First of all, Sayid Al Qimni is a famous writer in Egypt. Thats why they invited him for the interview to seek his views.
Notice that you did not deal with even one point brought up by him. Instead you dismiss his ideas by trying to senselessly discredit him. You need to do better than that to have a meaningful discussion.
Never heard of him. However I've heard of Prof Bart Erhmann. He's even better. A Christian evangelist or should I say ex Christian who has found the truth about his religion when he tried to delve deeper into its history and find out the original manuscripts. He went on to write some really enlightening books that are even found in our very own national libraries. Right here in Singapore!!
Misquoting Jesus is on compelling read.
It's a book on how scribes manipulated and changed n added some of their own words to make them appear as if they were inspired by God when they clearly weren't.
"woe it is on those who write the scripture with their own hands and say this is from God . Woe to them and all that they profit from". (Quran)
Never heard of him.
really? condemning one religion by quoting text from another religion???
I don't recall that I have ever started a thread condemning other pols religion. Whereas You have on many occasions done so.
The pot calling the kettle black here.
In this case totally misplaced when you start pointing a finger at others , four of your own fingers are pointing back at you. Right back at you !!
really? condemning one religion by quoting text from another religion???
I don't recall that I have ever started a thread condemning other pols religion. Whereas You have on many occasions done so.
The pot calling the kettle black here.
In this case totally misplaced when you start pointing a finger at others , four of your own fingers are pointing back at you. Right back at you !!
So you believe its a bad thing to condemn other people's religion?
This question is misdirected hahaha
So you believe its a bad thing to condemn other people's religion?
I am now copying and pasting what Fishbusted posted and wrote in the other thread "how many has god killed"
Originally Posted by OrLanChowHorFun
which book this one from ah ?
i can disturb all the christian people i know mah !
that is just one of the many passages that promotes killing, murders, slavery, rape and genocide in the old testaments.
you can get heaps of those quotes from the bible at www.evilbible.com
the main problem is that christians tried to sugarcoat, divert, deviate, ignore, surrender their thinking logic when it comes to these awful passages.
Here's another sample from the good ol' bible.
Deuteronomy 13
13:1 If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder,
13:2 And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them;
13:3 Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.
13:4 Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him.
13:5 And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee.
13:6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; (13:6-10)
"If thy brother ... or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods ... Thou shalt not consent unto him ... neither shall thine eye pity him ... But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people."
If your brother, son, daughter, wife, or friend tries to get you to worship another god, "thou shalt surely kill him, thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death." If Bible-believers followed this one, they would have to kill many of their own family and friends.
How should nonbelievers be treated?
What the Bible says about non-Christians, stoning, and religious tolerance
(13:7) "From one end of the earth to the other"
When to Stone Your Whole Family
13:7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;
13:8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:
13:9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
13:10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
13:11 And all Israel shall hear, and fear, and shall do no more any such wickedness as this is among you.
13:12 If thou shalt hear say in one of thy cities, which the LORD thy God hath given thee to dwell there, saying,
13:13 Certain men, the children of Belial, are gone out from among you, and have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which ye have not known; (13:12-17) "If thou shalt hear ... men ... saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which ye have not known ... Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword."
If you hear of a city where another god is worshiped, then destroy everyone in the city (even the cattle) and burn it down. (Watch out Salt Lake!)
Martin Luther used these verses to justify burning the synagogues and homes of the Jews.
On the Jews and Their Lies (Part 11)
Religious Intolerance
13:14 Then shalt thou enquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and, behold, if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought among you;
13:15 Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword.
13:16 And thou shalt gather all the spoil of it into the midst of the street thereof, and shalt burn with fire the city, and all the spoil thereof every whit, for the LORD thy God: and it shall be an heap for ever; it shall not be built again.
13:17 And there shall cleave nought of the cursed thing to thine hand: that the LORD may turn from the fierceness of his anger, and shew thee mercy, and have compassion upon thee, and multiply thee, as he hath sworn unto thy fathers;
13:18 When thou shalt hearken to the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep all his commandments which I command thee this day, to do that which is right in the eyes of the LORD thy God.
You seem to have turned a blind eye at his post. But I'm bringing it to your face!!!
really? condemning one religion by quoting text from another religion???
I don't recall that I have ever started a thread condemning other pols religion. Whereas You have on many occasions done so.
The pot calling the kettle black here.
In this case totally misplaced when you start pointing a finger at others , four of your own fingers are pointing back at you. Right back at you !!
come on, dont deny the nature of islam.
please view the other threads where there are tons of evidences that backward societies in the middle east are committing atrocities.
flying planes into building?
blowing bars in bali?
blowing the london bus?
bringing explosive into the plane?
hanging the gays?
stoning the rape victims?
the evidence are all over the place, it would be best that you can examine this and leave the occult of islam.
I believe you are a decent human being and led astrayed by these desert dwelling, superstitious dogma. Surely you can rise up above this!!
come on, dont deny the nature of islam.
please view the other threads where there are tons of evidences that backward societies in the middle east are committing atrocities.
flying planes into building?
blowing bars in bali?
blowing the london bus?
bringing explosive into the plane?
hanging the gays?
stoning the rape victims?
the evidence are all over the place, it would be best that you can examine this and leave the occult of islam.
I believe you are a decent human being and led astrayed by these desert dwelling, superstitious dogma. Surely you can rise up above this!!
You are absolutely right. These atrocities have no place in Islam or any other religion. To do it in the name of Islam just saddens me and misrepresents and distorts the religion of Islam. Where in the Quran you find these verses and a majority of the billion Muslims hold dear :
"kill one innocent being and it is as if you have killed the whole of mankind"(Quran)
"save one being and it is as if you have saved he whole of mankind"
(Quran)
Be rightly guided and if you are interested , just ask the Creator , the Almighty who will be just n merciful. Ask Gid this. Be sincere when you are asking.
"dear God , if there is a God, and If you are there listening, please, guide me"
If u try there is nothing to lose right? What are you afraid of? The spaghetti flying monster?
After all you strike me as a person who is interested in religious affairs.
I have found my religion. Thanks and i will try to correct whatever misconception and misunderstanding there is.
Have a better day
You are absolutely right. These atrocities have no place in Islam or any other religion. To do it in the name of Islam just saddens me and misrepresents and distorts the religion of Islam. Where in the Quran you find these verses and a majority of the billion Muslims hold dear :
"kill one innocent being and it is as if you have killed the whole of mankind"(Quran)
"save one being and it is as if you have saved he whole of mankind"
(Quran)
Be rightly guided and if you are interested , just ask the Creator , the Almighty who will be just n merciful. Ask Gid this. Be sincere when you are asking.
"dear God , if there is a God, and If you are there listening, please, guide me"
If u try there is nothing to lose right? What are you afraid of? The spaghetti flying monster?
After all you strike me as a person who is interested in religious affairs.
I have found my religion. Thanks and i will try to correct whatever misconception and misunderstanding there is.
Have a better day
you say; "I have found my religion."
re·li·gion
[ri-lij-uhn] Show IPA
noun
1.
a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
2.
a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.
3.
the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions.
4.
the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion.
5.
the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.
religions are belief without evidence, and one believes without evidence, then one should know he/she is deluded.
then that means my sphagetti-flying-monster, and kitchen god deserves equal respect as allah and jesus too in the real world.
de·lu·sion
[dih-loo-zhuhn] Show IPA
noun
1.
an act or instance of deluding.
2.
the state of being deluded.
3.
a false belief or opinion: delusions of grandeur.
4.
Psychiatry . a fixed false belief that is resistant to reason or confrontation with actual fact: a paranoid delusion.
we are chinese and we dont believe arab religion. i rather subscribe to REAL SCIENCE WITH REAL FACTS, ANALYSIS and REASONING than some desert, m&d hut dwelling arab's gods.
but not everyone is smart enough to know the difference, i have seen alot of people that want to fool themselves, be ignorant of the real world, and frankly, it is better to smoke pots and get high, than to FACE REALITY!! that goes to all religious believers.
different stroke for different folks. i hope you found your peace. ah salam alehkom.
