The reason behind the 24hr Cooling Off Period

[scroobal]

This time around there seems to be higher level of secrecy and lot less people involved. The cooling of period did not have anything close to a trial balloon. It caught a lot of people by surprise. There are lot of speculation in the air such as
1) PAP proxies standing as "independent" candidate with Simon Tay recently re-labelled himself as an activist similar to Ejay and Tilik as the main subject matter.

2) Big rally sites will only be offered 48 hrs before the polls. The possibility of smaller sites are in the air

3) People being approached to form new parties.

Frankly, I don't think anyone has a reasonable idea what the ground is like.

Dear Scroobal
How "tough" is the going ? I hear their internal pre election polling is going pretty badly for them and hence these new measures ? Chiam is at 45 +/- 3 in TP not even taking into account swings which can be generated during a nine day campaign. Rumours rumors even from the well informedg.
Locke

 

[Debonerman]

You must have got it wrong. Your party leader is paid as MP and he is leader of opposition. If leader of opposition doesn't take the lead, who should?

Goh Meng Seng

Wahlaoeh! Goh Meng Seng. First people accuse me of being from the SDP, now you insinuate I'm from Teochew Ah Hiah's side? Chor Ni Tngar?

 

[scroobal]

Jln Besar is the PAP barometer. It was painstaking carved out to contain 2 hardcore group of supporters (1) old folks and (2) small time business owners. If it is shifting then the rest should be impacted.

The concessions are to mask an inevitable trend.

Even Jalan Besar's ground is losing grip. Jalan Besar has the least P65 percentage but it seems that the mood swing among the 50 yr old and above is creating tremors there.

 

[Goh Meng Seng]

Wahlaoeh! Goh Meng Seng. First people accuse me of being from the SDP, now you insinuate I'm from Teochew Ah Hiah's side? Chor Ni Tngar?

Nah, I don't think you are anybody. Dr. Chee is also regarded as Leader of opposition by foreigners. You could even pick Kenneth JB because he is the upcoming star as opposition leader of Reform Party. So pick your choice. I am just a little player in opposition politics, nothing to that great status you want me to be. In fact, from the Chinese mindset, who am I to make such a great move? I mean there are many distinguished leaders of opposition parties around!

But to me, I regard LTK at present, as the leader of opposition because he is an MP with another NCMP from his party in parliament. So, you should go and pester him!

Goh Meng Seng

 

[Goh Meng Seng]

Dear Scroobal,

My intelligence tell me that an independent market research firm has been engaged to carry out poll on the ground. I guess this is necessary for redrawing of the boundaries.

The P65 factor is seriously studied into and I am also studying into it as well. I have come up with a breakdown of P65 percentage for each districts and it is pretty interesting. My analysis is that they are really the swing voters.

Goh Meng Seng

This time around there seems to be higher level of secrecy and lot less people involved. The cooling of period did not have anything close to a trial balloon. It caught a lot of people by surprise. There are lot of speculation in the air such as
1) PAP proxies standing as "independent" candidate with Simon Tay recently re-labelled himself as an activist similar to Ejay and Tilik as the main subject matter.

2) Big rally sites will only be offered 48 hrs before the polls. The possibility of smaller sites are in the air

3) People being approached to form new parties.

Frankly, I don't think anyone has a reasonable idea what the ground is like.

 

[newyorker88]

Wonder if shutting down the internet would help the PAP in an election

Many jobless Sporeans out there who are aware of the foreigners in Spore.

Losses of Temasek is no secret, only the true extent of the losses.

We all know the lazy, incompetent,......are getting million salaries while our salaries are stagnant or cut.

PAP abuses are well known so will a news blackout help them:

News black out, and 1 day cooling off is to make people feel life as usual. No hard sentiments against ruling parties on their misdoings. As usual, the fear tactics will come about. Loss of good life if PAP is to fall.

Life is hard for many liao. Only if they would exercise their right to vote properly.

 

[Equalisation]

if one day cooling off is public holiday, then 66.6% become 88.8 % !!

 

[Perspective]

How much will that cost? $15,000?

More than ten times more. Just one non-discounted full page ad costs nearly as much as a HDB flat.

 

[myfoot123]

Dear Locke,
. The pre-elections poll is far worse than what you have indicated. Not only Bishan-TP , Aljunied, Tampines and even Tanjong Pagar have become big danger zones with Aljunied and Tampines in the range of 50% (or more) +/- 3%.
Goh Meng Seng

AMK may not be too far away too. LBW and WSK have given that town a very black name and SHT was caught in a very embrassing situation too.

 

[Perspective]

Frankly, I don't think anyone has a reasonable idea what the ground is like.

Frankly, if I want to look further, I would be more worried about how opposition would keep their seats in 2016. Even less people have a reasonable idea of how victory is often the beginning, not the end.

As a balance-believing voter, I know how my vote will go. However not everyone is a balance-believing voter.

 

[lockeliberal]

Dear Scroo

Well political forecasting if done well and if done correctly tends to be quite accurate. A matter of scale accurate demographics and money.

All the internals that GMS and I have been hearing rumors about have been about PAP paid for sampling. No way paupers like the opposition can afford something similar.

Announcement of rally sites 48 hrs whatever beforehand has no effect on the opposition because traditionally the opposition has not had the resources to camp outside police stations to get the best sites. Its a question of how bad they make choice B :_))



Locke

 

[lockeliberal]

Frankly

Why worry about keeping a seat when you have not even won anything. Win first worry later



Locke

 

[commoner]

used to be the grassroots leaders and town councils to provide feedback to the ruling parties,,,,,,,

however, the town councils since, been many complaints from residents, thus, views may be skewed and grassroots response has always been good, may not provide the actual picture to PAP,,,,

oppositions need to walk on grounds and convince the residents they can take care of the constituency better than the existing MPs, they stands a good chance

 

[Perspective]

If we assume we will be around in 2021, would we want to say or do the same things in forums in 2009 or 2006 by then. That's the question. Did you fight all the way from 2006 to 2009 only to see square 1 in 2016.

(Of course, if by then I or they are no longer around, then the question is moot.)

 

[lockeliberal]

Dear Perspective

Why worry if you will be at sq one in 2016 when you cannot get beyond square one in 2009/2010 ? Worry abt 2009/2010 first then if all things turn out well worry abt 2016 then




Locke

 

[Perspective]

To people like me it may be better not to go through 2009/2010 if no attempt is made on preconditions rather than go through and lose it all later.

 

[lockeliberal]

Dear Perspective

Just out of curiosity what pre conditions did u have in mind ? I mean honestly you sound like the guy who worries about how he will spent foolishly all his TOTO winnings on wine women and song when he errr has not even bought a toto ticket yet.

It will be hard enough to win a seat, even harder to keep the seat, but why worry about keeping the seat when u can't even or have not even won a damm seat ?


Locke

 

[Goh Meng Seng]

Hahaha! Quite aptly put!

Goh Meng Seng

Dear Perspective

Just out of curiosity what pre conditions did u have in mind ? I mean honestly you sound like the guy who worries about how he will spent foolishly all his TOTO winnings on wine women and song when he errr has not even bought a toto ticket yet.

It will be hard enough to win a seat, even harder to keep the seat, but why worry about keeping the seat when u can't even or have not even won a damm seat ?


Locke

 

[Perspective]

why worry about keeping the seat when u can't even or have not even won a damm seat ?

You're like saying why do you study for exams when you are a poor student.

 

[lockeliberal]

Dear Perspective

What I am saying is if u are a poor pri 3 student, concentrate and practise hard for the pri Three exam before WORRYING abt passing the PSLE.

You seem to delight in worrying more about the PRI six exam when you have not even passed P3............One step at a time, Btw what pre conditions ?



Locke