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Cock-Up SAF

TeeKee

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The SAF has recently issued new camouflage No 4 uniforms to many units. My son's unit was one of those issued with the new No4. But because of admin cock-up, my son's name was left out of the nominal roll and he was not issued the new No4.

His supervisor, a nice person, said that as he is going ORD soon, he doesnt get priority and to bear with it.

But at the recent Army Open House, he was scheduled for duties. And at the AOH briefing, he was told that all participants at the Army Open House must be in new No4. He highlighted his problem...that he doesnt have new No4. The organisers told him to, by hook or by crook, be dressed in the new No4.

He tried the e-mart, he tried Beach Road..but none were available as there is an all round shortage. There is just no new No4 available if he is not issued

It's instances like that that often frustrate NSFs and NSmen.

Can the SAF wake up?

Dear Sir

1. MINDEF has received your email dated 14 Sep 2009.

2. To facilitate MINDEF in addressing your feedback, we would appreciate it if you can furnish us with your full name and mailing address, as well as your son's full name and NRIC number.

3. Thank you and regards.


Your sincerely


MS TING SU YIE
for PERMANENT SECRETARY
MINISTRY OF DEFENCE
[email protected]
 

breakingfree

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hahaha. very true

but is this a professional army that SAF tries to project?

Bro/Mdm, It is quite obvious u never enroll for NS duty before. A real army force/teaches u to be resourceful and pro-active. So that they can implement what they "learnt" in a harsh environement and survive. It is becos of accumulation of such complaints over the years, the army backdown and implement several "friendly" policies such as aircon bunk etc to preserve their image.
Now look what kind of army we hav?? All those sissies who complain abt every small little things, cant exercise their brains to solve little issue, waiting to be spoonfeed etc.
So pls stop this kind of complaints pls. It will only deteriorate our army further and make our "neighbours" happy. And pls let ur son a chance to be a man, let him handle his own issue. Reasonable demands will make him like any other average guy. unreasonable demands will train him to think out of the box.
 

ckmpd

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Bro/Mdm, It is quite obvious u never enroll for NS duty before. A real army force/teaches u to be resourceful and pro-active. So that they can implement what they "learnt" in a harsh environement and survive. It is becos of accumulation of such complaints over the years, the army backdown and implement several "friendly" policies such as aircon bunk etc to preserve their image.
Now look what kind of army we hav?? All those sissies who complain abt every small little things, cant exercise their brains to solve little issue, waiting to be spoonfeed etc.
So pls stop this kind of complaints pls. It will only deteriorate our army further and make our "neighbours" happy. And pls let ur son a chance to be a man, let him handle his own issue. Reasonable demands will make him like any other average guy. unreasonable demands will train him to think out of the box.

you have been brainwashed by the pap. the pap wants NSFs as cheap labour.

I totally disagree with what you said. what i have seen abt NS is that it has cut off the balls of SG guys. SG guys are gutless and balless because of NS.

USA, Aus, etc dont have conscription and are the American and Aussie males less capable than SG guys. In fact the contrary is true. SG guys are less capable and less innovative than US and Aussie guys/ and i blame it on NS on the Sg guys' psyche. NS is killing SG guys
 

ckmpd

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Dear Sir

1. MINDEF has received your email dated 14 Sep 2009.

2. To facilitate MINDEF in addressing your feedback, we would appreciate it if you can furnish us with your full name and mailing address, as well as your son's full name and NRIC number.

3. Thank you and regards.


Your sincerely


MS TING SU YIE
for PERMANENT SECRETARY
MINISTRY OF DEFENCE
[email protected]

Thanks..appreciate it:-)
 

breakingfree

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you have been brainwashed by the pap. the pap wants NSFs as cheap labour.

I totally disagree with what you said. what i have seen abt NS is that it has cut off the balls of SG guys. SG guys are gutless and balless because of NS.

USA, Aus, etc dont have conscription and are the American and Aussie males less capable than SG guys. In fact the contrary is true. SG guys are less capable and less innovative than US and Aussie guys/ and i blame it on NS on the Sg guys' psyche. NS is killing SG guys

Sorry to disappoint you, but i am a neutral party offering my 2cents worth of view. It is not the NS that make SG guys balless, it is the culture and environment of Sillypore cultivated for so long under u know who. If u compare the ARMY and the whole of Sillypore, dont u see the similarity ?? Looks good only on paper, a big wayang show.
NS by itself is good. It trains u to be a REAL MAN, to think not only for urself but also ur comrades. But alas...our NS scheme has degraded so much due to the culture of sillypore.
The countries u named indeed hav lots of capable guys...it is becos their environment and culture are different. They hav learnt to be independent since quite young. For us, 1 of the rare chance the kids learn to be independent is in NS. Think abt it.
So pls let ur kid a chance to learn, let him think of a solution himself.
 

avatar67

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so did you reply to mindef yet? Maybe good to let them know so they can look into it and straight away get the new uniform for your son.
 

scroobal

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Actually your post also reflects poorly on your own son. When I attended NS, I don't even tell my parents 99% of things that happen. You just get on with it and take the shortcuts that are necessary.

Its a bloody uniform and the event is only one day. If he has made friends, he might be able to get hold of one. I am sure when he starts working, he is not going to take you along.

These kind of things are found in the corporate workplace all the time. One must exercise initiative and boldness if not one is just a general clerk.

you have been brainwashed by the pap. the pap wants NSFs as cheap labour.

I totally disagree with what you said. what i have seen abt NS is that it has cut off the balls of SG guys. SG guys are gutless and balless because of NS.

USA, Aus, etc dont have conscription and are the American and Aussie males less capable than SG guys. In fact the contrary is true. SG guys are less capable and less innovative than US and Aussie guys/ and i blame it on NS on the Sg guys' psyche. NS is killing SG guys
 

angry_one

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The ancient spartan trainees are forced to survive in the wild and steal food. If they are caught their officer will beat them up. Why? To force them to be resourceful and cunning. My point is:

There are so many easy solutions for your son, mentioned by the replies here. Report sick, borrow a uniform, wear the old uniform and heck care. I hate NS and don't want my sons to ever do it, but the issue here is DEALING WITH SMALL PROBLEMS.

In fact, your son/brother should be taking care of this minor problem himself! How to deal with LIFE?

Mama mama, my boss is rude to me. Go scold him for me.

Mama mama, i want a girlfriend. Find for me.

Mama mama, how to put my dick into her hole?
 

musashi

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The SAF has recently issued new camouflage No 4 uniforms to many units. My son's unit was one of those issued with the new No4. But because of admin cock-up, my son's name was left out of the nominal roll and he was not issued the new No4.

His supervisor, a nice person, said that as he is going ORD soon, he doesnt get priority and to bear with it.
Dear @ckmpd, may I ask, is your beloved son still alive and in good health? :unsure: :tongue:
 

greedy and cunning

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:biggrin:everybody that goes tru NS know SAF is all wayang and bullshit..

the top open their CB mouth, the bottom does all the dirty work..

professional my foot..:biggrin:

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congo9

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Sometimes in work or in SAF. They expect you to get the job done with or without resources. SAF is a big organisation. It's normal to get cock up here and there.

Either you say you don't have uniform and can't perform the duty or you can borrow the uniform from your other mates.

No point complaining. It's how the world works. Singaporean is really too spoilt. No wonder PAP keep winning the election and they keep suing and defaming the opposition at the slightest chance without any remorse. Stupid Singaporean keep giving the votes to PAP and PAP keep on screwing Singaporean at any given chance with CPF,foreign talent scheme ...daily increased ,abuse of court and Palimentary power.
 

congo9

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Actually your post also reflects poorly on your own son. When I attended NS, I don't even tell my parents 99% of things that happen. You just get on with it and take the shortcuts that are necessary.

Its a bloody uniform and the event is only one day. If he has made friends, he might be able to get hold of one. I am sure when he starts working, he is not going to take you along.

These kind of things are found in the corporate workplace all the time. One must exercise initiative and boldness if not one is just a general clerk.
You are damn right. Why bother with a uniform? Ask your son to grow some brain and exercise some initiative to get things done.
 

musashi

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What you may like to worry is these spoilt brat scholar commanders are going to be your son's employers next time... in banks, elsewhere in the private sector... hahhahaa....
nahh. you are wrong. my son, unlike you, has choices. he is not going to work for what you called "scholar commanders". in fact, they may work for my son in civilian life. hahaha.
Dear @ckmpd again, may I ask, if your beloved son is still alive and in good health, does that mean that his "balls" are among the rare pairs that have not been "cut off" by NS? :unsure: :tongue:
what i have seen abt NS is that it has cut off the balls of SG guys. SG guys are gutless and balless because of NS.

USA, Aus, etc dont have conscription and are the American and Aussie males less capable than SG guys. In fact the contrary is true. SG guys are less capable and less innovative than US and Aussie guys/ and i blame it on NS on the Sg guys' psyche. NS is killing SG guys
I'm quite confused! :confused:
 

nayr69sg

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Aiyah ckmpd also said she was going to sue PAP for the Malay president thing. Where got sue?

All talk big only.
 
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