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Ok so at a very technical/ genetic level, they are humans. But I am not talking technically here. My point is they are not the ‘same kind’ of humans we are. They have different cultural and moral bearings and these differences need to be acknowledged so that we can decide how to deal with this group of people.
To show you the differences, am going to highlight four main areas in which these indians/banglas differ from us. For some of you, these revelations about their cultural aspects and moral bearings might be shocking. I’ve tried my best to link all my examples to the relevant source articles for further readings.
1. Treatment of women
From child brides to their attitude towards rape or their general treatment of women. I really don’t know where to begin.’Perhaps I shall focus on rape since it’s a ‘hot topic Do you know in India, it is not a husband cannot rape his wife? Every 18 hours, in Delhi alone, it is estimated that a woman is raped. And if you do try to charge a guy for rape, they will get doctors to ‘assess how loose she is’ as the girl would have to convince the courts that she ‘had modesty’/ of good character if she is to win the case. This is because their interpretation of ‘outrage of modesty’ laws results in rape only being possible if the girl had modesty to begin with. If she is not ‘pure’ or whatever, she technically can’t accuse people of raping her.
2. Corruption
India is one of the most corrupt countries in the world. It is ranked 94th out of 177 countries (which is probably inflated upwards due to corruption anyway). Their society ave been plagued by numerous multi-billion dollar scandals that lead all the way to the highest offices in government. (Recent ones include the coal scandal implicating the ‘most righteous Indian PM ever’ was implicated and the telecoms scandal).And it’s not only the big cases, their corruption seeps through to every opportunity at ground level. You can see shop-house hotels illogically boasting 4-star hotel ratings. People in suits still trying to hustle you for an extra one or two dollars. It’s almost as if they need to earn some bribe money to ‘feel indian’.
They do not remorse over such actions, in fact, they accept it as a way of life- or a way of doing business. Anybody trying to make business arrangements with Indian counterparts can vouch for this.
3. Inability to do anything properly
By themselves, these people have to be some of the most useless people in the world. They can hardly execute any self-driven project properly. Even if it is matter such as the Commonwealth games, they would still rather be indian than to come together to do a good job to show what they can do to the world. Just weeks before the start of the commonwealth games was meant to begin, built infrastructure were falling apart ect. Even the food was believed to give some athletes food poisoning.
But collapsing buildings is nothing new in these parts of the world. every other day, somewhere in India a building (at least partially) collapses (even in the big cities like Delhi and Mumbai). This is especially ironic given the fact that when they have so much quality construction experience from working in more developed countries (under the supervision of the ‘developed citizens’ of the host countries of course).
4. Don’t value Human Life
Indians have long shown a lack of regard for human life. They, as a society, have shown little or no effort to improve the access to basic essentials to human life such as access to basic healthcare, clean water ect. This is evident by their recent expenditure choices where they’d rather spend billions of dollars on a space program than to ensure food security and access to clean water to all citizens.
This attitude is not only at the government level, even on the ground, the people of these societies repeatedly display a nonchalant attitude over the murder of innocents. People kill their victims after raping them. In fact, the begging syndicates steal and drug (with alcohol and opium ect.) babies just to give them to women to go around and begging for money. Often, these babies die from drug overdose but the dead bodies are still used ‘as props’ to garner sympathy to get more donations from the public. Even in religious events, people repeatedly get killed because of human ‘stampedes’. It is ridiculous. Perhaps what is more ridiculous is their lack of effort to prevent future repetitions of said events.
This does not happen everywhere!
A common (and tiring) retort is that these acts happen in every country. This is bullshit. First of all, the worst of these places can hardly be matched (case for case) by the worst of developed nations. Even if you extrapolate for population size, how many cases in countries like Singapore, France, UK ect. (where such incidents always reach the media) do you hear of a group of men raping a women and beating her to death in the process? How many such cases have you heard from India (which is far less transparent) have you heard off in the past year alone? Also, another indicator of cultural and moral differences is societies response/ reactions to such atrocities. Do you know that in India, female scientists and other prominent figures have publicly proclaimed that women who get raped only have themselves to blame?. This is also why the argument that ‘these acts are carried out by a small group of individuals and that it is not reflective of the larger population’ does not hold water. Because of the sheer volume of the groups directly involved and the reaction from the ‘non-participating’ portion of society is not as opposive as it should be.
They have limited thinking ability
We must also acknowledge that they cannot reason/ understand as much reason as we’d like to. The average IQ if people from India is 82, whereas the average of IQ of Singaporeans is 109. this is a huge difference in intellectual capability. Therefore, it would not be very reasonable for us to expect them to understand our rationale for doing things our way. Education is an ideal, not always a solution.
Conclusion
Do notice that all these examples are from 2012/ 2013. This is not a case of digging out every bad incident in the history of India. These events really occur regularly as part of their society.
Though the recent riot was due to the Indian/Bangla FTs here, the moral and cultural differences do not start or stop to this community. They apply to every other (relatively) third world state. I can easily go on about how PRC people eat babies, leave kids who got into an accident to die on the road, children being able to sell their kidney for an iPhone ect.
To conclude, I think the first step our society needs to take is to accept that these people are not the same as us - that they do not think like us, they do not hold the same culture, morals and values as us. Only then we can productively discuss the steps we can take to tackle the issue.
Who is to blame for the riot? Definetly the government. But I blame the liberals more. They have been campaigning for ages for more rights for this migrant workers. Trying to fight for them to have a day off without thinking about the repercussions. See what happens? In my following article, I will be proposing immediate steps we need to take to reverse some recent policies and implement new ones to prevent such catastrophes in the future.
SG Bangla
*The author blogs at http://sgbangla.wordpress.com
To show you the differences, am going to highlight four main areas in which these indians/banglas differ from us. For some of you, these revelations about their cultural aspects and moral bearings might be shocking. I’ve tried my best to link all my examples to the relevant source articles for further readings.
1. Treatment of women
From child brides to their attitude towards rape or their general treatment of women. I really don’t know where to begin.’Perhaps I shall focus on rape since it’s a ‘hot topic Do you know in India, it is not a husband cannot rape his wife? Every 18 hours, in Delhi alone, it is estimated that a woman is raped. And if you do try to charge a guy for rape, they will get doctors to ‘assess how loose she is’ as the girl would have to convince the courts that she ‘had modesty’/ of good character if she is to win the case. This is because their interpretation of ‘outrage of modesty’ laws results in rape only being possible if the girl had modesty to begin with. If she is not ‘pure’ or whatever, she technically can’t accuse people of raping her.
2. Corruption
India is one of the most corrupt countries in the world. It is ranked 94th out of 177 countries (which is probably inflated upwards due to corruption anyway). Their society ave been plagued by numerous multi-billion dollar scandals that lead all the way to the highest offices in government. (Recent ones include the coal scandal implicating the ‘most righteous Indian PM ever’ was implicated and the telecoms scandal).And it’s not only the big cases, their corruption seeps through to every opportunity at ground level. You can see shop-house hotels illogically boasting 4-star hotel ratings. People in suits still trying to hustle you for an extra one or two dollars. It’s almost as if they need to earn some bribe money to ‘feel indian’.
They do not remorse over such actions, in fact, they accept it as a way of life- or a way of doing business. Anybody trying to make business arrangements with Indian counterparts can vouch for this.
3. Inability to do anything properly
By themselves, these people have to be some of the most useless people in the world. They can hardly execute any self-driven project properly. Even if it is matter such as the Commonwealth games, they would still rather be indian than to come together to do a good job to show what they can do to the world. Just weeks before the start of the commonwealth games was meant to begin, built infrastructure were falling apart ect. Even the food was believed to give some athletes food poisoning.
But collapsing buildings is nothing new in these parts of the world. every other day, somewhere in India a building (at least partially) collapses (even in the big cities like Delhi and Mumbai). This is especially ironic given the fact that when they have so much quality construction experience from working in more developed countries (under the supervision of the ‘developed citizens’ of the host countries of course).
4. Don’t value Human Life
Indians have long shown a lack of regard for human life. They, as a society, have shown little or no effort to improve the access to basic essentials to human life such as access to basic healthcare, clean water ect. This is evident by their recent expenditure choices where they’d rather spend billions of dollars on a space program than to ensure food security and access to clean water to all citizens.
This attitude is not only at the government level, even on the ground, the people of these societies repeatedly display a nonchalant attitude over the murder of innocents. People kill their victims after raping them. In fact, the begging syndicates steal and drug (with alcohol and opium ect.) babies just to give them to women to go around and begging for money. Often, these babies die from drug overdose but the dead bodies are still used ‘as props’ to garner sympathy to get more donations from the public. Even in religious events, people repeatedly get killed because of human ‘stampedes’. It is ridiculous. Perhaps what is more ridiculous is their lack of effort to prevent future repetitions of said events.
This does not happen everywhere!
A common (and tiring) retort is that these acts happen in every country. This is bullshit. First of all, the worst of these places can hardly be matched (case for case) by the worst of developed nations. Even if you extrapolate for population size, how many cases in countries like Singapore, France, UK ect. (where such incidents always reach the media) do you hear of a group of men raping a women and beating her to death in the process? How many such cases have you heard from India (which is far less transparent) have you heard off in the past year alone? Also, another indicator of cultural and moral differences is societies response/ reactions to such atrocities. Do you know that in India, female scientists and other prominent figures have publicly proclaimed that women who get raped only have themselves to blame?. This is also why the argument that ‘these acts are carried out by a small group of individuals and that it is not reflective of the larger population’ does not hold water. Because of the sheer volume of the groups directly involved and the reaction from the ‘non-participating’ portion of society is not as opposive as it should be.
They have limited thinking ability
We must also acknowledge that they cannot reason/ understand as much reason as we’d like to. The average IQ if people from India is 82, whereas the average of IQ of Singaporeans is 109. this is a huge difference in intellectual capability. Therefore, it would not be very reasonable for us to expect them to understand our rationale for doing things our way. Education is an ideal, not always a solution.
Conclusion
Do notice that all these examples are from 2012/ 2013. This is not a case of digging out every bad incident in the history of India. These events really occur regularly as part of their society.
Though the recent riot was due to the Indian/Bangla FTs here, the moral and cultural differences do not start or stop to this community. They apply to every other (relatively) third world state. I can easily go on about how PRC people eat babies, leave kids who got into an accident to die on the road, children being able to sell their kidney for an iPhone ect.
To conclude, I think the first step our society needs to take is to accept that these people are not the same as us - that they do not think like us, they do not hold the same culture, morals and values as us. Only then we can productively discuss the steps we can take to tackle the issue.
Who is to blame for the riot? Definetly the government. But I blame the liberals more. They have been campaigning for ages for more rights for this migrant workers. Trying to fight for them to have a day off without thinking about the repercussions. See what happens? In my following article, I will be proposing immediate steps we need to take to reverse some recent policies and implement new ones to prevent such catastrophes in the future.
SG Bangla
*The author blogs at http://sgbangla.wordpress.com