$144M of walkway projects won by grassroots family firm

[tanwahtiu]

you are a sick man of Singapore.

There is nothing wrong with a grassroots leader bidding for public projects. Grassroots leaders also need a livelihood. And besides, the tender was won through an open process and not by unfair means. If samsters have evidence that the grassroots leader won his public contracts by dishonest means, please contact CPIB asap.

 

[xpo2015]

Glass loots has its privileges?

 

[JohnTan]

Glass loots has its privileges?

Networking and making friends has its advantages, not privileges. It is the same in school and in the workplace. Why do you think so many people join clan associations, grassroots, church ministry, charitable movement, hobby clubs, school alumni associations?

People also don't pay a ton of cash just to use the swimming pool and golf course at the country clubs.

 

[xebay11]

Networking and making friends has its advantages, not privileges. It is the same in school and in the workplace. Why do you think so many people join clan associations, grassroots, church ministry, charitable movement, hobby clubs, school alumni associations?

People also don't pay a ton of cash just to use the swimming pool and golf course at the country clubs.

So you are preaching networking and guan xi? And hence openly condoning corruption, shouldn't awards be based on ability and meritocracy? Shame shame and you are from grass roots.

 

[JohnTan]

So you are preaching networking and guan xi? And hence openly condoning corruption, shouldn't awards be based on ability and meritocracy? Shame shame and you are from grass roots.

I am not preaching anything. Just telling you the ways of the world, and how successful people climb up the ladder. It takes time and effort to get to know people, communicate well with people and to share with them your ideas. If you are talking just about pure ability, then you are talking like an employee, not a towkay.

Singapore is where it is today because while successful people do network a lot, they also have to prove their worth. Nepotism and guanxi can only carry you so far before your friends and associates find you a burden because you are incompetent. When that happens, they will disavow you and sever working relations with you. Even in the world of guanxi, there's no permanent friends, only permanent interests. And in a developed society like us, no one wants to have permanent interests with someone who depends primarily on bribes and nepotism to get the job all the time.

 

[xebay11]

I am not preaching anything. Just telling you the ways of the world, and how successful people climb up the ladder. It takes time and effort to get to know people, communicate well with people and to share with them your ideas. If you are talking just about pure ability, then you are talking like an employee, not a towkay.

Singapore is where it is today because while successful people do network a lot, they also have to prove their worth. Nepotism and guanxi can only carry you so far before your friends and associates find you a burden because you are incompetent. When that happens, they will disavow you and sever working relations with you. Even in the world of guanxi, there's no permanent friends, only permanent interests. And in a developed society like us, no one wants to have permanent interests with someone who depends primarily on bribes and nepotism to get the job all the time.

Your talk is cheap, we all know how many and who are those who get in the "circle" through connections and networking, and are incompetent but still there and even for those who are seemingly competent, we may never really know if someone out there was actually better but not selected due to not having the proper network, all your points are nothing but just mere rhetoric.

 

[ginfreely]

Not a surprise... Must also do a check on all previous tenders..

LTA awarded the tender to a Taiwanese company CTCI for their DTL 3 and Thomson Line trackworks projects.. CTCI bid was the lowest among all the overseas companies who submitted their tenders to LTA..

Previously it was Alstom who did the Circle Line and DTL 1 and DTL 2 trackworks project.. We know that Alstom is an established name in the international railway industry.. Alstom lost the bid to CTCI for the DTL3 project..

Its a surprise to know that LTA awarded CTCI the contract when the Taiwanese company has no experience at all in the railway industry..

so they have been awarding contract to non established players? No wonder new mrt line also has breakdowns.

 

[laksaboy]

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why Singapore ranks 5th in the list of countries where crony capitalism is rampant.


The countries where politically connected businessmen are most likely to prosper
http://www.economist.com/news/inter...ed-businessmen-are-most-likely-prosper-planet

 

[Leongsam]

I am not preaching anything. Just telling you the ways of the world, and how successful people climb up the ladder. It takes time and effort to get to know people, communicate well with people and to share with them your ideas. If you are talking just about pure ability, then you are talking like an employee, not a towkay.

Singapore is where it is today because while successful people do network a lot, they also have to prove their worth. Nepotism and guanxi can only carry you so far before your friends and associates find you a burden because you are incompetent. When that happens, they will disavow you and sever working relations with you. Even in the world of guanxi, there's no permanent friends, only permanent interests. And in a developed society like us, no one wants to have permanent interests with someone who depends primarily on bribes and nepotism to get the job all the time.

Well said. I have added to your points.

 

[greenies]

I am not preaching anything. Just telling you the ways of the world, and how successful people climb up the ladder. It takes time and effort to get to know people, communicate well with people and to share with them your ideas. If you are talking just about pure ability, then you are talking like an employee, not a towkay.

Singapore is where it is today because while successful people do network a lot, they also have to prove their worth. Nepotism and guanxi can only carry you so far before your friends and associates find you a burden because you are incompetent. When that happens, they will disavow you and sever working relations with you. Even in the world of guanxi, there's no permanent friends, only permanent interests. And in a developed society like us, no one wants to have permanent interests with someone who depends primarily on bribes and nepotism to get the job all the time.

Those higher networking people need to know how to talk, alternatively por Lamar.
After securing something, they outsource it, alternatively hire right people to execute the thing.
May be we give the sweet talking ability high mark.
Note: only sweet talkers can become conmen.
Politicians are high class, businessmen are middle class and street conmen are low class.

 

[eatshitndie]

you pretty much has to be either an arsehole or arselicker to reach the top in the corporate world.

 

[xebay11]

Well said. I have added to your points.

You added points to a boot licker and scum bag, I always thought people joining grass roots was to help other people and residents with no hidden agenda, but you and John Tan are condoning that people should join grass roots to network and ultimately enrich themselves.

 

[eatshitndie]

You added points to a boot licker and scum bag, I always thought people joining grass roots was to help other people and residents with no hidden agenda, but you and John Tan are condoning that people should join grass roots to network and ultimately enrich themselves.

follow goldendragon's mantra of swallowing one's pride and marrying into wealth (with gollum looks). if you marry this lady, you will be filthy rich too.

 

[Narong Wongwan]

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why Singapore ranks 5th in the list of countries where crony capitalism is rampant.


The countries where politically connected businessmen are most likely to prosper
http://www.economist.com/news/inter...ed-businessmen-are-most-likely-prosper-planet

Sinkieland ranked way above China and Thailand hahaha

 

[virus]

Sinkieland ranked way above China and Thailand hahaha

No surprise since the shitknowwhat silver ngs had their internship here eith the lees but Left their Fan boys here. N the execution of cronies in china from past leegime in china prove that there is a need to install new Pai kai leeders to take over turfs.

 

[Leongsam]

but you and John Tan are condoning that people should join grass roots to network and ultimately enrich themselves.

There is nothing wrong with the desire for self improvement for the sake of ones family and for future generations.

Wealth is not a zero sum game. Opportunities are open to all.

 

[3_M]

Many construction bosses join grassroots with the intention of getting gov projects. Often they try to get into gov good book by sponsoring grassroots events and I even heard hougang cc was build FOC by one of them. In return pap awarded them with gov projects with taxpayers' money. This is how the whole system works.

 

[Leongsam]

Many construction bosses join grassroots with the intention of getting gov projects. Often they try to get into gov good book by sponsoring grassroots events and I even heard hougang cc was build FOC by one of them. In return pap awarded them with gov projects with taxpayers' money. This is how the whole system works.

This is how things work in any country. There is nothing wrong with contracts being awarded to companies that are known to government officials and which can be trusted because they have a proven track record of being good corporate citizens.

As for awarding contracts with taxpayer money your remarks do nothing but show how naive you are. ALL government expenditure around the world comes from the taxpayer. That's how countries with tax systems operate. How else to you expect the government to fund infrastructure projects?

 

[neddy]

You added points to a boot licker and scum bag, I always thought people joining grass roots was to help other people and residents with no hidden agenda, but you and John Tan are condoning that people should join grass roots to network and ultimately enrich themselves.

I think there is something seriously wrong with many Sinkies. Just because we join political party, serve in grassroots, do charity work does not mean that we are not out there to serve our own interest as well.

 

[Leongsam]

I think there is something seriously wrong with many Sinkies. Just because we join political party, serve in grassroots, do charity work does not mean that we are not out there to serve our own interest as well.

Yeah as far as these oppo scumbags are concerned, everyone who supports the PAP is utterly selfish and has an ulterior motive no matter what they do

On the other hand opposition party supporters are totally selfless and everything they do and every breath their take is solely for the benefit of others and they stand to gain absolutely nothing.

If you believe opposition crap, you'll also believe the moon is made of green cheese.