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Its my money, why can't i have it?

makapaaa

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Heng ah! Still thot u're toking bad abt me again! *hee*hee*
 

masgnoeL

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The question is does one's deposits belongs to the bank when they are said to be senile.:confused:

If found senile, you are as good as dead. If you have made a will, then when you are really dead, the probate decides.
If you did not make a will, then it goes intestate and distributed accordingly.

Meanwhile, you will continue to accumulate interest on your account.

If no one contest, it will remain this way. The money still does not belong to the bank, but you cannot take it out unless instructions come from a court. I think very likely, the court will appoint a custodian to manage your affairs.

So, someone is right. The lawyers will alligator it if not careful. Lawyers are known to screw up your affairs but interestingly, they always screw it up in such a way that you need them to resolve it and so they will be able to derive fees from your dilemma. :biggrin:
 

masgnoeL

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Look here! I not 91 year old yet and I do not have an adopted daughter but a capable daughter-in-law. *hee*hee*
 

Kid278

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Senile dementia could just be an excuse used by the bank. But if its proven that she is in a right state of mind to withdraw the money, then the bank should return her

Concurred, but I believe banks has no rights to hold on to one's money, senile or not. The money just dont belong to the bank, it has to be returned. Or to one's estate if demised.:p
 

Kid278

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If found senile, you are as good as dead. If you have made a will, then when you are really dead, the probate decides.
If you did not make a will, then it goes intestate and distributed accordingly.

Meanwhile, you will continue to accumulate interest on your account.

If no one contest, it will remain this way. The money still does not belong to the bank, but you cannot take it out unless instructions come from a court. I think very likely, the court will appoint a custodian to manage your affairs.

So, someone is right. The lawyers will alligator it if not careful. Lawyers are known to screw up your affairs but interestingly, they always screw it up in such a way that you need them to resolve it and so they will be able to derive fees from your dilemma. :biggrin:

A person can become senile from diseases, it can happen suddenly and without one expecting it let alone making a will. Concurred, the money doesnt belong to the bank and has to be returned one way or another. It is just very sad and unfortunate that to withdraw one's own money one has to go through such hassling.:p
 

Kid278

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So which is more dangerous? A senile holding other people's money or the bank holding money from the senile? :p

The sad truth is a senile holding people's money and the bank. No bank is holding from a senile or is able for that matter. Until his demise and his people are out, the monopoly remains.:p
 

Dan Now

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In March, Madam Hwang was seen by a psychiatrist of 30 years' experience, who assessed her to be fit to make a will despite mild dementia.

Well, she is fit to make a will and and have done her check in March.

So let's say that the old women was checked again and she is found fit, would OCBC have to foot all the legal and medical examination bills including compensation for causing distress to the old lady and her step daughter ?

OCBC is cleary using bullying tactics here. Going by the recent tresspass of DBS banks and how it has misrepresented its sales and MAS playing meek and acting blur, our banks have now a freehand to do whatever it please.

This is a dangerous precedent which have implications which affects all the elderly account holders in every bank. If this case fly and OCBC wins, can it then, do that to every single senior account holder ?

Dan
 

Devil Within

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The bank, which said it has doubts about her mental capacity to manage her financial affairs independently, froze her account despite her repeated instructions to take out her money.

WTF! Since when did the Banks start to behave like our CPF board? :confused:
 
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silverfox@

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Concurred, but I believe banks has no rights to hold on to one's money, senile or not. The money just dont belong to the bank, it has to be returned. Or to one's estate if demised.:p

There are cases where the children purposely on pretext of their old aged parent's senile condition request for the money to be withdrawn and after getting their hands on the money, throw the old parents away like a ball.

And if the old parents regain consciousness, meaning to say when they start to not be senile, they can sue the bank as to why the money were released while they are not in a conscious state of mind.

No money, no problem. Have money, have problem. That is why certain laws on banking has to be in place for such controversial situations.
 

Kid278

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OCBC is cleary using bullying tactics here. Going by the recent tresspass of DBS banks and how it has misrepresented its sales and MAS playing meek and acting blur, our banks have now a freehand to do whatever it please.

This is a dangerous precedent which have implications which affects all the elderly account holders in every bank. If this case fly and OCBC wins, can it then, do that to every single senior account holder ?

Dan

Couldnt agree more with you. The banking and financial institutions needs to be challenge and publicise, it has no rights to a freehand. If indeed OCBC were to win this case, it will definitely set precedence for others to follow. We are looking at dangers never seen before, it affects everyone, the old now and us, we'll grow old too. And nobody knows when one will become senile or when they'll say one is senile.:p
 

Conan the Barbarian

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There are cases where the children purposely on pretext of their old aged parent's senile condition request for the money to be withdrawn and after getting their hands on the money, throw the old parents away like a ball.

And if the old parents regain consciousness, meaning to say when they start to not be senile, they can sue the bank as to why the money were released while they are not in a conscious state of mind.

No money, no problem. Have money, have problem. That is why certain laws on banking has to be in place for such controversial situations.

Agree, highly suspicious. The adopted daughter would not need to get her to withdraw if she has already made her will.

Put it another way. Will she be so concern about her adopted mother if she did not have $9 mil?:smile:
 

Kid278

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There are cases where the children purposely on pretext of their old aged parent's senile condition request for the money to be withdrawn and after getting their hands on the money, throw the old parents away like a ball.

And if the old parents regain consciousness, meaning to say when they start to not be senile, they can sue the bank as to why the money were released while they are not in a conscious state of mind.

No money, no problem. Have money, have problem. That is why certain laws on banking has to be in place for such controversial situations.

True, where you are coming from is about abuse but abuse go both ways. The bank should seek immunity rather than denying one's right to their own money. I believe banks had such immunity, it must not be allow to judge when not to release one's money.:p
 

sherrry

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OCBC is hard-up for cash flow now, so frozen means "You can see but cannot touch".

OCBC also give nice excuse, learned from LEE KUAN YEW.

Bank account owner must be given full rights unreservedly to do whatever they wish to.

Looks like I'm going to keep my cash under my pillow.
There's only very few ways to see things;
  • you can see but you can't touch (personal savings)
  • now you see it, now you don't (CPF & TC funds *poof*)
  • you can't touch this (CPF)
Such is the way that our very people minded governance is enforcing, in name sake "for our own good"
 

sherrry

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WTF! Since when did the Banks start to behave like our CPF board? :confused:
Banks interfering with our lives, determining whether or not we deserve our $. CPF interfering with our lives, determining when we deserve to retire. That is what 66.6% of the voters chose, a people minded governance.
 

ahleebabasingaporethief

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OCBC say she senile.

Any lawyers here care to comment.

I thought this country is you die your own business. If she really senile, withdraws the $9.2m and gets cheated by her relatives, is it really the bank's business?
I find this case really funny.

During the 1997 ASIAN Financial Crisis, I heard a similar story when an Indon man wanted to withdraw several million in cash, he was told to come back the next day as the MAS needed to be notified first.

He was so furious because he was travelling the same night that he and several of his Indon kakis decided to trasfer huge chunks of money out of Singapore to HK's banks.

Again why are our banks doing such things? Any laywers here care to comment. Thought we a leading financial center. I am confused.

I do not doubt our banks' liquidity but why such strange rules and laws?
 
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