[Deal reached] Zelensky doesn't need to pay Trump back $500 billion, but Trump won't guarantee Ukraine's security from future Russian invasions either

[UltimaOnline]

https://mothership.sg/2025/02/ukraine-us-mineral-deal/

 

[Willamshakespear]

1)Nothing is free in this world,

Billions spent, mostly by USA, is on record thru bank transactions & logistics, to prove to Courts that such sums were spent to support UKR & should Prez Trump use legal means to justify such spending of American taxpayers fundings, PrezZelenskyy as the figure head of UKR WILL have to pay for it, as there is NO legal record that such funds from American taxpayers were 'grants'....


2) After 3 long suffering years by both RUS & UKR troops/citizens, it is time to end this quagmire, to save lives & economies.


3) Should PrezZelenskyy RENEGES to pay for American taxpayers goodwill, it can be written off by USA, as USA has NO need for that pathetic Billions. USA is a resource rich nation,& have more than Trillions in mineral resources than others, not to mention its space attempts to safely drag a multi trillion dollar asteroid to Earth or its safe orbit to be mined....


4) However, the one to lose will be UKR, listed as 104th in International Corrupt Indexes, EVEN after the illegal invasion by RUS....as well as the end of USA taxpayers support for this futile war & the reconstruction of UKR, that had cost the lives of so many, many innocents in both UKR & RUS...whom are only our fellow Humans....

 

[syed putra]

2) After 3 long suffering years by both RUS & UKR troops/citizens, it is time to end this quagmire, to save lives & economies.

The whole idea of project Ukraine by the US deep state was to destroy russia's economy, like what they did during the cold war and Afghanistan. They did not expect China and India to come in fill the void left by Europe's energy sanction.
Trump slowly but surely unravelling the deep state, layer by layer. Except in middle east where its netanyahu who is in charge.

 

[syed putra]

4) However, the one to lose will be UKR, listed as 104th in International Corrupt Indexes, EVEN after the illegal invasion by RUS....as well as the end of USA taxpayers support for this futile war & the reconstruction of UKR, that had cost the lives of so many, many innocents in both UKR & RUS...whom are only our fellow Humans....

Its the US that instigated the war. So its only fair they pay for the consequence. US is far more corrupt than Ukraine. Its only now the US citizens realised just how corrupt their system is.

 

[Narong Wongwan]

What happened to all the billions confiscated from Russia’s overseas accounts?

 

[laksaboy]

What happened to all the billions confiscated from Russia’s overseas accounts?

That's done by the UK or the EU, no? It was partly why they forced Abramovich to sell Chelsea football club.

 

[shock888]

After fighting the war for 3 years, Ukraine still need to surrender and pay US etc. via minerals. Ukrainians lost totally...

 

[glockman]

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https://mothership.sg/2025/02/ukraine-us-mineral-deal/

We don't know the exact terms of the agreement yet. But as the US will have a large interest in minerals there, they will be inclined to defend and protect their investments.

 

[glockman]

After fighting the war for 3 years, Ukraine still need to surrender and pay US etc. via minerals. Ukrainians lost totally...

Yes, Ukraine is quite pitiful. Got invaded by a more powerful and bigger country, and now need to pay protection money. Trump is also practicing debt diplomacy like Xi.

 

[Willamshakespear]

Yes, Ukraine is quite pitiful. Got invaded by a more powerful and bigger country, and now need to pay protection money. Trump is also practicing debt diplomacy like Xi.

Save your pity for the more needed...

Ultimately, EACH Nation have to take DEFENCE seriously. UKR, listed as the 104th nation on Corruption Indexes, will have to pay a price for survival, just like many other nations with Leaders that presumed corruption is a way of life, neglecting its citizens & social expenditures but only out for themselves, such as happened even in Africa & Latin American states that horrifically support export of harmful drugs & yet unable to contain the rise of drug money that bribed all levels of society to support such usage within their own countries, leading to high levels of crimes & despair to innocents.....

And yet, when problems get out of hand, they KBKB for help....make all kinds of NONESENCIAL claims JUST to gain support for their way of life....& dragging the 99% of its innocent citizens into futile warfare, regardless if is RUS or UKR, or any other FAILED nations....

NOTHING is free in this World. With help & assistance rendered in terms of LOANS, which came from honest & hardworking taxpayers, such must be repaid. Make no mistake - Wars, which Human blood is shed, are NOT investments, & NO investor would partake in such horrific attempts, as there are other ways to earn from many, so many more honest investments...

Such funds are meant to serve a purpose & limited in time & scope, but enough is enough....


Thus PrezTrump, with his foresight & vision, did the right thing to end such senseless & futile wars when far more better opportunities await for each youth, whom are the future of Humankind...

 

[syed putra]

That's done by the UK or the EU, no? It was partly why they forced Abramovich to sell Chelsea football club.

Chelsea wants sold. It was seized. And sold by the state.

 

[syed putra]

Save your pity for the more needed...

Ultimately, EACH Nation have to take DEFENCE seriously. UKR, listed as the 104th nation on Corruption Indexes, will have to pay a price for survival, just like many other nations with Leaders that presumed corruption is a way of life, neglecting its citizens & social expenditures but only out for themselves, such as happened even in Africa & Latin American states that horrifically support export of harmful drugs & yet unable to contain the rise of drug money that bribed all levels of society to support such usage within their own countries, leading to high levels of crimes & despair to innocents.....

And yet, when problems get out of hand, they KBKB for help....make all kinds of NONESENCIAL claims JUST to gain support for their way of life....& dragging the 99% of its innocent citizens into futile warfare, regardless if is RUS or UKR, or any other FAILED nations....

NOTHING is free in this World. With help & assistance rendered in terms of LOANS, which came from honest & hardworking taxpayers, such must be repaid. Make no mistake - Wars, which Human blood is shed, are NOT investments, & NO investor would partake in such horrific attempts, as there are other ways to earn from many, so many more honest investments...

Such funds are meant to serve a purpose & limited in time & scope, but enough is enough....


Thus PrezTrump, with his foresight & vision, did the right thing to end such senseless & futile wars when far more better opportunities await for each youth, whom are the future of Humankind...

When Trump was president way back in 2017,he was arming Ukraine. And pulled out of . ....

President Donald J. Trump to Withdraw the United States from the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces (INF) Treaty​

This meant, Europe, which was free from intermediate nuclear missile could now be rearmed and aimed at Moscow from Ukraine.
That means in any situation, Russia has 5 minutes to decide on whether to retaliate if it's sensors and radar detect a incoming threat. Thus putting the world in a very stressful situation.

 

[syed putra]

 

[mojito]

Donation can get back one meh? New house new rools I suppose.

 

[Willamshakespear]

When Trump was president way back in 2017,he was arming Ukraine. And pulled out of . ....

President Donald J. Trump to Withdraw the United States from the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces (INF) Treaty​

This meant, Europe, which was free from intermediate nuclear missile could now be rearmed and aimed at Moscow from Ukraine.
That means in any situation, Russia has 5 minutes to decide on whether to retaliate if it's sensors and radar detect a incoming threat. Thus putting the world in a very stressful situation.

There lays an ancient saying - there can be no smoke without fire.

Thus, who is the one who wishes to start a fire which will result in a MULTIPLE nuke launch by the 1st smoke?

Ponder upon this before responding...Is peaceful coexistence - live & let live - so difficult to achieve, despite the high levels of Human achievements in progress, scientific advancements & economic heights thru fair trade....?

 

[Willamshakespear]

Donation can get back one meh? New house new rools I suppose.

Donations? What & who donated?

Just ask a stranger on a bus if any would even DONATE a dollar to you. The response would be either a laff or just plain ignore.

However, it is BILLIONS of hardworking American taxpayers funds that had been LOANED to still corrupted UKR to defended themselves, that we are talking about, not a mere dollar...over years in a war that had led to a stalemate, & quagmire, & more precious money if continued on...

It's not about the money, as money can be recouped back the next day by working harder & smarter, but precious lives, both RUS & UKR, as well as the continued senseless war secondary effects upon Humankind such as loss in jobs in supply chains, inflation, ability to put food on the table for loved ones, etc, etc, that once gone, can never again return.....

 

[glockman]

Save your pity for the more needed...

Ultimately, EACH Nation have to take DEFENCE seriously. UKR, listed as the 104th nation on Corruption Indexes, will have to pay a price for survival, just like many other nations with Leaders that presumed corruption is a way of life, neglecting its citizens & social expenditures but only out for themselves, such as happened even in Africa & Latin American states that horrifically support export of harmful drugs & yet unable to contain the rise of drug money that bribed all levels of society to support such usage within their own countries, leading to high levels of crimes & despair to innocents.....

And yet, when problems get out of hand, they KBKB for help....make all kinds of NONESENCIAL claims JUST to gain support for their way of life....& dragging the 99% of its innocent citizens into futile warfare, regardless if is RUS or UKR, or any other FAILED nations....

NOTHING is free in this World. With help & assistance rendered in terms of LOANS, which came from honest & hardworking taxpayers, such must be repaid. Make no mistake - Wars, which Human blood is shed, are NOT investments, & NO investor would partake in such horrific attempts, as there are other ways to earn from many, so many more honest investments...

Such funds are meant to serve a purpose & limited in time & scope, but enough is enough....


Thus PrezTrump, with his foresight & vision, did the right thing to end such senseless & futile wars when far more better opportunities await for each youth, whom are the future of Humankind...

Let's not jump the gun here. The war is still raging in Ukraine, people are still getting killed every day. Hopefully that will end very soon. As corrupt as Ukraine is, it is not the people's fault that Putin decided to invade. I feel pity for them. Especially those chio ukrainian bu with big titties.

 

[bigozt]

no room for WW2-style invasions to settle disputes in today's connected world. Small legal nations (Fakestine terrorists doesn't count) that abide by rule of law need to ensure this framework stands so they can deal with bigger nations on equitable terms. Beyond the rhetoric put out by Ukrainian and Russkis and their respective supporters, do we Sinkies really know the truth of their issues as much as they know of our issues with MY and Indon??? Probably not. What is clear is Ukraine was invaded, and have the right to defend itself. The problem is it is impossible to win against Russkis..historically..but we'll see what the Ukraine cheapo drone army can do. $1000 flying contraption takes out $10M tank is mind boggling. Yes, lotsa chio widowed Ukrainian-bu and Russki-bu out there could use a spouse visa and new life.

 

[blissquek]

After fighting the war for 3 years, Ukraine still need to surrender and pay US etc. via minerals. Ukrainians lost totally...

The cat is out of the bag .. why US wants the Ukrain war to end… so they get back their aid money (500 billion?) plus interest .!!!

 

[mojito]

Donations? What & who donated?

Just ask a stranger on a bus if any would even DONATE a dollar to you. The response would be either a laff or just plain ignore.

However, it is BILLIONS of hardworking American taxpayers funds that had been LOANED to still corrupted UKR to defended themselves, that we are talking about, not a mere dollar...over years in a war that had led to a stalemate, & quagmire, & more precious money if continued on...

It's not about the money, as money can be recouped back the next day by working harder & smarter, but precious lives, both RUS & UKR, as well as the continued senseless war secondary effects upon Humankind such as loss in jobs in supply chains, inflation, ability to put food on the table for loved ones, etc, etc, that once gone, can never again return.....

Lousy AI u go Sumatra show ur world most powerful passport ask for all our tsunami aid money back lah.