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Darwin Theory of Evolution has been proven scientifically

drifteri

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i already have a postgrad in science.

wow wow, you are more educated than lim bei:wink:

Soooooo you must have no sweat answering these questions:

1. How your lau bei produce you? Ejeculation or masterbation?

2. Why a normal produced baby needs millions of sperms through natural ejeculation? Can special selection explain it?

3. Why deformed babies exist when intelligent design is behind?
 

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you rely on the bible for treatment of diseases and infection..............


Since when my message is about the teaching of treatment of infectious? The message is about mutation of cells and how cellular mutation is creating havoc in the medical community. Mutation can never never be beneficial and there is no such thing as beneficial mutation. Furthermore, however 'fittest' the cell has become after it mutated, it still remains as cell. You cannot change from a fish to a frog just by mutating the cells of fish.. This is a proven scientific fact. If it could, it would be done already in the lab.

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chinese psalm23.... you have forsaken the gods of your ancestors and embrace angmoh gods.
your ancestors worshipped the chinese gods for more than 5000 years and now in this generation, you decide to "switch god"?

is the angmoh god more powerful than your ancestor's chinese god?

Fishy,

Don't be a sour loser! Just stick to the point and tell us what you know about mutations and how mutations could transform a cat into a dog; or a fish into a frog.

Also, note that Christianity is not an Ang Moh God. Jews are not Ang Moh. Jews and Jews. Furthermore, if you go to the Chinese history, ancient emperors (before Buddhism spread to China), these ancient emperors did not worship idols. They just acknowledge that there is a Heaven Being (or God). This God, though unnamed but was worship by all ancient emperors. It was only after Buddhism spread to China and after Taoism was founded that emperors started to worship idols, Buddha and ancestor worship.

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Since when my message is about the teaching of treatment of infectious? The message is about mutation of cells and how cellular mutation is creating havoc in the medical community. Mutation can never never be beneficial and there is no such thing as beneficial mutation. Furthermore, however 'fittest' the cell has become after it mutated, it still remains as cell. You cannot change from a fish to a frog just by mutating the cells of fish.. This is a proven scientific fact. If it could, it would be done already in the lab.

Psalm23

Why are you so stupid? vamjok already explained very clearly.

Evolution is not overnight magic.

1. Why a normal produced baby needs millions of sperms through natural ejeculation? Can special selection explain it?

2. Why deformed babies exist when intelligent design is behind?

We are sick of your craps. :wink:
 

Psalm23

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stop pretending as if you went to medical school please. there are tons of case studies proving otherwise. a good case study emergence of

"black plague resistance gene"

which is currently responsible for resistance to HIV as well.

In fact if we were to travel back to the past and get in contact with people of the past, most likely through direct connection with us. a plague will be spread throughout killing many of that period. A perfect illustration of this is when we get in contact with africa tribe whose genetic coding are much preserved and closer to the ancient, less diverse with respect to the outside world. most in the tribe will died due to disease. we human evolve genetically generation after generations. only idiots uneducated fuck like you think otherwise. why am i typing all these when i believe stupid fuck like you that never pass O level will not be able to comprehend anyway.

2 words as usual. kam lan.

u can expect things like current forward/reverse chemical genetic techniques to magically change a fruitflies to human very much shows your stupidity. zero common sense.

confirm O level also never pass

Rojak Scientist,

Welcome back! I thought you have given up and has converted to believe in Jesus. Apparent, you have not.

I am shocked to read your message. You message above isn't fully supported what I have mentioned. Mutations will cause diseases and many plagues that killed million of people were due to the 'run-away' viruses or bacteria that medicine during that time couldn't effect fight agains the diseases.

I think fruitfly is always brought up by you to try to prove evolution works. But you are lying to the readers. Fruitflies that were born by the parent fruitflies that were subject to cruel treatment of exposing to all kinds of chemical and radiation proved that they still remained fruitflies and they cannot survive in the wild. These genetically-modified fruitflies were all disabled or deformed. Isnt' it is a fact the four-winged fruitflies scientists include some rojak scientists like you were excited at first then later realised that the additional pairs of wings were a hindered to the fruitflies. They did have the muscles and these additional pairs were just useless. If only these fruitflies could protest, they would tell you that please take away this additional pair of wings. Likewise, no parent is going to be happy when they see their new born babies with additional fingers or additional toes. Reason is simple. This additional fingers or toes is going to tell the parents that their children have big problems in the genes. I am sure you too wouldn't like this to happen to your children. Certainly I will be very sad if that happened to my children. But thank God, It has not happened to me.

And interesting to note that you have positively proved another of my point. None of your message so far has shown us mutation has given rise any advantage. On the contrary, you has just shown to us that mutation of genes is the primary cause of many dread diseases and you have illustrated with the black plague/HIV. Something really wrong with you I think......Your message seems to be supporting what I am telling the readers but yet you still 'disagree' with what I am saying.

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Psalm23,
You are very stupid and talk like big fuck scientist :wink:

See you still unable to answer my questions :wink: Creationist Science is wrong :wink:
Millions of sperms proof natural selection is right :wink:
 

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as usual, beat around the bush throw smoke screen when proven wrong.
 

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Fishy,

Don't be a sour loser! Just stick to the point and tell us what you know about mutations and how mutations could transform a cat into a dog; or a fish into a frog.

Also, note that Christianity is not an Ang Moh God. Jews are not Ang Moh. Jews and Jews. Furthermore, if you go to the Chinese history, ancient emperors (before Buddhism spread to China), these ancient emperors did not worship idols. They just acknowledge that there is a Heaven Being (or God). This God, though unnamed but was worship by all ancient emperors. It was only after Buddhism spread to China and after Taoism was founded that emperors started to worship idols, Buddha and ancestor worship.

Psalm23

Don't anyhow bullshit here. What the fuck 'unnamed god' you talking about? You want to forsake your ancestors go worship ang mo god please go ahead, but please dont anyhow bullshit chinese history to support your Pinkerton behavior.

Yes, jews to us are angmos. romanians , russians, bosnians, italians, swedes, croations, poles, bulgarians...ALL are ang mos!
 

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Fishy,

Don't be a sour loser! Just stick to the point and tell us what you know about mutations and how mutations could transform a cat into a dog; or a fish into a frog.

Also, note that Christianity is not an Ang Moh God. Jews are not Ang Moh. Jews and Jews. Furthermore, if you go to the Chinese history, ancient emperors (before Buddhism spread to China), these ancient emperors did not worship idols. They just acknowledge that there is a Heaven Being (or God). This God, though unnamed but was worship by all ancient emperors. It was only after Buddhism spread to China and after Taoism was founded that emperors started to worship idols, Buddha and ancestor worship.

Psalm23

ang moh dick licker Psalm23,
Another liar for Jesus and sore loser still whining here with lies and crappy materials. The jews rejected Christianity. Christianity is a ang moh religion created by a roman emperor. It was brutally instated as the official religion of the roman empire. Anyone that didn't accept it will be persecuted as heretic. That is a piece of historical fact. The ancient chinese concept of heaven and earth is very different from your ang moh God.:mad: Don't spew craps and nonsenses here, ang moh dick sucker. :eek: Don't mislead people here with your crappy history and science. :mad: You deserved to be whacked and trashed next:biggrin: lanjia kia.

A simple example of beneficial mutation is skin tone changes. :oIo::oIo:
 

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Biologists are uncovering thousands of examples of how mutations lead to new traits and even new species.

Most people lose the ability to digest milk by their teens. A few thousand years ago, however, after the domestication of cattle, several groups of people in Europe and Africa independently acquired mutations that allow them to continue digesting milk into adulthood. Genetic studies show there has been very strong selection for these mutations, so they were clearly very beneficial.

Most biologists would see this as a gain in information: a change in environment (the availability of cow's milk as food) is reflected by a genetic mutation that lets people exploit that change (gaining the ability to digest milk as an adult). Creationists, however, dismiss this as a malfunction, as the loss of the ability to switch off the production of the milk-digesting enzyme after childhood. lol..


Some monkeys have a mutation in a protein called TRIM5 that results in a piece of another, defunct protein being tacked onto TRIM5. The result is a hybrid protein called TRIM5-CypA, which can protect cells from infection with retroviruses such as HIV. Here, a single mutation has resulted in a new protein with a new and potentially vital function. New protein, new function, new information.

Although such an event might seem highly unlikely, it turns out that the TRIM5-CypA protein has evolved independently in two separate groups of monkeys. In general, though, the evolution of a new gene usually involves far more than one mutation. The most common way for a new gene to evolve is for an existing gene to be duplicated. Once there are two or more copies, each can evolve in separate directions.
 

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Mutation really lead to the evolution of new species!

Yes. Several species of abalone shellfish have evolved due to mutations in the protein "key" on the surface of sperm that binds to a "lock" on the surface of eggs. This might appear impossible, but it turns out that some eggs are prepared to be penetrated by deviant sperm.In yeasts, the mutations that led to some new species forming have not only been identified, they have even been reversed.

Evolution is proven again and again. Evolution is so real and observable. Creationism crap is crushed again and again. Very certainly, Bible is fake and bullshit.

:oIo::oIo:
 

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Toronto and Vamjok are right! One of their points on mutation being beneficial to the organisms themselves. The problem is with Mr Psalm123 limited and skewed understanding of true science. And tainted view of history too!

In the past, superstitious Christians believed diseases were caused by Satan and his demons. We know that is not true. I think psalm123 is deeply indulged and devoured by his ang moh deity mythology.
 

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Toronto and Vamjok are right! One of their points on mutation being beneficial to the organisms themselves. The problem is with Mr Psalm123 limited and skewed understanding of true science. And tainted view of history too!

In the past, superstitious Christians believed diseases were caused by Satan and his demons. We know that is not true. I think psalm123 is deeply indulged and devoured by his ang moh deity mythology.

Actually the proper view is that mutation is neither skew towards positive/negative end of the spectrum. is more of a random factor, but those that benefit the organism at that particular environment the trait will be carry on to the next generation. what might benefit the organism in this particular environment might not be for another organism in another environment. over the years due to separations, availability of resources, separate species emerged.
 
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Fishy,

Don't be a sour loser! Just stick to the point and tell us what you know about mutations and how mutations could transform a cat into a dog; or a fish into a frog.

Also, note that Christianity is not an Ang Moh God. Jews are not Ang Moh. Jews and Jews. Furthermore, if you go to the Chinese history, ancient emperors (before Buddhism spread to China), these ancient emperors did not worship idols. They just acknowledge that there is a Heaven Being (or God). This God, though unnamed but was worship by all ancient emperors. It was only after Buddhism spread to China and after Taoism was founded that emperors started to worship idols, Buddha and ancestor worship.

Psalm23

chinese as a race has more than 5,000 frigging years of civilisation. only at your generation did the religion got changed to a western religion. Now, did Cao Cao, Lu bei, Qin shi huang, Genghis Khan and all the people of the ancient believe a western religion? Not until the late 1800s when the 8 nations start to invade China and start to divide it up, thus spreading christianity in China.

Just look at yourself, did your father believe in jesus? did your grandfather believe in jesus? did your great grandfather believe in jesus? the answer is No!

you have dishonored your ancestors by embracing the religions of the past conquerors and colonizers.
 

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Toronto and Vamjok are right! One of their points on mutation being beneficial to the organisms themselves. The problem is with Mr Psalm123 limited and skewed understanding of true science. And tainted view of history too!

In the past, superstitious Christians believed diseases were caused by Satan and his demons. We know that is not true. I think psalm123 is deeply indulged and devoured by his ang moh deity mythology.

i can tell you that there are PROFESSORS IN NTU AND NUS that believe in creationism and young earth theory!! yes! all the years of education made little impact on their mind, instead of relying on their learned skills to contemplate life complexities, they rejected them totally and use them to reinforce their pet favorite religion god!

yes, can you bear to hear NUS/NTU science professors denouncing evolution, but support creationism?? incredible!
 

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i can tell you that there are PROFESSORS IN NTU AND NUS that believe in creationism and young earth theory!! yes! all the years of education made little impact on their mind, instead of relying on their learned skills to contemplate life complexities, they rejected them totally and use them to reinforce their pet favorite religion god!

yes, can you bear to hear NUS/NTU science professors denouncing evolution, but support creationism?? incredible!

that is because science is not the absolute truth! it is subjective and there are assumptions when defining equations!. :biggrin:

also it keeps changing!! :biggrin:

how can you contemplate when the variables are always changing? :biggrin:
 
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Why are you so stupid? vamjok already explained very clearly.

Evolution is not overnight magic.

1. Why a normal produced baby needs millions of sperms through natural ejeculation? Can special selection explain it?

2. Why deformed babies exist when intelligent design is behind?

We are sick of your craps. :wink:

And why are you so stupid? I have already explained very clearly and deadly - evolution cannot happen because the process of mutation will drive living cells to a dead end.

If man could only ejeculate only one or few sperms, you will not be here to write your rubbish because you dad would not be able to reproduce with just one or few sperms! God knew before hand because of man's sin. To reproduce, man needs to ejeculate million of sperms to ensure that one healthy will reach the ovary of the woman. It is a medical fact that though there are 200 - 500 million sperms ejeculated, just only is needed to fertilise the egg in the ovary. In fact, many of these 200 - 500 million will die almost instantly and many of them are weak and too unhealthy to survive and to fertilise the egg. The causes are due to man's sin - too much tobacco, stress, alcohol, drugs, etc that made many of the sperms 'unusable.' God knew before hand that this will happen and that's why He created the man reproductive system to produce millions of sperms so that procreation is possible. These are scientific facts.

And deformed babies.....why so stupid to ask this question? It's all because of mutation of the genes that causes deformed babies. When God first created the human - Adam and Eve - their genes were perfect. It was only after they disobeyed God that the genes turns mutants and we inherited their mutant genes. Go to the Bible and we can read that there are no deformed babies during the pre-flood day. Furthermore, the life-span of human was on the downward spiral after the flood. The mutation (negative one of course!) started very slowly but surely. All the negative aspects of human phyisology started to escalated after the flood because of cell mutation, notably the life-span of human race. It is also a medical fact that the maxium limit of human life is 120 years and this lenght of the human life-span is imposed by God (Genesis 6:3) but during the pre-flood days, people lived up to 900 years old. There are reports in the news quite frequently of the oldest man or woman and none, just none had lived more than 120 years. We have heard of people living up to 105, 106 or even 110 but we have never heard of people living up to 120 years. How did the Bible get this life-span limit right?
 
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