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This is bullshit. It was the hongkies CCP lured to Shenzhen and that success was replicated elsewhere.

Nope. China is 'successful' because the west believed in Deng Xiaoping's bullshit, swindled their way into joining the WTO, then leeching the wealth from those foolish enough to invest in China. Even with cringe projects such as the Suzhou Industrial Park. :rolleyes:

A communist is still a communist. Wearing a business suit does not change this fact. :cool:
 
Nope. China is 'successful' because the west believed in Deng Xiaoping's bullshit, swindled their way into joining the WTO, then leeching the wealth from those foolish enough to invest in China. Even with cringe projects such as the Suzhou Industrial Park. :rolleyes:

A communist is still a communist. Wearing a business suit does not change this fact. :cool:
The China people were progressing & in came Tiananman. CCP used army tanks on own civilians. End of the start of democracy for the people. Nowadays the citizens are being brainwashed daily their progress is their own ability. Not SG & the developed country foreign investment & technical know how & they just copied & improved.
 
The China people were progressing & in came Tiananman. CCP used army tanks on own civilians. End of the start of democracy for the people. Nowadays the citizens are being brainwashed daily their progress is their own ability. Not SG & the developed country foreign investment & technical know how & they just copied & improved.

Nope. It was all a scam, even before Tiananmen. The Tiong commies just wanted to grab more money, lay low and bide their time. Their ideological struggle against the 'reactionaries' has never changed. That was also the foundation which they hoodwinked the UK into handing over Hong Kong, which was then used as a base for the CCP to grab money (US dollars) and tech from the west, which could not be done on the mainland, not even in Shanghai. :cool:
 
Nope. It was all a scam, even before Tiananmen. The Tiong commies just wanted to grab more money, lay low and bide their time. Their ideological struggle against the 'reactionaries' has never changed. That was also the foundation which they hoodwinked the UK into handing over Hong Kong, which was then used as a base for the CCP to grab money (US dollars) and tech from the west, which could not be done on the mainland, not even in Shanghai. :cool:
Well, the country was in poverty & Deng has to open up. Now you look at India, also the same trying to get the money first.
 
The China people were progressing & in came Tiananman. CCP used army tanks on own civilians.
Pelosi, in her younger days, were there with a banner at Tiananman and you wonder why the tanks were rolled in, coincidence?
 
The China people were progressing & in came Tiananman. CCP used army tanks on own civilians. End of the start of democracy for the people. Nowadays the citizens are being brainwashed daily their progress is their own ability. Not SG & the developed country foreign investment & technical know how & they just copied & improved.
 

Lee Kuan Yew built modern Singapore, but he also changed China​




By Matthew Bell
February 05, 2016
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When Singapore’s Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew played host to China’s paramount leader, Deng Xiaoping, in late 1978, Lee’s Chinese majority city-state was less than 20 years in the making. But he knew where Singapore was headed. And Lee had some advice for his vastly bigger and more powerful Chinese neighbors.

“The people of Singapore know the capabilities of the Chinese nation,” Lee said during a formal dinner for Deng. “We wish China success in her rapid industrialization. A prosperous and peaceful country of nearly one billion people is a matter of great consequence for Asia and for the world.”

The following year, Deng Xiaoping put the People’s Republic on a path toward economic modernization and away from decades of political chaos under Mao Zedong. China has never been the same.

Lee just passed away at the age of 91. But the Singaporean strongman will go down in history not only as the founding father of his nation, which he transformed from a third world backwater into a stable and prosperous first world financial hub. Lee also had a lasting impact on China.

The most important thing Lee did was to show that “a Chinese-run state could be both modern and authoritarian,” says Isaac Stone Fish, Asia editor of Foreign Policy Magazine. “Lee Kuan Yew made China, and made the world, safe for authoritarianism.”

If anyone outside of China deserves credit for helping to put Beijing on course to embrace capitalist reforms, but still preserve its one-party authoritarian system, it has to be Lee Kuan Yew, says Stone Fish.

“Deng had been to Singapore in the [1920s], when it had been as desperately poor as China was. And he was just so surprised [in 1978] that a Chinese state could be prosperous and could be modern,” Stone Fish says.

Lee continued to personally meet with successive Chinese leaders, even after he stepped down as Singapore’s prime minister in 1990. In a 2007 interview with the New York Times, Lee said that ministers from China would meet twice a year with their Singaporean counterparts. He added that that 50 mayors from Chinese cities were coming to visit Singapore every three months to study city management.


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Lee Kuan Yew: The Father of Modern China?​

Lee Kuan Yew’s influence helped shape the China we know today.
Shannon Tiezzi

By Shannon Tiezzi
March 24, 2015


https://thediplomat.com/2015/03/lee-kuan-yew-the-father-of-modern-china/



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With the passing of Lee Kuan Yew, Singapore’s first prime minister and one of the most influential Asian politicians, leaders and media outlets all over the world have put in their two cents on his legacy. In the Western world, analysis of his influence is generally mixed; the Washington Post, for example, led off its piece by calling Lee “the democratic world’s favorite dictator.” But in China, where Lee’s mix of authoritarian governance and economic reform proved hugely influential, reflections are far more glowing.

China’s Foreign Ministry issued a statement on March 23 saying that “the Chinese side deeply mourns the loss of Mr. Lee Kuan Yew.” The statement praised Lee as “a uniquely influential statesman in Asia and a strategist embodying oriental values and international vision.”

For China, that high praise might actually be underestimating Lee’s importance. After the death of Mao Zedong, Beijing’s leaders knew that Maoist philosophy was not the way forward for China – but they were loath to adopt Western alternatives such as democracy and a free market economy. In Lee’s Singapore, Chinese leaders found an alternative path, a path they could sell as being uniquely suited for Asian (or “oriental,” as China’s FM put it) values. That choice, to combine economic reforms with authoritarianism, shaped China as we know it today.

Jin Canrong of Renmin University told China Dailythat Lee’s greatest contribution to China was “sharing Singapore’s successful experience in governance.” In his biography of Deng Xiaoping, Ezra Vogel wrote that China’s great reformed was inspired by the example of Lee’s Singapore. Xi Jinping himself has said that China’s modernization process has been undeniably shaped by the “tens of thousands of Chinese officials” who went to Singapore to study Lee’s model. Lee himself visited China over 30 times and met with Chinese leaders from Mao to Xi Jinping, offering advice.
 

Lee Kuan Yew and China’s transformation​


https://www.newindianexpress.com/am...an-yew-and-chinas-transformation-2337864.html


Deng Xiaoping visited Singapore in 1978 and was very impressed with its rapid economic growth. With Deng on the ascendant in China, Lee’s role increased manifold​


V Suryanarayan

Updated:31st Jul, 2021 at 5:32 AM






Lee Kuan Yew (1923–2015), the architect of modern Singapore, transformed the island republic “From Third World to First” (the title of his memoirs), an achievement unparalleled in modern Asian history. What is less known is the fact that this seminal figure was responsible for the transformation of the People’s Republic of China (PRC). China today has become not only the foremost Asian power, it is rapidly catching up with the US.

Early in his political career, Lee realised that Singapore (a Chinese island in a Malay sea) could not afford to become a “Third China”. The leaders of Indonesia and Malaysia were concerned about Chinese cultural exclusiveness and their stranglehold on the economy. The nationalism had strong streaks of xenophobia, not only against the colonial powers but also against the economically powerful Chinese community. Addressing the Nanyang University in October 1959, Lee underlined: “If Nanyang becomes a symbol of Chinese excellence and the supremacy of Chinese scholarship and learning then verily we will aggravate the position of overseas Chinese.” It was this firm belief that made Singapore dissuade the “boat people” (mainly ethnic Chinese) from coming to its shores.

Adding to the complexity, the revolutionary leadership and militant following of the Malayan Communist Party (MCP) came from the Chinese community. The MCP, which waged an armed struggle for power from 1948 to 1960, received powerful ideological and, to some extent, armed support from the Chinese Communist Party (CCP). The Malay leaders, therefore, were highly suspicious of China’s expansionist designs. This ethnic reality prompted Lee to declare that Singapore would be the last among ASEAN nations to establish diplomatic relations with Beijing, which it did only in 1990.

According to Lee, two major obstacles had to be overcome before normalcy was established in bilateral relations. After the Revolution in 1911, when Dr Sun Yat Sen became the President of Kuomintang China, he proclaimed a new Constitution under which citizenship went with ethnicity and not the place of residence. Thus a Chinese living in Malaya or Singapore became a citizen of China; his loyalty was to China and not to Malaya or Singapore. This policy made Southeast Asian nationalists view ethnic Chinese as Beiing’s “fifth column”. It was only after many years of persuasive diplomacy that China’s leaders revised their thinking. They advocated that the Chinese communities should become citizens of the countries in which they lived and began the universal practice of passports and visas.

The second impediment was the powerful ideological support that the CCP extended to fraternal communist parties. The Voice of Malayan Revolution, The Voice of Thai Revolution and The Voice of Burma Revolution—all underground radios—began to function from Southern China. The PRC, at that time, made a distinction between government-to-government and party-to-party relations. Lee, a staunch anti-communist in domestic politics, was referred to as a “running dog of American and British imperialism”.

Lee was able to convince the Chinese leaders that support to local communist parties was an obstacle if China wanted to expand economic and political relations. In a major initiative, China stopped the support to communist parties. Gradually China became a status quo power. During the Third Indo-China War, China worked together with the US and ASEAN to isolate Vietnam. The PRC has changed to such an extent that it is today the main supporter of many reactionary regimes—the military leadership in Pakistan, the Rajapaksas in Sri Lanka and the military junta in Myanmar.

It is worth narrating an incident that took place during the first goodwill visit of a Singapore delegation in 1967, which is given in S R Nathan’s book, An Unexpected Journey: Path to Presidency. The bilateral relations were still tentative. The centrepiece of the visit was the meeting of Lee and the Chinese Prime Minister Hua Guofeng. Hua presented Lee with a book, saying: “This is the correct account of the war between China and India. I hope you will find it useful.” Lee took the book, looked at the front cover, looked at the back, and said: “Prime Minister, this is your version of the war. There is another version, the Indian version. And in any case I am from Southeast Asia. It is nothing to do with us”. He handed the book back. Nathan has written, “For me, this was a very important moment, a clear confirmation that Lee Kuan Yew, ethnically Chinese, was his own man, in no way subordinate to China or the Chinese Communists.”
 

The construction of the Singapore Model in Mainland China​

https://www.thinkchina.sg/politics/construction-singapore-model-mainland-china

24 SEP 2019​


POLITICS
Chen Nahui

By Chen Nahui
Assistant Professor, China University of Political Science and Law
Translated by Grace Chong

What did the Middle Kingdom with 5000 years of civilisation learn from a country that is 13,344 times smaller and celebrated its 54th National Day in 2019?​

Xi Jinping during a meeting with Lee Kuan Yew: Mr Deng Xiaoping repeatedly mentioned the need to learn from Singapore when he was alive. This was necessary in the past, and remains so in the present and future. (Graphic: Jace Yip)
Xi Jinping during a meeting with Lee Kuan Yew: "Mr Deng Xiaoping repeatedly mentioned the need to learn from Singapore when he was alive. This was necessary in the past, and remains so in the present and future." (Graphic: Jace Yip)
To date, Singapore is the only country that China's top leaders have publicly claimed as a learning model.

In 1978, when China was at a crossroads, Deng Xiaoping made his political comeback and was giving serious thought to the nation's future. That November, Deng Xiaoping visited Singapore. En route to France for work and studies in 1920, Deng had seen a Singapore in shambles. Fifty-eight years later, Singapore had undergone a facelift and was now virtually unrecognisable as the Singapore Deng recalled. He was astounded by the level of development the small island-nation had achieved in just two generations. Deng remained silent when Singapore's first Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew confidently remarked that China would soon be on par with, or even surpass Singapore. Lee said: "We are only the descendants of illiterate, landless farmers in Fujian, Guangdong and other places, but many of you are the descendants of officials and scholars." Deng considered how China could become as modern as Singapore, or even exceed it. Lee's Singapore aligned with Deng's vision for China as a prosperous country where the Communist Party of China (CPC) would continue to hold a firm rule. He decided to learn from the Singapore experience. In Lee's words, the Singapore that Deng saw in 1978 became the model for China's future.
He (Deng) upheld Singapore's authoritarian rule, using its social order and stability to justify his own crackdown in Tiananmen Square, which served to strengthen the Chinese state's single-party rule.
In 1992, two years after China and Singapore established formal diplomatic relations, the "Singapore Model" as a path to Chinese modernisation began to take shape in China's official propaganda. Learning from Singapore became an organized and systematic official practice. This "Singapore fever" in China was, to some extent, a continuation of the reformist blueprint laid down in 1978. However, from 1978 to 1992, China's political situation underwent huge changes. After Deng Xiaoping became China's most powerful man in the late 70s, in 1978, he launched the economic reform that propelled China from a planned economy to a market economy. He was seen as a reformer who challenged conservatives, but when he later commanded the crackdown on the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests, he was viewed as a conservative with zero tolerance for liberal democracy.

The construction of the Singapore Model in Mainland China

24 SEP 2019POLITICS
Chen Nahui

By Chen Nahui
Assistant Professor, China University of Political Science and Law

Translated by Grace Chong

What did the Middle Kingdom with 5000 years of civilisation learn from a country that is 13,344 times smaller and celebrated its 54th National Day in 2019?​

Xi Jinping during a meeting with Lee Kuan Yew: Mr Deng Xiaoping repeatedly mentioned the need to learn from Singapore when he was alive. This was necessary in the past, and remains so in the present and future. (Graphic: Jace Yip)

Xi Jinping during a meeting with Lee Kuan Yew: "Mr Deng Xiaoping repeatedly mentioned the need to learn from Singapore when he was alive. This was necessary in the past, and remains so in the present and future." (Graphic: Jace Yip)
To date, Singapore is the only country that China's top leaders have publicly claimed as a learning model.
In 1978, when China was at a crossroads, Deng Xiaoping made his political comeback and was giving serious thought to the nation's future. That November, Deng Xiaoping visited Singapore. En route to France for work and studies in 1920, Deng had seen a Singapore in shambles. Fifty-eight years later, Singapore had undergone a facelift and was now virtually unrecognisable as the Singapore Deng recalled. He was astounded by the level of development the small island-nation had achieved in just two generations. Deng remained silent when Singapore's first Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew confidently remarked that China would soon be on par with, or even surpass Singapore. Lee said: "We are only the descendants of illiterate, landless farmers in Fujian, Guangdong and other places, but many of you are the descendants of officials and scholars." Deng considered how China could become as modern as Singapore, or even exceed it. Lee's Singapore aligned with Deng's vision for China as a prosperous country where the Communist Party of China (CPC) would continue to hold a firm rule. He decided to learn from the Singapore experience. In Lee's words, the Singapore that Deng saw in 1978 became the model for China's future.

He (Deng) upheld Singapore's authoritarian rule, using its social order and stability to justify his own crackdown in Tiananmen Square, which served to strengthen the Chinese state's single-party rule.
In 1992, two years after China and Singapore established formal diplomatic relations, the "Singapore Model" as a path to Chinese modernisation began to take shape in China's official propaganda. Learning from Singapore became an organized and systematic official practice. This "Singapore fever" in China was, to some extent, a continuation of the reformist blueprint laid down in 1978. However, from 1978 to 1992, China's political situation underwent huge changes. After Deng Xiaoping became China's most powerful man in the late 70s, in 1978, he launched the economic reform that propelled China from a planned economy to a market economy. He was seen as a reformer who challenged conservatives, but when he later commanded the crackdown on the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests, he was viewed as a conservative with zero tolerance for liberal democracy.
 
All sauces from Bengali, ah Tiong and even local coolie genes sites that 歌功颂德on Lee Ah Gong - very good leecord and reference on Lee ah gong and Tiongkok….how will Pax America Imperial Empreor Trump think??
 
The SIP is a large industrial area in China where companies can set up factories and offices. It's a joint project between China and Singapore, where Singapore provided expertise and assistance to help China develop this industrial park.
A core element of Singapore's contribution was the transfer of its "software" – its expertise in industrial development and public administration. This involved sharing Singapore's successful model for attracting foreign investment, developing infrastructure, and managing an efficient business environment.
Essentially, Singapore provided the know-how in planning, developing, and managing an industrial township.
 
Tat was exaggerating. CCP at that point time sooner or later they need to open up because too many peo and poor. They also knew how rich hk was then. Deng visit sinkie lky is just nothing.
 
Pelosi, in her younger days, were there with a banner at Tiananman and you wonder why the tanks were rolled in, coincidence?
She probably there to witness the situation. Likely no one will expect own govt will use tank. Police to catch protestors is expected.
 
Pelosi, in her younger days, were there with a banner at Tiananman and you wonder why the tanks were rolled in, coincidence?
The excerpt implies that Nancy Pelosi was involved in the protests, possibly by carrying a banner, which is a large sign or flag with a message. However, there is no evidence to support this claim, and it's unlikely that Pelosi was ever involved in the protests.
the excerpt is a statement that references a historical event in Tiananmen Square, but it's unclear what the writer is trying to say or what they mean by the reference to Pelosi.
 

China's President Xi Jinping praises Mr Lee Kuan Yew's 'outstanding contributions' to Asia​

Esther Teo, China Correspondent In Beijing
PUBLISHED MAR 28, 2015, 11:23 AM
Chinese President Xi Jinping on Saturday credited Singapore's founding prime minister Lee Kuan Yew for making "outstanding contributions" to peace and development in Asia and for fostering the region's ties and cooperation with the rest of the world.

"Mr Lee Kuan Yew is a strategist and statesman that has the respect of the international society," he said.

"I would like to take this opportunity to express my highest respect to all our predecessors, including Mr Lee Kuan Yew, who have made contributions to the peaceful development of Asia."

Mr Xi was giving the opening keynote speech at the annual Boao Forum for Asia in southern Hainan province, with the theme Asia's New Future: Towards A Community of Common Destiny.

The four-day conference, which is meant to promote economic integration in the region, wraps up on Sunday.

The Beijing-led Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB) and Mr Xi's "One Belt, One Road" initiative - a push to revive the ancient maritime and overland silk routes by increasing infrastructural connectivity - are expected to top the agenda of the forum.

Mr Lee died at the age of 91 on March 23.

His state funeral will be held in Singapore on Sunday and will be attended by leaders such as Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, Chinese Vice-President Li Yuanchao and former United States president Bill Clinton.

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The SIP is a large industrial area in China where companies can set up factories and offices. It's a joint project between China and Singapore, where Singapore provided expertise and assistance to help China develop this industrial park.
A core element of Singapore's contribution was the transfer of its "software" – its expertise in industrial development and public administration. This involved sharing Singapore's successful model for attracting foreign investment, developing infrastructure, and managing an efficient business environment.
Essentially, Singapore provided the know-how in planning, developing, and managing an industrial township.
U can ask those people who who in SG semicon industry from 2000-2015, many companies are flooded with Tiong engineers and managers who came here to “study” and shun Bian 打包whatever they can get their hands on To go back
 
U can ask those people who who in SG semicon industry from 2000-2015, many companies are flooded with Tiong engineers and managers who came here to “study” and shun Bian 打包whatever they can get their hands on To go back
what it has to do with Suzhou Industrial Park(SIP) in Sizhou?
 
She probably there to witness the situation. Likely no one will expect own govt will use tank. Police to catch protestors is expected.
LKY said he would do the same if he was in Deng's shoes.
 
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