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Brazil : No masks, no vaccine , no measures....no end to covid crisis

Lockdown has a purpose and a 1st step to meet these objectives:

1. Stop international and domestic flights which the spread wld have come from afar.

2. Lockdown all suburbs from spreading in 3the country.

3. Social distancing between and among humans to stop cross contamination on contact surfaces and airborne spread.

4. Stay home to stop spread between family and relative spreading.

5. All these necessary measures is not to inundated the hospital resources with overwhelming CV patients stressing the medical staffs to break the camel back.

I rest my case.

The steps you mention above were the key to the "flatten the curve" strategy which was what started this whole charade.

However because the virus was so mild very few ERs were overwhelmed and emergency services soon realised that ventilators were not the correct strategy either.

The narrative then changed to one of "zero Covid" which was never going to happen because the virus was already endemic way back in April 2020.
 
The steps you mention above were the key to the "flatten the curve" strategy which was what started this whole charade.

However because the virus was so mild very few ERs were overwhelmed and emergency services soon realised that ventilators were not the correct strategy either.

The narrative then changed to one of "zero Covid" which was never going to happen because the virus was already endemic way back in April 2020.

And.... we are on the same page..... different narrative of context...

How do u explain the India 2nd wave explosion?
 
And.... we are on the same page..... different narrative of context...

How do u explain the India 2nd wave explosion?


Seems to be the pattern of viral respiratory illnesses. This is what the Spanish flu looked like. Even the lame attempts by humans to change the course of the infection look very familiar.



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Herd immunity was what the WHO recommended so why blame governments? Do they thinknbrazil can afford pfizer
 
"Science based measures"??? There's no such thing. The virus is going to do what it has to do and that is to infect as many as possible. It will then start to wane.

Governments don't control viruses.

Science says everything you post is wrong, and reduces you into a blithering idiot
 
On the contrary I actually know a great deal and definitely enough to be able to see that regardless of the measures governments take the course of spread of Covid cannot be changed by human intervention.

Lock everyone at home and it might interrupt the spread but unless a country is prepared to lockdown forever all it does is slightly delay the inevitable.

Actually you dont. I have never come across someone as stupid as you with pathetic opinions
 
No it didn't all it did was interrupt the flu just as it interrupted Covid. The flu is back in force and in the UK is killing more people than Covid.

thesun.co.uk


More people dying of flu and pneumonia than Covid for first time since second wave erupted...​


Terri-Ann Williams

4-5 minutes



MORE people are dying of flu and pneumonia than coronavirus for the first time since the second wave erupted, new data has revealed.
Data from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) shows that deaths from Covid are down 28 per cent on last week and are at the lowest number since the week ending September 25.


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Wrong. Again. Call it 0 for 277 tries, all failed

UK has vaccinated almost entire adult population, so you once again look and sound stupid, due to the facts

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55274833

So far, more than 39 million people have had a first vaccine dose - almost 75% of the adult population - and almost 25 million have had a second.
The number of first doses administered each day is now averaging about 190,000 - a drop from an average of about 500,000 in mid-March - as the schedule of second doses kicks in.
An average of more than 400,000 second doses are now being given a day.
 
Of course if nobody is allowed to meet the transmission rate will slow down. However that doesn't get rid of the virus. It just waits till lock downs are lifted and then it starts spreading again.

There is one sure way of eliminating Covid though and that is to cull all those that are even remotely connected to virus. That's how they rid pandemics that infect chickens and cows.

I am going to bookmark this one as perhaps your top ten most stupid opinions
 
Just took a look at the latest data for Brazil. Looks like there is an end in sight and the death rate at its peak was nowhere near as bad as what UK and the USA experienced.

India is doing well too hat off to Modi.

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Wrong. Again. Call it 0 for 278 tries, all failed

Brazil locked down. End of story

And you are a very stupid person
 
Interrupted the flu spread means the mask works. Proven mask stop the spread of respiratory diseases with social distancing between humans.

Herein we classified flu, CV or TB as respiratory diseases. Period.

masks do reduce transmission, but this very stupid leong would like you to think that his cut and paste opinions mean there several billion people wearing them for no reason
 
The cumulative numbers show Brazil doing a lot better than the USA too.

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Wrong. Again. Call it 0 for 279 tries, all failed

Comparing the US to Brazil does nothing but explain gross incompetence.

Your opinions are getting more stupid and ridiculous

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ilians-march-to-demand-bolsonaros-impeachment

Tens of thousands of Brazilians march to demand Bolsonaro’s impeachment​

Protests in over 200 cities and towns in Brazil sparked by president’s handling of the Covid pandemic

00:53
'No to dictatorship': thousands of Brazilians rally against Bolsonaro – video

Tom Phillips in Rio de Janeiro
Sat 29 May 2021 13.59 EDT

Tens of thousands of protesters have poured on to the streets of Brazil’s largest cities to demand the impeachment of President Jair Bolsonaro over his catastrophic response to a coronavirus pandemic that has claimed nearly half a million Brazilian lives.
The demonstrators turned out in more than 200 cities and towns for what is the biggest anti-Bolsonaro mobilisation since Brazil’s Covid outbreak began

“Today is a decisive milestone in the battle to defeat Bolsonaro’s genocidal administration,” said Silvia de Mendonça, 55, a civil rights activist from Brazil’s Unified Black Movement as she led a column of protesters through Rio’s dilapidated city centre.

Osvaldo Bazani da Silva, a 48-year-old hairdresser who lost his younger brother to Covid-19, said: “We can’t lose any more Brazilian lives. We need to hit the streets every single day until this government falls.”
Demonstrators kick a head prop depicting Brazil’s president,Jair Bolsonaro, during a protest in Rio de Janeiro on Saturday.

Demonstrators kick a head prop depicting Brazil’s president, Jair Bolsonaro, during a protest in Rio de Janeiro on Saturday. Photograph: Pilar Olivares/Reuters
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In Rio many marchers carried homemade placards remembering loved ones they have lost to an epidemic that has killed nearly 460,000 Brazilians, the world’s second largest official death toll after the US. “I’m here in his memory,” said Luiz Dantas, 18, clutching a photograph of his grandfather, Sebastião, who died in February aged 75.
“The culprit has a first and a second name,” Dantas claimed, in reference to his country’s far-right president who has repeatedly trivialised the coronavirus as a “little flu” and sabotaged containment efforts such as social distancing or lockdowns.
The civil rights activist Silva de Mendonça

The civil rights activist Silva de Mendonça Photograph: Handout
“I want justice,” the teenager added, shedding tears as he spoke.
Irene Grether, a 69-year-old psychoanalyst who was also at the demo, said two relatives had died as a result of her government’s inaction. “This government is more dangerous than the virus,” she said as thousands of protesters gathered near a statue remembering the anti-slavery resistance leader Zumbi dos Palmares.
Demonstrators protest against Jair Bolsonaro in front of Monumento Zumbi in Rio de Janeiro

Demonstrators protest against Jair Bolsonaro in front of Monumento Zumbi in Rio de Janeiro on Saturday. Photograph: Pilar Olivares/Reuters
Grether’s niece, a 46-year-old economist called Ana Paula Carvalho said she believed Bolsonaro should be brought before the international criminal court in The Hague “for crimes against the Brazilian people”. “He fosters death and destruction,” she said. “Bolsonaro is a Brazilian tragedy.”
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Bolsonaro has defended his response to the pandemic, claiming his dogged opposition to lockdown is designed to project Brazilian livelihoods and jobs. But Carvalho said that by allowing the uncontrolled spread of the virus – and failing to acquire sufficient vaccines – Bolsonaro had destroyed the economy, as well as lives. “Today the Brazilian people have a choice between dying from the virus or of hunger,” she said.
Saturday’s demonstrations – which also took place in major cities including São Paulo, Belo Horizonte, Recife and the capital Brasília, as well as scores of smaller towns – come with Bolsonaro at arguably his lowest ebb since he took office in January 2019.
Polls suggest growing anger at the rightwing populist’s handling of Covid, with 57% of the population now backing his impeachment. A congressional inquiry is currently dissecting Bolsonaro’s calamitous response to the public health crisis with damaging revelations about his government’s conduct being broadcast each night on the news.
Bolsonaro appears particularly rattled by the reemergence of his political rival Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, the former leftist president who looks poised to challenge him for the presidency in next year’s election. In a recent interview with the Guardian Lula, whose political rights were recently restored, said he had no doubt the Brazilian people would “free themselves” from Bolsonaro in 2022. “He could have avoided half of these deaths,” Lula said of Bolsonaro’s reaction to Covid.
Luiz Dantas, 18, who lost his grandfather

Luiz Dantas, 18, who lost his grandfather Photograph: Handout
Roberto Anderson, 67-year-old university professor and environmentalist who was at Saturday’s march, said he felt encouraged by the large turnout that suggested the tide was finally turning against Brazil’s radical rightwing leader.
“People are waking up. Lots of people who voted for Bolsonaro are now wobbling … and the politicians who support him still are opportunists – the moment they see the people organising they will switch sides too,” Anderson
 
If measures were being taken to contain the virus that would be fine. However there are countries that can't tolerate a single case without locking down. It's lunacy.

What is lunacy is you.

You and your forum is a flaming dumpster fire

What's it like being so stupid, with a forum ranked dead last on the Internet?
 
The steps you mention above were the key to the "flatten the curve" strategy which was what started this whole charade.

However because the virus was so mild very few ERs were overwhelmed and emergency services soon realised that ventilators were not the correct strategy either.

The narrative then changed to one of "zero Covid" which was never going to happen because the virus was already endemic way back in April 2020.

Another stupid opinion from an idiot living in a backwater country with no cases

No wonder you are such an idiot
 
Seems to be the pattern of viral respiratory illnesses. This is what the Spanish flu looked like. Even the lame attempts by humans to change the course of the infection look very familiar.



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Wrong. Again. Call it 0 for 280 tries, all failed.

No 2 Pandemics are alike

Another spastic opinion that thankfully is only popular on a worthless forum full of Indians and Conspiracy Theories
 
And.... we are on the same page..... different narrative of context...

How do u explain the India 2nd wave explosion?

trying to bring scientific fact to the argument with this cretin is pointless, he is only interested in cut and paste conspiracy theories popular with the far right Donald Trump crowd and look how that aged

very badly and the facts are clear for all to see

its a desperate attempt to revive this forum due to poor rankings
 
trying to bring scientific fact to the argument with this cretin is pointless, he is only interested in cut and paste conspiracy theories popular with the far right Donald Trump crowd and look how that aged

very badly and the facts are clear for all to see

its a desperate attempt to revive this forum due to poor rankings

He is a nice person, stay cool and made yr objectively. Hope this helps.
 
masks do reduce transmission, but this very stupid leong would like you to think that his cut and paste opinions mean there several billion people wearing them for no reason

This one I agree with you. He is an old man now... cool down.
 
On the contrary I actually know a great deal and definitely enough to be able to see that regardless of the measures governments take the course of spread of Covid cannot be changed by human intervention.

Lock everyone at home and it might interrupt the spread but unless a country is prepared to lockdown forever all it does is slightly delay the inevitable.

u know nuts n talk cock only
 
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