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Chitchat 6-figure dream job at facebook but cannot afford the bay area

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http://www.vox.com/2016/9/14/12892994/facebook-silicon-valley-expensive

it's tough for newcomers who rent and have young families to raise and feed.

By Matt Kulka, September 14, 2016.

It was slowly becoming real. I’d received a message from a Facebook recruiter over LinkedIn in July 2010. In August, I had phone interviews and then an on-site interview. A week after the on-site, I received an offer letter.

Facebook, the company that touched the lives of more than 400 million people per month, wanted to relocate me, my wife, and our infant daughter from Arizona to Silicon Valley so that I could work on the site reliability operations team. It was my dream job, in a place that always had an almost mythical allure to me. When I said yes, I was filled with excitement.

Five years later, I quit. Not because of the job — I loved working at Facebook. I left because I couldn’t afford to live in the Bay Area anymore, even on my generous six-figure Facebook salary.

I grew up dreaming of working in Silicon Valley
As an Ohio teenager in the 1990s, I held Silicon Valley on a pedestal. In my mind, it was a far-off land filled with people like me: people who spent their free time in front of computer screens just getting the darn thing to do interesting things. It’s easy to take for granted these days as computers and devices have infiltrated every corner our lives, but back then it wasn’t uncommon for people to shun the beige boxes and the people who just seemed to “get” them.

I got my first job in tech when I was just 17 years old, at a Cleveland-based internet service provider. It was 1998, and I had a deep admiration for the companies that were formed or hit stride during the early commercialization of the internet: names like Yahoo, eBay, Sun Microsystems, and Apple. Many of them seemed to be located in this one relatively tiny area of the country. Silicon Valley was hallowed ground to me, full of successes and failures, drama and activity.

SILICON VALLEY WAS HALLOWED GROUND TO ME, FULL OF SUCCESSES AND FAILURES, DRAMA AND ACTIVITY
Eventually the pull of Silicon Valley became too strong to resist: I moved to San Francisco in 2004 with only my computer and a few cardboard boxes. I worked remotely for a company based in New Jersey, and even then, being single, making a decent sum for a 23-year-old, and sharing an apartment with a newly met stranger, I quickly found out that the actual living costs add up if you’re not living under a rock. Trying to get a leg up on salary, I sent in some résumés to a few major companies, but the valley was in a recession at the time and I wasn’t even able to obtain an interview.

I relocated again to Arizona in 2005 at the suggestion of an Ohio friend who had settled in there. In the intervening five years, I adjusted nicely to the climate and scenery, found new work, and honed some of my system administration chops.

My first true taste of working for a Silicon Valley company came across in 2009 when I was hired by PayPal to be a part of its Scottsdale, Arizona, network operation center. At the time, I felt like even if this was as close as I got to working in Silicon Valley proper, my teenage self would still be proud.

Working at Facebook is like Disneyland for tech folk
There were plenty of considerations surrounding taking the Facebook offer. Could I survive in a place where almost everyone is imported top-tier talent? My doubts mounted as I remembered my first ill-fated run in San Francisco. I wasn’t looking forward to finding housing. I also had a 3-month-old daughter now and couldn’t afford to retreat in failure for a second time.

But I knew that if I didn’t take the job, I would always wonder what the ride would’ve been like. Behemoth companies don’t rise very often, and the prospect of being a part of one that was pre-IPO was exciting. After weighing the benefits and concerns with my wife, we decided to accept the offer for my dream job.

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he could have tried owning a house in outlying areas such as antioch, brentwood, livermore or tracy at around usd700k for a 3-bedroom single family home and hopped on the facebook bus at san ramon or pleasanton for the daily commute. there are options, it's a sacrifice on one income earner, but this guy wants his mancave cheap and huge. there are much cheaper homes with huge mancaves in gilroy, los banos, salinas, paso robles, watsonville which are not as remote and out of touch as towns in arizona.
 
The high cost of housing in the area was a talking point when I was there way back in the early 80s.

Nothing has changed.
 
First of all the writer must ask himself who he voted for. Then he need to ask himself if he eat at hawker centre, food court or restaurant.

By the way Gilroy outlet shopping is the best.
 
The high cost of housing in the area was a talking point when I was there way back in the early 80s.

Nothing has changed.

it's different from the rest of america as the epicenter constantly generates new tech and wealth. if they don't buy in then and now when they have a sliver of chance they will never be able to in the future without grit and sacrifice. my friends who bought land in los altos hills in the 80s and built their homes for a total of usd500k (land and house) have seen offers appreciate to usd5m today. a similar sized home in palo alto which was bought in the 80s for usd400k is now selling at usd4m. very close to zuckerberg's new palace which ironically comprises 6 previous properties of similar sized lots. afterall, in terms of $ per square footage, sinkies are wealthier, thanks to the pap.
 
First of all the writer must ask himself who he voted for. Then he need to ask himself if he eat at hawker centre, food court or restaurant.

By the way Gilroy outlet shopping is the best.


now the popular outlet mall is in milpitas - the great mall (former ford auto factory). coach has the best selling store with the most revenue and profit. michael kors is remodelling their store to be on par with coach in size and appeal. other bag stores are jumping on the same bandwagon. in terms of shoe stores, the variety at great mall beats gilroy. but lately a mass invasion of ah nehs here. great mall is becumming grit mall, and milpitas is turning into muthuprata.
 
now the popular outlet mall is in milpitas - the great mall (former ford auto factory). coach has the best selling store with the most revenue and profit. michael kors is remodelling their store to be on par with coach in size and appeal. other bag stores are jumping on the same bandwagon. in terms of shoe stores, the variety at great mall beats gilroy. but lately a mass invasion of ah nehs here. great mall is becumming grit mall, and milpitas is turning into muthuprata.


Rofl good to see your surrounded by nehs guess you like them and prefer them over your kind
 
Besides backing up data, why does fb need so many staffs and silicon valley whereas sbf just need 2to3 staff and locate in toa payoh?
Just a matter of time all these platforms sunset :rolleyes:
 
the winning touch of FB is capturing pple's mind thru emotional attachment, eg. updates from friends and loved ones. i doubt there will be any stronger contender for this in the social media arena. Linkedin is more for job and business networking, professionals use them for hunting leads.
 
Besides backing up data, why does fb need so many staffs and silicon valley whereas sbf just need 2to3 staff and locate in toa payoh?
Just a matter of time all these platforms sunset :rolleyes:

most of the staff in palo alto and menlo park are in software in both user app, targetted advertising and network analytics. for new server software, they need a server farm to test it, do friendly trials, run through regression and exhaustive debugging, quality control, and finally operate it as in production release before replication or farming out (no pun intended) to all their data centers all over the world. the prototyping in data and net ops has to happen inhouse where all the software creators and debuggers reside. and then there are rows of dev op labs. because dev op labs are physical and capital intensive besides the talent required, it's not easy and cost effective to replicate them all over the world. this is especially true for apple as they also design chipsets, hardware, and test rf, analog, baseband and digital components.
 
most of the staff in palo alto and menlo park are in software in both user app, targetted advertising and network analytics. for new server software, they need a server farm to test it, do friendly trials, run through regression and exhaustive debugging, quality control, and finally operate it as in production release before replication or farming out (no pun intended) to all their data centers all over the world. the prototyping in data and net ops has to happen inhouse where all the software creators and debuggers reside. and then there are rows of dev op labs. because dev op labs are physical and capital intensive besides the talent required, it's not easy and cost effective to replicate them all over the world. this is especially true for apple as they also design chipsets, hardware, and test rf, analog, baseband and digital components.

Over the years I didn't noticed much changes to fb after all the development , test & debugging. Besides I presume since this is not a direct business transaction site, the sla should not be as stringent as other critical business . Should be more to the advertisers than the user's since is foc.
Apple has physical products and I know a big % of their staffs are in the call centers .
 
information technology is going to be intangible from one's life. whether you like it or not, it's going to stay. it's important and critical to stay relevant in today's world. if you think that social media tool like FB is useless and a hassle, you are going to feel miserable cos' you will be outdated on what is going on. i have met senior pple who are checking into hospitals, they die die want to bring their laptops with them, solely to surf internet and update themselves with news. but the concern is how good can someone filter the real stuff from the fake ones. you gotta be aware...:eek:
 
Facebook is an easy app to maintain, so working there is not challenging, it's just a collect the money and enjoy life job. Try working at Blizzard Entertainment, he won't have time to spend his money.
 
rubbish,u know what place where home prices are skyrocketing?arthur rd and goodman rd near mountbatten rd and fort rd,this is a area where its primarily landed residences,over the past decade under loong's reign,its like im witnessing a mad race to see who can build the biggest and most ludicrous house.theres a shitskin,whose front car porch literally looks like a roman palace,huge driveway,huge humongous marble pillars and a overarching roof and domineering doors.......theres another guys whose house is so big and the walls are so tall the entrance at the side for people to enter the house literally looks like a hobbit hole or cave.they are no longer building ordinary two story semi de and three storey bungalows,they are building the suite to dowton abbey.

[video=youtube;n7ULKKJ5UpI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7ULKKJ5UpI[/video]
 
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Ah i see. No wonder the west always stereotypes shit skins as tanner versions of white people.

priyanka chopra is the new desi babe on american tv. you have to turn every thread into a discussion about shitskin. wait till you see priyanka. you'll start appreciating these desi's.
 
that's coz of their persian ancestry, and i recall someone here claimed to be one - till he became burmese!

aryan lineage. pundeks in germany claim they are the original contributors of the germanic language. heil-fakh-lutin. :D
 
priyanka chopra is the new desi babe on american tv. you have to turn every thread into a discussion about shitskin. wait till you see priyanka. you'll start appreciating these desi's.
Does that shit skin look like the majority of shit skins? weren't you talking about shit skins first?
 
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