$20K reached, thank you!

[tonychat]

I sent the link from the donation article to some of my colleagues and all of them immediately reacted with laughter and thinks its a joke. Therein lies Chee's biggest problem. SDP doesn't get it. They didn't get it when CSJ first took over and they still don't get it now. Who are the pple really supporting SDP? Pple who hate PAP. Most pple in SG do not like trouble makers and that is exactly how they many see CSJ, a trouble maker. He isn't going to win more votes by making headline news with his constant antics. Most pple who like stunts like this are pple who hate PAP and will vote for him whether or not he does anything. However the pple whom he really need to win over are those that do not like to see antics like these from their politicians. Little wonder how SDP manages to lose even more votes every election.

IMO the best thing he could do is to distant himself from any political party and continue doing whatever he is do. It creates awareness however it also damages the image of the political party associated with him. By going independant and not associate himself with any political party, he is on the one hand creating awareness among locals and at the same time not destroying the image of the opposition party

PAP loser, you think too much. I am looking forward to see SDP kick PAP's ass. Then we will see who gets the last laugh.

 

[tonychat]

hahaha....how ah?
I was planning to donate $866,558......can I still donate or the account has been closed already????

please keep your money and your mouth shut, that looks so much better on you.

 

[Forvendet]

PAP loser, you think too much. I am looking forward to see SDP kick PAP's ass. Then we will see who gets the last laugh.

Kick what ass by averaging 20% votes?

 

[tonychat]

What you have said are things I have been saying for a long time and really geting very tired of saying.

Now, I just want to know who are those that donate the money so that I can give them an award for donting money back to PAP.

Talk about dumb idiots.

I think you sound smarter when you keep your mouth shut and not make so much noise. People who are smart knows what they are doing than to listen to you. you have to accept this fact.

 

[Perspective]

Regrettably, opposition politics is still young in SG and admittedly fractured. Ultimately, the people would like to vote for a united opposition, which should carry out the people's agenda against the exploitative PAP.

But extrapolating from the ideal of a united opposition, what then is stopping people from getting a Hobson's choice when there is hardly any difference on the surface between the two but just the "flavour-of-the-season" political agenda during election time? (e.g. Democrats/Republicans. Liberals/Labor, Tories/Labour).

So, to me, for now, for the sake of a people's voice in Parliament, so long as got no 3-cornered fights, slipperman or Harbans Singhs, the oppos will have my vote.

I used to think that way, but people are forming parties with 2 candidates, 3 candidates etc or breaking up e.g. SDA vs SPP (when they are supposed to be one!).

Now, I no longer hold the view and would consider spoiling my vote. It depends on comfort level with opposition candidates because I will not vote PAP. I would hesitate to vote for SDA and its components (even Chiam) and RP. Personally I have no issue with SF but they should have joined a bigger party and I would hesitate to vote for them too. Generally ok with WP and NSP. For SDP I will see who comes to my ward.

 

[tonychat]

This is how i would vote:

PAP vs Any Opposition - I would vote Opposition.

PAP vs SDP - I would vote PAP

PAP vs SDP vs any Opposition - I will spolit my vote.

During election, you can just jump down from westin hotel and we will have some entertainment from you. That will make yourself much useful than talk rubbish in this forum.

 

[Forvendet]

Generally ok with WP and NSP. For SDP I will see who comes to my ward.

I have no problem with NSP until that madman GMS joined. It's obvious, isn't it? He's classically one of those you said in your previous posting who must be party leader and Indian chief. His ego and personal cause override whatever national cause that he's pretending to fight for. Now he's supposedly fighting for Malays. Oh please! I'll vote PAP if I live in Tampines. Not that I support PAP, but a reverse protest vote against NSP for catering to such a madman.

 

[cleareyes]

Why would you spoil your vote for
PAP vs SDP vs any opposition?

Doesn't make sense considering your first 2 decisions.

because the chance of PAP losing in a 3-corner fight is remote seriuosly, my vote will never go to SDP.

 

[cleareyes]

PAP loser, you think too much. I am looking forward to see SDP kick PAP's ass. Then we will see who gets the last laugh.

Dream on....................

 

[cleareyes]

I think you sound smarter when you keep your mouth shut and not make so much noise. People who are smart knows what they are doing than to listen to you. you have to accept this fact.

You claim to support democracy and yet you deny the rights of others for freedom of expression

is that how SDP really works?

So actually SDP is not Singapore Democratic Party but Singapore Domination Party?

 

[Forvendet]

I'll vote PAP if NSP or SDP or SF stand in my ward.

Protest vote against madmen like GMS, CSJ and CTL. :oIo:

 

[cleareyes]

During election, you can just jump down from westin hotel and we will have some entertainment from you. That will make yourself much useful than talk rubbish in this forum.

During election, i would sit back and count how low the turnout for SDP rallies.

I usually thought PAP is pathetic, but now i beg to differ.

 

[cleareyes]

Regrettably, opposition politics is still young in SG and admittedly fractured. Ultimately, the people would like to vote for a united opposition, which should carry out the people's agenda against the exploitative PAP.

The idea of a united opposition, though good for Singapore, would not appear till the GRC policy is broken. As of now, too many egos and Indian chiefs. Everyone wants to be king, unitred will become disunited very soon and PAP will benefit outright from it.

The present situation of multi-parties contesting in as many wards as possible and stretching PAP's resources would have to do.

3 Corner fights is best ignored and avoided.

 

[Forvendet]

The idea of a united opposition, though good for Singapore, would not appear till the GRC policy is broken. As of now, too many egos and Indian chiefs. Everyone wants to be king, unitred will become disunited very soon and PAP will benefit outright from it.

The present situation of multi-parties contesting in as many wards as possible and stretching PAP's resources would have to do.

3 Corner fights is best ignored and avoided.

The idea of a united opposition would not materialise until all the megalomaniac madmen lose their deposits with one opposition party left standing. My only hope is WP now. I used to have some hope on RP when it first started, but sad to say, it's still going the Indian chief tribal way.

 

[kaomangai]

Having read the negative remarks on Dr Chee, I just wonder how many of these people actually met him, talked to him and try to understand why he does what he does.

I met Dr Chee once and I must say that he was most friendly and cordial even I was a complete stranger to him.

He might have made mistakes in his approach but he was willing to stake all that he has for a cause. That include going to prison.

Just wonder how many of us are courageous enough to do that for any cause.

 

[boring]

I'll vote PAP if NSP or SDP or SF stand in my ward.

Protest vote against madmen like GMS, CSJ and CTL. :oIo:

bro, think far for the next generation. instead protest not to vote GMS, CSJ ETC, why not protest pap for voting GMS, CSJ. singapore is going to tarnish very soon if we the only last hope to vote pap out, remember old fark said this place is not a nation yet , wat his agenda? simply want to squeese the rest of ur and ur next generation life... think wise, don't get divert when doing a major decision...

 

[boring]

The idea of a united opposition, though good for Singapore, would not appear till the GRC policy is broken. As of now, too many egos and Indian chiefs. Everyone wants to be king, unitred will become disunited very soon and PAP will benefit outright from it.

The present situation of multi-parties contesting in as many wards as possible and stretching PAP's resources would have to do.

3 Corner fights is best ignored and avoided.

true bro, 3 corner fight is simple giving up the victory to pap, beleive the oppostion not so dump!

 

[boring]

Having read the negative remarks on Dr Chee, I just wonder how many of these people actually met him, talked to him and try to understand why he does what he does.

I met Dr Chee once and I must say that he was most friendly and cordial even I was a complete stranger to him.

He might have made mistakes in his approach but he was willing to stake all that he has for a cause. That include going to prison.

Just wonder how many of us are courageous enough to do that for any cause.

Dr Chew is a man with BALLS!!! major media r tarnishing his image, but of course he really need to SLIGHTLY change his approach.

 

[Forvendet]

Having read the negative remarks on Dr Chee, I just wonder how many of these people actually met him, talked to him and try to understand why he does what he does.

I met Dr Chee once and I must say that he was most friendly and cordial even I was a complete stranger to him.

He might have made mistakes in his approach but he was willing to stake all that he has for a cause. That include going to prison.

Just wonder how many of us are courageous enough to do that for any cause.

And you're impressed by him being friendly and cordial?

All politicians (PAP and opposition) go out shaking hands with strangers being friendly and cordial. What's the big deal?

What courage? I don't think he's that stupid. There're only two possibilities. He's working for PAP interests or foreign interests. Look at the fundings for his events and seminars. Look at his results. His results only favour either PAP interests or foreign interests, none favouring the common people that he purports to fight for.

 

[jw5]

because the chance of PAP losing in a 3-corner fight is remote seriuosly, my vote will never go to SDP.

I can understand why you will vote for pap vs sdp, but can't understand why you would spoil your vote in a 3 cornered fight.
You can still vote any opposition even if the chance of winning is remote, so that overall pap winning % will drop right?
Are you saying that you will only vote for a party when they have a good chance of winning or when the party you hate has a good chance of winning?