1400 premises for GE

[sinren67]

A little red dot needs 1400 premises for a GE. Ironically, we are talking about PRODUCTIVITY! So insulting..


http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1061605/1/.html

Elections Dept identifies 1,400 premises for polling & vote counting
By S Ramesh | Posted: 07 June 2010 1935 hrs

SINGAPORE : Singapore's Elections Department is looking at some [COLOR="_______"]1,400 premises[/COLOR] islandwide for use as polling and counting centres for the next general election and Presidential Election.

Responding to MediaCorp, a spokesman said the department will use mainly community centres, HDB void decks and schools as polling stations.

Some government buildings have also been earmarked for such use. They include the Ministry of Manpower Building, URA Building and Institutes of Technical Education (ITEs).

Meanwhile, nearly 21,500 public officers have been trained as election officers thus far.

The spokesman said 1,000 have been trained as assistant returning officers, 16,500 as presiding officers and 4,000 as counting assistants.

Singapore's next general election is due by February 2012, while the Presidential Election is due by August next year.

- CNA/al

 

[Ramseth]

Simple, the more polling stations, the more opposition candidates are strained for polling agents manpower, logistics etc. They'll of course say, more polling stations are for the convenience of voters.

 

[Watchman]

I want live feed .

I want to see the number jump 1 count when I drop my vote into the box .

I want the public to see who I voted for .

 

[Subok]

The more polling centers will enable the ruling party to have a more accurate breakdown of which precincts supports them more or the other... it is politically motivated at BUT funded officially by the Country.

 

[sinren67]

Simple, the more polling stations, the more opposition candidates are strained for polling agents manpower, logistics etc. They'll of course say, more polling stations are for the convenience of voters.

More NCMPs, more "premises", might as well more MPs since there are now much more new citizens

 

[sinren67]

The more polling centers will enable the ruling party to have a more accurate breakdown of which precincts supports them more or the other... it is politically motivated at BUT funded officially by the Country.

In future, there will be 1 polling station in each hdb block.

 

[manokie]

So the opposition is competing for how many seats???

I hope they at least not give them a majority victory before the polling starts.

 

[Subok]

In future, there will be 1 polling station in each hdb block.

I do not deny that possibility. Currently a few blocks will poll at a nearby school or community center. Maybe in the near future, on pretext of making voting more convenience for each voters a polling box will be placed next to all lift landing of each block!

Our vote is secret and there is no doubt about it. But they will know through rough estimation, "This precinct of Blk 123 - 129, I garnered 40% votes so must 'punish' them!"..

 

[Sideswipe]

how many counting centers are there for GE?

we should open the boxes and count the votes immediately after polls close at 8pm, count the votes at polling centers, not transport the boxes from point A to B.

 

[myfoot123]

Will the counting cheat because opposition parties have not had enough resources to witness the 1400 centers process. Shall we get the international officers to visit Singapore and witness the fairness of the whole election process. I scared, the result announcing officer, after seeing PAP has lost the supports, decided to play punk with the help of LEEgalised approval.

 

[Ramseth]

Opposition, even not contesting all seats, never had full strength polling and counting agents to field in all polling stations and counting centres. Opposition supporters and even neutrals should step forth and volunteer. You'd get to witness the electoral process of your nation. Without enough polling and counting agents, the rise in PAP votes is inadvertible. The Counting Officers won't be so blatant as to count clearly marked opposition votes as PAP votes, for that I'm sure. But at every election, they'd be many disputable votes, e.g. markings cross lines or ambiguous markings instead of proper crosses. Without counting agents, there'd be nobody there to dispute these. You don't have to be a party member to volunteer.

 

[jw5]

Simple, the more polling stations, the more opposition candidates are strained for polling agents manpower, logistics etc. They'll of course say, more polling stations are for the convenience of voters.

In the meantime, they will mobilize as many civil servants as they can, without realizing that these people are supposed to be working for the country and the people and not for the political party.

 

[jw5]

In future, there will be 1 polling station in each hdb block.

Or perhaps a polling station for each HDB unit.
"For your convenience and our monitoring".

 

[Sideswipe]

marked opposition votes as PAP votes, for that I'm sure. But at every election, they'd be many disputable votes, e.g. markings cross lines or ambiguous markings instead of proper crosses. Without counting agents, there'd be nobody there to dispute these. You don't have to be a party member to volunteer.

think u mention u are a opposition counting agent previously.

How many % of disputable votes u reckon averages in a constituency - 0.5%, 1% or 3%?

 

[manokie]

how to sign up as an opposition counting agent?

i want to make a difference to make sure PAP dun hanky panky...

Instead of doing that, why not go do OT at work and give that extra money to the Opposition parties as contribution?

 

[Papsmearer]

I do not deny that possibility. Currently a few blocks will poll at a nearby school or community center. Maybe in the near future, on pretext of making voting more convenience for each voters a polling box will be placed next to all lift landing of each block!

Our vote is secret and there is no doubt about it. But they will know through rough estimation, "This precinct of Blk 123 - 129, I garnered 40% votes so must 'punish' them!"..

Since when is the vote a secret? If I recall, you get a ballot after you show your ic. The ballot has a serial number on it, and they note the serial number when they issue it to you. So, if they want to find out, they can always look for the serial number of the ballot assigned to you, and see how you voted.

 

[Ramseth]

how to sign up as an opposition counting agent?

i want to make a difference to make sure PAP dun hanky panky...

Just contact your favourite party. Contact details are on their websites. If you, or anyone, wish to volunteer for NSP, well, just private message GMS.

However, the standard practice is at least one party member must know you or have met the volunteer before the election. The volunteer can't do it anonymously, must prove Singapore citizenship and age above 21.

 

[jw5]

Since when is the vote a secret? If I recall, you get a ballot after you show your ic. The ballot has a serial number on it, and they note the serial number when they issue it to you. So, if they want to find out, they can always look for the serial number of the ballot assigned to you, and see how you voted.

I'm so tired of the condescending manner in which they talk to the people, that I actually think it's great they know who did not vote for them.

 

[Ramseth]

Since when is the vote a secret? If I recall, you get a ballot after you show your ic. The ballot has a serial number on it, and they note the serial number when they issue it to you. So, if they want to find out, they can always look for the serial number of the ballot assigned to you, and see how you voted.

I'm surprised that even you think this way. The serial number is for counting control, so that no counterfeit ballot paper is slipped the box got counted. The total number of votes must tally with the total number of voters with valid ballot papers. The opposition counting agents have to check this too.

The IC number is of course to identify the voter, so that there're no phantom or double voters. After the results, the ballot papers are reboxed and stored in vault for six months, in case of further disputes arising. After six months, these are incinerated with the stubs with opposition members and helpers are once again invited to witness.

 

[Sideswipe]

Since when is the vote a secret? If I recall, you get a ballot after you show your ic. The ballot has a serial number on it, and they note the serial number when they issue it to you. So, if they want to find out, they can always look for the serial number of the ballot assigned to you, and see how you voted.

after vote counting, all ballot boxes are sealed in the presence of PAP and Oppositions representatives.
( there should be a unique way of sealing the boxes? so that it's very easy to check later if the boxes were tampered with or it's the same boxes )
six months later, PAP and Oppositions reps will check the boxes again, if everything are OK, the boxes are destroyed in their presence.

I wouldn't disagree with anyone who insist PAP have ways of opening the boxes without detection but I think voting is secret.