1.22.02 PM.png
 
Screenshot 2024-12-17 at 1.36.43 PM.png



William J. Burns is the current Director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), having been appointed to this role in March 2021 by President Joe Biden. Before this, Burns had a distinguished career in diplomacy, serving as the United States Ambassador to Russia from 2005 to 2008, among other roles.

The phrase "Nyet Means Nyet" ("Nyet" being Russian for "No") comes from a now-famous diplomatic cable Burns wrote in 2008 while he was the U.S. Ambassador to Moscow. This cable, titled "Nyet Means Nyet: Russia's NATO Enlargement Redlines," was a warning to the U.S. government about the implications of NATO's eastward expansion, particularly towards Ukraine and Georgia. Here's a summary of the key points from this cable:

  • NATO Expansion Concerns: Burns conveyed that Russia viewed further NATO expansion, especially into Ukraine, as a direct challenge to its security interests. This was not just an emotional reaction but was based on strategic considerations, including fears of encirclement and the potential destabilization of the region.
  • Potential for Conflict: He highlighted that the divisions within Ukraine over NATO membership could lead to significant internal conflict, potentially even civil war, which would put Russia in a position where it might feel compelled to intervene.
  • Russian Opposition: The cable detailed how Russian officials, including Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, had expressed strong opposition to NATO's moves, describing them as potentially provocative military threats.
  • Long-term Implications: Burns warned that NATO's enlargement was seen by Russia as a continuation of Cold War policies rather than based on contemporary security needs, potentially affecting U.S.-Russian relations negatively.

This cable was made public by WikiLeaks, underscoring the foresight Burns had regarding Russian reactions to NATO's expansion, which later became a focal point in international relations, especially with the onset of the conflict in Ukraine. The "Nyet Means Nyet" memo is often cited in discussions about the geopolitical tensions between Russia and the West, particularly in the context of NATO's role in Eastern Europe.
https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/08MOSCOW265_a.html
https://wimmer.substack.com/p/subject-nyet-means-nyet
 
Donald trump to repair the damage? Wishful thinking.
The West wants middle East and the Arabs dead.
That was why Israel was created.
 
I am more keen to spend 2 hours to read how pap can fix the damages in sg than How Trump can repair America
 
Donald trump to repair the damage? Wishful thinking.
The West wants middle East and the Arabs dead.
That was why Israel was created.
Is that even possible? Israel vs so many surrounding countries.
Doesnt Israel have birthright there?
 
Is that even possible? Israel vs so many surrounding countries.
Doesnt Israel have birthright there?
With the might of US behind it. Plus it gets immunity from every international law unlike the rest.
That birth right was made up as a excuse to have a non Arab nation in the middle Arab world.
 
Of course the most surprising thing about all these is how biden turned into a monster.
When he was VP, he was a meek. Did not know he was silently planning a bloodbath.
Estimate deaths of Ukrainians are about 600k to a million men do far. Exceeds US 50k deaths during Vietnam war. And they still refuse to negotiate and fur ed more men to the front to meet their eventual Fate.
But who knows how that war will end as we found out in the middle East, focused on GAza and lebanon, CIA got a listed terrorist to take over Syria. And now, they may fight with Pentagon backed terrorist all in the name if breaking up that nation into pieces,like they did Yugoslavia.
The aim being to pipe Qatar LNG into Europe through turkey and Syria and thus free Western Europe from Russian gas dependency.
 
Nato expansion or Ukraine's right to self determination? Unfortunately, Ukraine was foolish. Before you stick it to mother Russia, your military gotta turn into a tough mother fucker first.

Jews' resilience needs no intro. It is fight or die. Wealthy Jewish bankroll the Jewish lobby Congressmen in DC. They learnt how to control America to ensure their survival. All this because of Mudslime intolerance and hatred. Mudslimes have only themselves to blame.
 
With the might of US behind it. Plus it gets immunity from every international law unlike the rest.
That birth right was made up as a excuse to have a non Arab nation in the middle Arab world.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine
Occupied by Ottoman and driven out by UK and given back. Mandatory Palestine 1946. Those occupying in Palestine were not wanted by Arabs, kicked out and forgotten. After Israel got to return after WWII and persecution in Europe, suddenly surrounding countries want to kick Israel out.

According to the Green Line agreed upon in the 1949 Armistice Agreements, Israel is demarcated by Lebanon to the north, the Golan Heights under Syrian sovereignty as well as the rest of Syria to the northeast, the Palestinian West Bank and Jordan to the east, and by the Palestinian Gaza Strip and Egypt to the southwest. The Israeli border with Egypt is the international border demarcated in 1906 between the United Kingdom and the Ottoman Empire, and confirmed in the 1979 Egypt–Israel peace treaty; the Israeli border with Jordan is based on the border defined in the 1922 Trans-Jordan memorandum, and confirmed in the 1994 Israel–Jordan peace treaty.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borders_of_Israel#:~:text=According to the Green Line,and Egypt to the southwest

But Arab and surrounding countries attacked Israel 6 days war in 1967 and new agreement with Egypt and Jordan had agreement with Israel isnt it?

The Six-Day War,<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War#cite_note-35"><span>[</span>a<span>]</span></a> also known as the June War, 1967 Arab–Israeli War or Third Arab–Israeli War, was fought between Israel and a coalition of Arab states, primarily Egypt, Syria, and Jordan from 5 to 10 June 1967.
 
Back
Top