Beware Little Blue Riding Hooks! Here comes the Big Bad GMS!

[Ramseth]

Don't pay any attention to Goh Meng Seng's poison pen remarks. He is now accusing WP people of knowing about YSL womanizing all along, and covering up so as to avoid looking bad on themselves. Who is he is insert fore-knowledge into the minds and mouths of people? That chap left WP in 2006, yet act as if he was a party insider all the way until 2011. Ridiculous!

Whether WP people really knew about YSL's habits, its unfair to prejudge unless the party members themselves admit in their own names. Besides, even if you suspect something is going on, would you consider it gentlemanly to go around accusing your friend and colleague of womanizing? Its a serious charge in itself, given that YSL is a married man (if he was single, still OK).

If I suspect GMS had sex with a Macau prostitute, does it give me the right to go around warning NSP members not to field GMS in elections because he is suspected to be a womanizer? Yet GMS is suggesting that WP members ought to have done the same to YSL, on the basis of suspicions, hunches and speculations.

Good posting. There're people who knew or at least had a whiff of it. Come on, commonsense, how could paper cover fire for long? There'd be surely members who're astute and observant enough to be aware, including his late brother. Banging on the doors of members who were aware or half-aware but didn't blow the whistle cuts no ice, like you've so eloquently put it. How to blow whistle in such a private affair situation? Why didn't he ask his brother to do it?

I have nothing against GMS questioning the integrity and behavior of YSL. That WP has dealt with already. GMS problem is now he's accusing the whole party.

 

[Ramseth]

Anyway YSL was not expelled for womanizing. He was expelled for not coming clean at the appropriate time. It is clearly the fault of YSL not knowing when it is a crisis situation that calls for immediate action even if it is highly embarrassing.

Once again, I can understand why YSL chose to runaway. It's because the woman is married. Bad permutation of matters, but life's like that with ups and downs.

 

[wikiphile]

Good posting. There're people who knew or at least had a whiff of it. Come on, commonsense, how could paper cover fire for long? There'd be surely members who're astute and observant enough to be aware, including his late brother. Banging on the doors of members who were aware or half-aware but didn't blow the whistle cuts no ice, like you've so eloquently put it. How to blow whistle in such a private affair situation? Why didn't he ask his brother to do it?

I have nothing against GMS questioning the integrity and behavior of YSL. That WP has dealt with already. GMS problem is now he's accusing the whole party.

The very same party which he had to leave, please don't tell me there is no animosity between him and WP. He has no problems with the 'insects' in his very own NSP. At this point it is impossible for me to picture him and WP people cuddling and playing with lions and tigers on a verdant meadow under a bright cheery sun

 

[Bigfuck]

What's wrong with womanizing? It's a favorite hobby of men. It's my favorite hobby too. If men don't womanize, then I worry. If men don't womanize, even women should worry. Yaw's problem is that he got caught and worse, with another man's wife. That part about another man's wife, I can't support him too. But he's been expelled for that, what the hell more do you want? Piggy basket in the river?

If man no like to fuck and talk sweet nothings to women, no babies get made, and population don't. Only if men think horny then go hope for next generation.

 

[Goh Meng Seng]

Well, with people like Ramseth who really thinks nothing wrong with womanizing in WP, who needs enemies for WP?

I have not accused the "whole" WP, don't try to put words into my mouth. I am simply saying there are people who are in the know and was able to do something about it but they chose to keep quiet. That breeds complacency in YSL. For me, I know AT LEAST TWO WP members who knew about YSL's behaviour, apart from those women whom he was flirting with. Keeping silence will only make you the accomplice of the whole saga. That's all I am saying.

Big Bad Wolf Goh Meng Seng

 

[BlueWave]

ah pui,

the 2 wp members u mentioned is none other than ramseth and your late brother. ramseth he himself admitted he knew. your late brother sure will rat any wp issues to u.

 

[Perspective]

It now asserts that WP members have kept Yaw's personality under wraps. At the start of Yaw's episode, it was saying something very different/opposite - which was that Yaw was sabotaged by WP members.

At the end of the day, it still doesn't understand that no one has been attacking it - everyone is just using its own words against itself. It is its own "wolf", in reality. But it still doesn't realise and self-masturbates with enjoyment of the imaginary "attacks" and "attention".

And I think forummers bothered to point out its flip-flopping, of which this is the XXX umpteenth one, because these get on people's nerves (if this admission glees it) because they are so blatant - never seen one so proud to show how much of a liar and snake it is and scared people don't know how dishonest it is, must blare it loud-loud.

 

[BlueWave]

It now asserts that WP members have kept Yaw's personality under wraps. At the start of Yaw's episode, it was saying something very different/opposite - which was that Yaw was sabotaged by WP members.

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there is still room for that fat insect to do its twisting and turning of this story. it will say that some wp members knew about ysl's episode but keep it under wraps. then there were other wp members who spilled the beans and stab ysl's back.

that fat insect is very cunning you know.

 

[Ramseth]

Well, with people like Ramseth who really thinks nothing wrong with womanizing in WP, who needs enemies for WP?

I have not accused the "whole" WP, don't try to put words into my mouth. I am simply saying there are people who are in the know and was able to do something about it but they chose to keep quiet. That breeds complacency in YSL. For me, I know AT LEAST TWO WP members who knew about YSL's behaviour, apart from those women whom he was flirting with. Keeping silence will only make you the accomplice of the whole saga. That's all I am saying.

Big Bad Wolf Goh Meng Seng

Add me to your list if I'm not already one of them on it. At least three of us (the three musketeers you know who) knew it years ago. Keeping silent isn't accomplice or abetment unless it's a crime. It's a private affair, what's a man to do? Behave like a chicken auntie （鸡婆） and start talking around? To do that, we'd lose all friendship and gentlemanliness. It's up to them and their fate. Anything going wrong, can't blame others. We're not his moral parents or nannies. Especially you uninvolved, no right to blame any. Let the party settle at party level, let the government settle at government level and let them settle at personal level. What's the point in your jumping up and down when there's nothing to concern you? You're just manifest 幸灾乐祸，落井下石。

 

[Perspective]

it will say that some wp members knew about ysl's episode but keep it under wraps. then there were other wp members who spilled the beans and stab ysl's back.

I thought about that too. But the issue is - it is criticising both. Those who keep under wraps are unethical, those who spilled the beans were the "WP insects" it originally mentioned that the WP leadership should beware of.

So now what? If keep wraps wrong, don't keep wraps wrong, then what? Half wrap?

This would be anti-WP for anti-WP sake. But when we say it is WP-bashing, it not agree also.

 

[Sadist]

Lame excuses and twisted logic given by the WP crowd will only dug a bigger hole for WP. Many still don't get it.

 

[GoldenDragon]

If anyone here thinks that ISD didn't know YSL's womanizing hobby prior to GE2011 or even prior to GE2006, they are really naive and dead wrong. They just didn't detonate the bomb until he got elected, maximize damage on him and WP. YSL fell and didn't even know what hit him. He was allowed to carry on his ways without disruptions until they need to make use of him and his scandals to extract maximize damage. He thought he could fool it all, fool everybody, even ISD. He is dead wrong, seriously dead wrong. He thought his use of emotional attachment with the women he had, they won't betray him. He is dead wrong again.
Goh Meng Seng

Have you ever wondered what is ISD's main role? To check on the opposition? Afraid of foreign interference as a justification for their covert involvement? Using tax payers' money to prolong the existence of the MIW?

Sure, ISD is fully aware of Yaw's ECA. You seriously think they blew this up? I doubt so. If blowing this up leads them to winning back Hougang, fair enough. Surely they never expected WP to sack YSL. In addition, they have enough of their own scandals to worry about. Why blow Yaw's case up when there they themselves have shit in their own party?

One theory I was told was the need to blow YSL's case to divert attention away from PL and NBG. I don't buy that.

 

[Thick Face Black Heart]

Add me to your list if I'm not already one of them on it. At least three of us (the three musketeers you know who) knew it years ago. Keeping silent isn't accomplice or abetment unless it's a crime. It's a private affair, what's a man to do? Behave like a chicken auntie （鸡婆） and start talking around? To do that, we'd lose all friendship and gentlemanliness. It's up to them and their fate. Anything going wrong, can't blame others. We're not his moral parents or nannies. Especially you uninvolved, no right to blame any. Let the party settle at party level, let the government settle at government level and let them settle at personal level. What's the point in your jumping up and down when there's nothing to concern you? You're just manifest 幸灾乐祸，落井下石。

You're a narcissist yourself (recently overtaken by GMS). But agree with your point. Even if you knew years ago, does it give you the right to gossip, crucify, and speak behind your colleague's back?

GMS is now accusing people like you of withholding vital info and allowing YSL to become MP. Was it your decision to install YSL as MP? What right has GMS got to pre-judge matters of people's private lives and private friendships and claim the moral high ground? It's mad!!!!!!!!

 

[Perspective]

"Lame excuses and twisted logic" and "still don't get it" is another unwitting description of itself.

It could start by answering some questions that it has avoided, eg Scroobal's question to it to name some PAP MPs with no integrity, rather than keep siaming.

 

[Ramseth]

Sure, ISD is fully aware of Yaw's ECA. You seriously think they blew this up? I doubt so. If blowing this up leads them to winning back Hougang, fair enough. Surely they never expected WP to sack YSL. In addition, they have enough of their own scandals to worry about. Why blow Yaw's case up when there they themselves have shit in their own party?

Good observation. Our old police training didn't count for nothing. PAP and ISD have been grinning but said next to nothing about YSL until WP expelled him and served notice to Speaker of Parliament, then they panicked and arrowed it to Court. If you've been to Hougang recently, the grounds are solid WP regardless of which candidate WP is going to field next. The only one left jumping up and down, screaming and shouting over much ado about nothing, is you know who.

 

[GoldenDragon]

Good observation. Our old police training didn't count for nothing. PAP and ISD have been grinning but said next to nothing about YSL until WP expelled him and served notice to Speaker of Parliament, then they panicked and arrowed it to Court. If you've been to Hougang recently, the grounds are solid WP regardless of which candidate WP is going to field next. The only one left jumping up and down, screaming and shouting over much ado about nothing, is you know who.

If MIW wanted to blow YSL's ECA, they would have done so during GE to 'level' the field after one of their own withdrew at the last second. No need to wait till months later when there is no mileage to be gained.

 

[Ramseth]

If MIW wanted to blow YSL's ECA, they would have done so during GE to 'level' the field after one of their own withdrew at the last second. No need to wait till months later when there is no mileage to be gained.

What PAP wants is a disreputed opposition MP in Parliament to help degrade oppositon image in next GE. What PAP doesn't want is a sure-lose BE. The math is clear. WP now has 5 MPs instead of 6. Calling BE will restore WP to 6 and add more embarrassment to PAP.

 

[jw5]

The very same party which he had to leave, please don't tell me there is no animosity between him and WP. He has no problems with the 'insects' in his very own NSP.

It could be that when he joins the third party, the issues with the second party may surface.
Especially if the second party wins seats.
Akan datang.

 

[zeddy]

Take me as the Big Bad Wolf GMS roaming around to catch the Little Blue Riding Hooks. Go and warn your Little Blue Riding Hooks WP MPs to be careful and not make any mistakes which Big Bad Wolf GMS will pounce upon!

Goh Meng Seng

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[GoldenDragon]

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GMS: GD said I am a paid agent. He is absolutely correct.