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Knockoffs Thrive on Alibaba's Taobao
Critics Say Chinese E-Commerce Giant Needs to Do More About Counterfeit Goods
Updated April 28, 2014 12:20 a.m. ET
Can you identify which item is real? Take the quiz.
The Taobao online marketplace, run by Chinese e-commerce giant Alibaba Group Holding Ltd., is one of the world's largest shopping sites, with 7 million sellers offering 800 million items—ranging from Columbia Sportswear, fleece jackets to Dahon folding bicycles.
But there are some hitches: Of the roughly 58,000 folding bikes for sale on Taobao, for instance, up to half are knockoffs or infringe on Dahon's intellectual property, says David Hon, chief executive of the Duarte, Calif., company.
The number of fake Dahons on Taobao has increased 10- to 20-fold in the past two years, Mr. Hon estimates, costing the company a few million dollars in sales each year and forcing it to ramp up its fraud-fighting resources. Dahon now has four full-time staffers and spends about $200,000 a year to monitor and fight counterfeits globally.
"We keep complaining" to Taobao, said Mr. Hon. "The [counterfeiters] stop doing this for a while, and then a few months later, they resurface and open up another store."
Dahon's struggle highlights a big unsolved problem for Taobao operator Alibaba, which is preparing to list in the U.S., in what's expected to be one of the world's largest public offerings ever.
Alibaba says it spends more than 100 million yuan ($16.1 million) yearly fighting counterfeit goods—particularly on Taobao, its biggest shopping site, according to a February report filed with the World Intellectual Property Organization.
In the past year alone, Alibaba removed more than 100 million listings suspected of intellectual-property infringement and partnered with Chinese law enforcement on 77 counterfeit cases, leading to the arrests of 51 criminal groups.
In 2012, such efforts helped get Taobao removed from the U.S. Trade Representative's list of "notorious markets" for counterfeit goods.
Yet some foreign brands and analysts say that fakes remain a serious—and in some cases a growing—problem on Taobao, a virtual bazaar where anyone with an ID can set up shop. The issue could raise awkward questions ahead of Alibaba's $15 billion stock listing in the U.S.
"They will have shareholders who will not want to be associated with a company making its money on counterfeit goods," said Damian Croker, the chief executive of BrandStrike, which monitors fakes for foreign brands on e-commerce sites. Mr. Croker says his clients aren't seeing an improvement in the situation on Taobao.
Alibaba declined to comment for this article, citing its pending IPO. The company's public filings to the USTR and the World Intellectual Property Organization detail the steps it has taken to cut down on counterfeit goods on Taobao.
"Sales of allegedly IPR-infringing goods over the Taobao platform are minimal, and Taobao neither invites nor condones such activity," the company said in a filing to the USTR in September 2012.
Analysts and brands say it is nearly impossible to pin down the scale of the problem on Taobao, due to the massive number of goods for sale and the difficulties of detection and authentication.
Haydn Simpson, a product director at counterfeit-tracker NetNames, said his clients, which range from luxury brands to apparel makers, estimate that 20% to 80% of the products listed as theirs on Taobao are fakes.
Portland-based Columbia Sportswear Co., which makes outdoor apparel, suspects that 32 of the 39 Columbia jackets listed for sale in a search late last year on Taobao were fake, says John Motley, the company's director of intellectual property.
Folding-bike maker Dahon says knockoffs are hurting sales of authentic bikes, above. Dahon
The company has been trying to get the number of counterfeits down for five years, hiring a software firm to scan through listings and photos, hunting for sellers of pirated Columbia goods and then reporting them to Taobao. In the past year, Columbia has gotten 21,311 Taobao listings taken down, Mr. Motley says.
Columbia uses software company MarkMonitor to scour online listings for pictures of clothing that Columbia has never made but that bears the logo. It also looks for listings of quantities of goods that surpass what Columbia has produced or put on the market.
Dahon says that when Taobao sellers post their own photos of bikes, the company can often pick out counterfeits based on subtle differences in the seat or handlebar design. Dahon also uses its investigators to trace products sold on Taobao to their physical store fronts. The investigator may pose as a buyer, wearing a wig to avoid recognition, to gather evidence that can be used in court, said Mr. Hon.
Determining what is genuine is made harder by a culture of knockoffs—dubbed shanzhai, or "mountain stronghold" in Chinese—that run the gamut from complete imitations to playful parodies that look similar to popular brands yet don't claim to be authentic. A recent search on Taobao using the word shanzhai turned up 16,100 items.
In a quiet stall tucked away in a Beijing market with a local and international reputation for selling fakes, 20-year-old Zong Jia shows the backpack and other school supplies that he also sells on Taobao.
"This is the Disney he says, pointing to a tag attached to a Mickey Mouse backpack. The hologram appears only on products that are authentic and come from licensed Disney sellers he finds at wholesale markets in Guangzhou and Shanghai, he says. To show Taobao shoppers his goods are real, Mr. Zong posts photos that detail the size, color, weight and credentials.
Still, one backpack Mr. Zong sells on his Taobao site, featuring Snow White, Cinderella and Sleeping Beauty, is inscribed with the word "Diteyn" on the front, rather than Disney. Mr. Zong said he bought it from a wholesale market in the eastern province of Zhejiang, and doesn't know if the company has the rights to use the characters.
A knockoff Dahon
A Disney spokeswoman said that some of the products sold by Mr. Zong are genuine, but didn't comment on the Diteyn bags.
Alibaba has said in its filings to the USTR that Taobao regularly searches for fake goods through key words, and automatically removes the listings it finds. The platform also partners with brand owners to conduct 30 to 50 campaigns each year to remove fakes from the site. Last year, it started kicking off merchants found to be selling counterfeit goods four times in a calendar year.
Many brands say the efforts aren't enough, and that Taobao is too slow at responding to claims of counterfeit goods.
BSA, a software alliance whose members include Apple, Dell and Microsoft, said in an October filing with the USTR that Taobao's process of removing suspect goods "continues to be inefficient and inconsistently applied, lacking any meaningful deterrence value."
Unlike eBay, which automatically removes listings that brands say are suspect, Taobao may take weeks to investigate problem listings, according to foreign brands and consultants.
Alibaba, in its 2012 USTR filing, said it takes seven to 10 days for Taobao to process takedown requests, and the process can be shorter if the submitter has an "established track record of reliability." In an online presentation that same year to Western companies, Alibaba said it has to be careful about removing listings on Taobao because some brand owners "knowingly make false claims, state false representations, (and) forge authenticity test report(s)." Consumers "knowingly buy some counterfeits and pirated items" on Taobao, Alibaba said.
Two years ago, as guitar-string maker D'Addario grappled with counterfeits on Taobao, Alibaba urged the New York company to open a storefront on Tmall, the e-commerce company's higher-end shopping site where it gets a cut of each transaction. A Tmall store would give Chinese consumers assurance they were getting an authentic product, and mean less business for counterfeiters, D'Addario said it was told.
"They said if you [open a Tmall shop], we'll help you call out the counterfeit products," said CEO Jim D'Addario. "It's been reasonably successful."
Zhang Mingchu, 25, bought an Oil of Olay sunscreen on Taobao last year for 70 yuan, less than half what she'd paid previously at a retail shop.
The package, when it arrived, revealed an identical-looking container to what she'd purchased before, but a cream that was "incredibly stinky,'' she said.
"I immediately threw it away," Ms. Zhang said. "No way I'd put that on my skin."
Since then, Ms. Zhang has stayed away from products offered on Taobao for 50% less than retail, for fear they could be fake.
A spokeswoman for Procter & Gamble Co. PG's Olay suggested that "consumers go to a trusted store with a good reputation" or to P&G's flagship Tmall store to buy Olay products.
Write to Kathy Chu at [email protected] and Laurie Burkitt at [email protected]
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Ah Tiongs are known all over the world for their crimes and all kinds of nonsense. Why is SPF not taking action to haul in this scumbag and jerks like him and pack him off to China? Is he another treasured talent for pappies and sinkie land?
Ya why har???
The 46 Craziest Chinese Counterfeit Products
http://www.ranker.com/list/the-craziest-chinese-counterfeit-goods/robert-wabash
Minors turn to knockoffs
Source: Global Times Published: 2014-4-27 22:28:01
The Huangpu District People's Prosecutor's Office has charged seven minors for selling knockoff products through April 15 this year, the news website eastday.com reported Sunday.
District prosecutors said more young migrant workers have resorted to selling knockoff products in the city because of their lack of education, work experience and willingness to work hard like previous generations of migrants who came to the city.
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Can fake something means they have the brain and ability to reverse engineering anything and make something similar.
Better than evil Westerners and the Brit illegalized opium trades to kill the whole of Asians.
Malaysia Chinese not far behind Ah Tiong fakes and pirated copies many things.
Better than evil Westerners and the Brit illegalized opium trades to kill the whole of Asians.
Malaysia Chinese not far behind Ah Tiong fakes and pirated copies many things.
Three children among six dead after driver with 'marriage problems' rams after-school crowd
Suspect had strapped himself with a petrol can and had a lighter in his hand, reports say
PUBLISHED : Monday, 28 April, 2014, 3:28pm
UPDATED : Monday, 28 April, 2014, 7:25pm
Zhuang Pinghui [email protected]
The suspect's car, according to accounts from Weibo. Photo: Weibo
Three children were among six people killed when a man drove his car into a crowd of schoolchildren and their parents in Fuzhou, police said today.
In addition more than a dozen were injured when Lin Jianxin, who is first believed to have strapped a petrol can to his body, rammed into the group, in Zhuangtou village.
The 37-year-old attempted to flee the scene but was quickly apprehended by police and bundled into a squad car.
He told officers he had been suffering from marriage problems.
The Southeast Express newspaper quoted a source as saying the suspect had petrol in the car and had a lighter in his hand. He was detained by the local anti-bomb squad, the source said.
The suspect is led away to a police car. Photo: Weibo
The victims included children who were on their way home from school. Several reportedly died after being rushed to the Minhou County No 2 Hospital.
An internet user named Aling claimed three members of a single family had been killed, with only one surviving.
The injured were sent to a hospital in Fuzhou, the capital of Fujian province.
The driver was reportedly upset that his wife wanted to divorce him, the Express cited the source as saying.
Onlookers are cordoned off by police at the scene of the crash. Photo: Weibo
Pictures posted by People’s Daily on its microblog showed a man dressed in black being taken into a police car.
A severely damaged light-brown car was seen parked in an open area, with crowds kept away by a police cordon.
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