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Chitchat This movie shows why China will never be a great country.

kryonlight

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美女公交车上被强暴,竟无人帮忙,真实故事改编

[video=youtube;APJ-em4_xXk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APJ-em4_xXk[/video]

这是十几年前的真事。后来是只有被女生赶下车的大叔,活了下来,并且报了警,车里的人全部掉入山下摔死。只 有大叔为女生伸张正义,所以女生为了感谢大叔,故意把大叔赶下车。女生自己与劫匪还有那些冷漠的乘客,包括 自己男友在内,所有人同归于尽。
 

tanwahtiu

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China will dominate the world but not necessary want to be great..

Only fake angmohs think they are great rely on gunboats only.
 

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WTF a rape of some girl in the bus = China never be a great country? so there are 0 rapes in the US, UK, OZ and rest of Europe? :rolleyes:
 

tanwahtiu

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Many male dont realise they can use their belt to attack the assailant. Go practice how to use the belt buckle to hit at the head or eye of the bastard.

I work for me will work for you.
 

tanwahtiu

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Many male dont know they can use the belt buckle to hit the bastard head or eyes.

Go practice how to us it to attack. Aim at the hand carry the knife will hurt the bastard hard. Buckle is hard metal and can even crack the skull if hit hard enough.

It works for me and shd works for you.
 

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go ask the siao char bors at sph and mediacock, i reckon they yearn to be raped!:rolleyes:
 

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How can I be proud of my China if we are a nation of 1.4bn cold hearts?

Lijia Zhang

The death of the two-year-old run over as passersby ignored her is symptomatic of a deepening moral crisis


Shame on us Chinese! Last Thursday a two-year-old girl was run over twice, about 100 metres from her home in a hardware market district of Foshan, a prosperous city in southern China. As she lay on the ground, writhing in pain, before being hit by the second vehicle, 18 people, on their bicycles, in cars or on foot, passed by but chose to ignore her. Among them a young woman with her own child.

Finally, a 58-year-old female rubbish collector came to the girl's rescue, but it was too late. By the time she was brought to the hospital, the girl Yueyue, (whose name translates as Little Joy), was brain dead. She was declared dead early on Friday morning. She was a good girl, full of life, her mother said a few days ago in an interview. She said she had just brought Yueyue back from her kindergarten. She popped out to collect the dry clothes and returned to find Yueyue gone – probably trying to look for her elder brother.

It might have been a different story if one of the 18 people had lent Yueyue a hand. None even bothered to call for emergency services. Later, when interviewed by a journalist, one of the passersby, a middle-aged man riding a scooter, said with an uncomfortable smile on his face: "That wasn't my child. Why should I bother?"

Before giving himself up to the police, the driver of the second vehicle, a van, told the media why he had run away. "If she is dead, I may pay only about 20,000 yuan (£2,000). But if she is injured, it may cost me hundreds of thousands of yuan." What's wrong with these people? How could they be so cold-hearted? The horrific scene was caught by a surveillance camera and has been watched by millions of viewers since it was posted on Youku, China's equivalent of YouTube.

This is only the latest incident where tragedy has struck as a result of the callous inactivity of onlookers. Last month an 88-year-old man fell over face down at the entrance of a vegetable market near his home. For almost 90 minutes, he was ignored by people in the busy market. After his daughter found him and called an ambulance, the old man died "because of a respiratory tract clogged by a nosebleed". If anyone had turned him over, he might have survived.

Both cases, the death of Yueyue in particular, have provoked much public outrage and a nationwide discussion about morality in today's China. From Shanghai, someone with the cybername 60sunsetred wrote: "The Chinese people have arrived at their most morality-free moment!" There was plenty of condemnation of the cold-heartedness of the passersby. But, astonishingly, a large percentage of posters said they understood why the onlookers did not lend a helping hand. Some admitted they would do the same – for fear of getting into trouble and fear of facing another "Nanjing judge".

Let me explain the story of the muddle-headed Nanjing judge. In 2006, in the capital of Jiangsu province, a young man named Peng Yu helped an old woman who had fallen on the street and took her to a hospital and waited to see if the old woman was all right. Later, however, the woman and her family accused Peng of causing her fall. A judge decided in favour of the woman, based on the assumption that "Peng must be at fault. Otherwise why would he want to help?", saying that Peng acted against "common sense". The outcry from the public in support of Peng forced the court to adjust its verdict and resulted in Peng paying 10% of the costs instead of the total. Since that incident Peng has become a national cautionary tale: the Good Samaritan being framed by the beneficiary of their compassion.

It's true that in China you can get into trouble when you try to help. Weeks ago I spotted an accident on the fourth ring road in Beijing as I returned home one night. A man was hit by a "black car", an "illegal taxi", and his face was all bloody. Watched over by a crowd, the injured man behaved aggressively towards the driver. I got off my scooter. As I tried to pull the two men apart, I was struck myself. When I asked if anyone had reported this to the police, the driver said no. I couldn't believe that people just stared as if enjoying a free show, without doing anything. I called the helpline and the policemen turned up soon after.

The fundamental problem, in my view, lies in one word that describes a state of mind: shaoguanxianshi, meaning don't get involved if it's not your business. In our culture, there's a lack of willingness to show compassion to strangers. We are brought up to show kindness to people in our network of guanxi, family and friends and business associates, but not particularly to strangers, especially if such kindness may potentially damage your interest.

Fei Xiaotong, China's first sociologist, described Chinese people's moral and ethical characteristics in his book, From the Soil, in the middle of the last century. He pointed out that selfishness is the most serious shortcoming of the Chinese. "When we think of selfishness, we think of the proverb 'Each person should sweep the snow from his own doorsteps and should not fret about the frost on his neighbour's roof,'" wrote Fei. He offered the example of how the Chinese of that period threw rubbish out of their windows without the slightest public concern. Things are much the same today.

Under Mao, citizens were forced to behave themselves in both public and private spheres. Every March, people were obliged to go into the street to do good deeds: cleaning buses, fixing bicycles and offering haircuts. Now relaxed social control and commercialisation over the past three decades have led people to behave more selfishly again.

People are enjoying, and sometimes abusing, the vast personal freedoms that didn't exist before. To start with, it is now safe to be "naughty". Back in the early 1980s, when I worked at a rocket factory in Nanjing, one of my colleagues, a married man, was caught having an affair with an unmarried woman. He was given a three-year sentence in a labour camp and the girl was disgraced. In today's society, having extramarital affairs or keeping an ernai – second wife or concubine – is as common as "cow hair", as the Chinese would say. For a novel I am writing on prostitution, I have interviewed many prostitutes and ernai. Many see their profession as a way to gather wealth quickly, feeling few moral qualms.

China's moral crisis doesn't just manifest itself in personal life but also in business practice and many other areas. The high-profile "poisoned milk powder" case and the scandal of using "gutter oil" as cooking oil have shocked and disgusted people around the world. Last year an article, "Why have Chinese lost their sense of morality?", in which the author tried to find an explanation, was widely read. He reasoned that China has introduced the concept of a market economy from the west but failed to import the corresponding ethics, while the traditional moral principles of China no longer fit the market economy model.

There's a lot of sense in that. I believe that the lack of a value system is also deepening the moral crisis. Before Mao, the indifference towards others once so accurately described by Fei existed but was mitigated by a traditional moral and religious system. That system was then almost destroyed by the communists, especially during the 10 mad years of the Cultural Revolution from 1966 to 1976. Nowadays communism, the ideology that dominated Chinese people's lives like a religion, has also more or less collapsed. As a result, there's a spiritual vacuum that cannot be filled by the mere opportunity of money-making.

To drag China out of its moral crisis will be a long battle. The pressing question is how to make people act in cases of emergency and the solution is law. After the "Nanjing case", there have been discussions about introducing a law that imposes a "duty of rescue" as exists in many European countries. I am all for it, because that's probably the only way to propel action for a people who do not see a moral obligation in rescuing others.

The Yueyue incident revealed an ugly side of China. I hope the entire nation will take the opportunity to take a hard look at ourselves and ask ourselves what's wrong with society. There's at least hope in the action of the rubbish collector who rushed to Yueyue's side without hesitation.

China's economy is galloping like a horse without a rein and its position in the world is rising. We Chinese have every reason to feel proud about what we've achieved. Now we demand respect. But how can we possibly win respect and play the role of a world leader if this is a nation with 1.4 billion cold hearts?
 

tanwahtiu

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What u grumble about?

Angmoh just take out their gun and shoot u point blank.

NASA lied to u earth is a globe and round.

Go complaint that earth is flat.

How can I be proud of my China if we are a nation of 1.4bn cold hearts?

Lijia Zhang

The death of the two-year-old run over as passersby ignored her is symptomatic of a deepening moral crisis


Shame on us Chinese! Last Thursday a two-year-old girl was run over twice, about 100 metres from her home in a hardware market district of Foshan, a prosperous city in southern China. As she lay on the ground, writhing in pain, before being hit by the second vehicle, 18 people, on their bicycles, in cars or on foot, passed by but chose to ignore her. Among them a young woman with her own child.

Finally, a 58-year-old female rubbish collector came to the girl's rescue, but it was too late. By the time she was brought to the hospital, the girl Yueyue, (whose name translates as Little Joy), was brain dead. She was declared dead early on Friday morning. She was a good girl, full of life, her mother said a few days ago in an interview. She said she had just brought Yueyue back from her kindergarten. She popped out to collect the dry clothes and returned to find Yueyue gone – probably trying to look for her elder brother.

It might have been a different story if one of the 18 people had lent Yueyue a hand. None even bothered to call for emergency services. Later, when interviewed by a journalist, one of the passersby, a middle-aged man riding a scooter, said with an uncomfortable smile on his face: "That wasn't my child. Why should I bother?"

Before giving himself up to the police, the driver of the second vehicle, a van, told the media why he had run away. "If she is dead, I may pay only about 20,000 yuan (£2,000). But if she is injured, it may cost me hundreds of thousands of yuan." What's wrong with these people? How could they be so cold-hearted? The horrific scene was caught by a surveillance camera and has been watched by millions of viewers since it was posted on Youku, China's equivalent of YouTube.

This is only the latest incident where tragedy has struck as a result of the callous inactivity of onlookers. Last month an 88-year-old man fell over face down at the entrance of a vegetable market near his home. For almost 90 minutes, he was ignored by people in the busy market. After his daughter found him and called an ambulance, the old man died "because of a respiratory tract clogged by a nosebleed". If anyone had turned him over, he might have survived.

Both cases, the death of Yueyue in particular, have provoked much public outrage and a nationwide discussion about morality in today's China. From Shanghai, someone with the cybername 60sunsetred wrote: "The Chinese people have arrived at their most morality-free moment!" There was plenty of condemnation of the cold-heartedness of the passersby. But, astonishingly, a large percentage of posters said they understood why the onlookers did not lend a helping hand. Some admitted they would do the same – for fear of getting into trouble and fear of facing another "Nanjing judge".

Let me explain the story of the muddle-headed Nanjing judge. In 2006, in the capital of Jiangsu province, a young man named Peng Yu helped an old woman who had fallen on the street and took her to a hospital and waited to see if the old woman was all right. Later, however, the woman and her family accused Peng of causing her fall. A judge decided in favour of the woman, based on the assumption that "Peng must be at fault. Otherwise why would he want to help?", saying that Peng acted against "common sense". The outcry from the public in support of Peng forced the court to adjust its verdict and resulted in Peng paying 10% of the costs instead of the total. Since that incident Peng has become a national cautionary tale: the Good Samaritan being framed by the beneficiary of their compassion.

It's true that in China you can get into trouble when you try to help. Weeks ago I spotted an accident on the fourth ring road in Beijing as I returned home one night. A man was hit by a "black car", an "illegal taxi", and his face was all bloody. Watched over by a crowd, the injured man behaved aggressively towards the driver. I got off my scooter. As I tried to pull the two men apart, I was struck myself. When I asked if anyone had reported this to the police, the driver said no. I couldn't believe that people just stared as if enjoying a free show, without doing anything. I called the helpline and the policemen turned up soon after.

The fundamental problem, in my view, lies in one word that describes a state of mind: shaoguanxianshi, meaning don't get involved if it's not your business. In our culture, there's a lack of willingness to show compassion to strangers. We are brought up to show kindness to people in our network of guanxi, family and friends and business associates, but not particularly to strangers, especially if such kindness may potentially damage your interest.

Fei Xiaotong, China's first sociologist, described Chinese people's moral and ethical characteristics in his book, From the Soil, in the middle of the last century. He pointed out that selfishness is the most serious shortcoming of the Chinese. "When we think of selfishness, we think of the proverb 'Each person should sweep the snow from his own doorsteps and should not fret about the frost on his neighbour's roof,'" wrote Fei. He offered the example of how the Chinese of that period threw rubbish out of their windows without the slightest public concern. Things are much the same today.

Under Mao, citizens were forced to behave themselves in both public and private spheres. Every March, people were obliged to go into the street to do good deeds: cleaning buses, fixing bicycles and offering haircuts. Now relaxed social control and commercialisation over the past three decades have led people to behave more selfishly again.

People are enjoying, and sometimes abusing, the vast personal freedoms that didn't exist before. To start with, it is now safe to be "naughty". Back in the early 1980s, when I worked at a rocket factory in Nanjing, one of my colleagues, a married man, was caught having an affair with an unmarried woman. He was given a three-year sentence in a labour camp and the girl was disgraced. In today's society, having extramarital affairs or keeping an ernai – second wife or concubine – is as common as "cow hair", as the Chinese would say. For a novel I am writing on prostitution, I have interviewed many prostitutes and ernai. Many see their profession as a way to gather wealth quickly, feeling few moral qualms.

China's moral crisis doesn't just manifest itself in personal life but also in business practice and many other areas. The high-profile "poisoned milk powder" case and the scandal of using "gutter oil" as cooking oil have shocked and disgusted people around the world. Last year an article, "Why have Chinese lost their sense of morality?", in which the author tried to find an explanation, was widely read. He reasoned that China has introduced the concept of a market economy from the west but failed to import the corresponding ethics, while the traditional moral principles of China no longer fit the market economy model.

There's a lot of sense in that. I believe that the lack of a value system is also deepening the moral crisis. Before Mao, the indifference towards others once so accurately described by Fei existed but was mitigated by a traditional moral and religious system. That system was then almost destroyed by the communists, especially during the 10 mad years of the Cultural Revolution from 1966 to 1976. Nowadays communism, the ideology that dominated Chinese people's lives like a religion, has also more or less collapsed. As a result, there's a spiritual vacuum that cannot be filled by the mere opportunity of money-making.

To drag China out of its moral crisis will be a long battle. The pressing question is how to make people act in cases of emergency and the solution is law. After the "Nanjing case", there have been discussions about introducing a law that imposes a "duty of rescue" as exists in many European countries. I am all for it, because that's probably the only way to propel action for a people who do not see a moral obligation in rescuing others.

The Yueyue incident revealed an ugly side of China. I hope the entire nation will take the opportunity to take a hard look at ourselves and ask ourselves what's wrong with society. There's at least hope in the action of the rubbish collector who rushed to Yueyue's side without hesitation.

China's economy is galloping like a horse without a rein and its position in the world is rising. We Chinese have every reason to feel proud about what we've achieved. Now we demand respect. But how can we possibly win respect and play the role of a world leader if this is a nation with 1.4 billion cold hearts?
 

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i saw a youtube video once by an ang moh once years ago complaining about japan,some jap guy was lieing on the street apparently passed out,drunk,or injured or ill,all the jap people simply avoided looking at the guy and continued walking by and this went on for about 5 minutes,only when the ang moh finally decided to summon up the courage and initiative to approach the guy to check to see if hes alright,only when they saw the ang moh take the initiative only did a few japs started to stray towards them.later they thanked him for his care and concern and tell him to move on and they would take care of the problem themselves.

A mere isolated incident?much later i come across this blog written by a ang moh women describing the same phenomenon in Japan.

On the weekend I posted about being hit by a bus, and vented a little about not being helped by those who witnessed it. I purposely avoided talking about possible reasons for this behavior, because it's a complicated issue and would make an already over-long post even longer. It's also impossible to talk about without making huge generalizations and sounding anti-Japanese, which are things I really want to avoid on this blog.

But since the subject came up in the comments, I'd like to address it.

I've witnessed the phenomenon of strangers ignoring others in need of help so many times in Japan, but until this weekend had only been the victim of it in mild ways (like when I'm lost and in need of directions). The worst I've seen was a homeless man clubbing a kettle over a homeless woman's head, her face and chest covered in blood. Not something you see every day, and considering they were both screaming obscenities at each other, it's somewhat understandable that some people would be reluctant to help. But in this case, all people were reluctant to help- everybody just walked right on by without doing a thing. (This was in Shinjuku Station, one of the biggest and busiest train stations in the world, and there were lots of people passing by.) Hideaki called the police on his cellphone and we decided it was too dangerous to interfere so we just waited for the cops to show up. While we waited we had time to watch the crowd- most just pretended they didn't see the couple (despite the fact that they were in the middle of a corridor and screaming at the top of their lungs), and those who acknowledged the noisy scene merely commented to each other and kept on going. I even heard a few people laughing about it (nervous laughter, no doubt, but that doesn't make it OK).

This was a rather extreme situation, but I'm sure anyone who's lived here any length of time has witnessed or experienced similar behavior. And it can be really disturbing, and make even someone who loves this country like me to question what she is doing here.

So what's the explanation? Some of the commenters on the bus post felt that the Japanese can be reluctant to help because they don't want to cause embarrassment. This may be part of it. It's true that people here almost never do stuff that could embarrass you, like point out if your shirt tag is sticking out or you've got spinach in your teeth or your zipper is hanging open. (Once during a cherry blossom viewing party a bird pooped on my head, and the people I was with actually looked away and pretended not to notice.)

But I think many Japanese are just as concerned about saving themselves from embarrassment. There seems to be a fear of a Don Quixote effect of causing more problems and looking foolish when trying to help a stranger. Interfering with another's business is just not worth the potential hassle.

To be fair, failing to help others in need is not a uniquely Japanese phenomenon, and can be witnessed in much of the world. Instead, I'd say it was more of a city problem, with people in all of the world's big cities ignoring strangers to some extent. But the group-oriented nature of Japanese society does make it worse here, I think.

Japanese people can be extremely kind and helpful to those in their groups- families, class-mates, coworkers, neighbors and so on. In a small town where pretty much everyone belongs to the same group, I'm willing to bet people are far more helpful. But in the cities, especially huge ones like Tokyo, everybody comes from somewhere else, and without a sense of community it's just easier to classify strangers as not part of your group. And there is no obligation to help, or even acknowledge, those who are not in your group.



one of the commentors shared this story of her experience in Japan......

I get to be the first to comment, how cool. Nicely balanced post.
I also noticed another poster saying they thought the emabarrassment explaination was pat. Fair enough, my feelings are more complicated that that, as yours seem to be too. I actually have another story. I passed out on the train on the way to work. It was hot I was dehydrated and hadnt had breakfast. I may have gone more than one station on the floor but I cant be sure. Anyway because my japanese wasnt good at that stage I couldnt say "I need to sit down" and I was too embarrassed to slide to the floor, while I was contemplating this I passed out. Bag and keitai flung to the side, when I came too I thought that I was at home in bed but the bed was kind of hard. When I opened my eyes everyone had moved away from me. No one had touched me when I passed out because I would have noticed because I thought I was in bed........ When I opened my eyes a woman came over to me, asked if I was ok and cleared a seat for me. I was pretty shocked that no one had touched me for at least one train stop. It was kind of scary and I thought as revenge I would eat an onigiri on the train whenever I felt like it because although I would get stares I could stare back thinking "if I passed out you wouldnt help me".




Amazing this "cold hearted" phenomenon exist in Japan?supposedly a first world country with a GDP per capital of $40,000 for many decades compared to a developing country of GDP per cap $7000 and hundreds of millions of its population still peasants working in agriculture?Lets face it the nature of asians do not change,we are deathly afraid of "embarassment" and value face above all else.
 

syed putra

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This movie is so unchinese like bonking without having to pay. i thought only indians do this. and i like the way the boyfriend act like dunno anything happening. or maybe he thanking the rapist for the foreplay saving him hours later on by just bonking the girl right away.
 

greedy and cunning

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China will dominate the world but not necessary want to be great..

Only fake angmohs think they are great rely on gunboats only.

china aims is not world dominion like evil USAss.
what china doing now is just countering the USAss unfair system
NIxon unilaterally ended the gold standard ,
when it is a losing game , USAss just stopped playing.
unfortunately the dollar had been the reserved currency for far too long,
all country central banks keep lot of them in their vaults.
this prevented the collapse of US$ as the 'reserved currency'.

thats why china set up BRICS and other org
china and Russia development of military hardwares
is in direct response to evil USAss forever making new bombs , jet fighters ,etc .
 

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Many male dont realise they can use their belt to attack the assailant. Go practice how to use the belt buckle to hit at the head or eye of the bastard.

I work for me will work for you.

maybe u can start a belt defend school.. teaching female how to use belt to defend against rapist!!! :biggrin:

[video=youtube;QfU8BxiZ9Os]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfU8BxiZ9Os[/video]
 

Jah_rastafar_I

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i saw a youtube video once by an ang moh once years ago complaining about japan,some jap guy was lieing on the street apparently passed out,drunk,or injured or ill,all the jap people simply avoided looking at the guy and continued walking by and this went on for about 5 minutes,only when the ang moh finally decided to summon up the courage and initiative to approach the guy to check to see if hes alright,only when they saw the ang moh take the initiative only did a few japs started to stray towards them.later they thanked him for his care and concern and tell him to move on and they would take care of the problem themselves.

A mere isolated incident?much later i come across this blog written by a ang moh women describing the same phenomenon in Japan.

On the weekend I posted about being hit by a bus, and vented a little about not being helped by those who witnessed it. I purposely avoided talking about possible reasons for this behavior, because it's a complicated issue and would make an already over-long post even longer. It's also impossible to talk about without making huge generalizations and sounding anti-Japanese, which are things I really want to avoid on this blog.

But since the subject came up in the comments, I'd like to address it.

I've witnessed the phenomenon of strangers ignoring others in need of help so many times in Japan, but until this weekend had only been the victim of it in mild ways (like when I'm lost and in need of directions). The worst I've seen was a homeless man clubbing a kettle over a homeless woman's head, her face and chest covered in blood. Not something you see every day, and considering they were both screaming obscenities at each other, it's somewhat understandable that some people would be reluctant to help. But in this case, all people were reluctant to help- everybody just walked right on by without doing a thing. (This was in Shinjuku Station, one of the biggest and busiest train stations in the world, and there were lots of people passing by.) Hideaki called the police on his cellphone and we decided it was too dangerous to interfere so we just waited for the cops to show up. While we waited we had time to watch the crowd- most just pretended they didn't see the couple (despite the fact that they were in the middle of a corridor and screaming at the top of their lungs), and those who acknowledged the noisy scene merely commented to each other and kept on going. I even heard a few people laughing about it (nervous laughter, no doubt, but that doesn't make it OK).

This was a rather extreme situation, but I'm sure anyone who's lived here any length of time has witnessed or experienced similar behavior. And it can be really disturbing, and make even someone who loves this country like me to question what she is doing here.

So what's the explanation? Some of the commenters on the bus post felt that the Japanese can be reluctant to help because they don't want to cause embarrassment. This may be part of it. It's true that people here almost never do stuff that could embarrass you, like point out if your shirt tag is sticking out or you've got spinach in your teeth or your zipper is hanging open. (Once during a cherry blossom viewing party a bird pooped on my head, and the people I was with actually looked away and pretended not to notice.)

But I think many Japanese are just as concerned about saving themselves from embarrassment. There seems to be a fear of a Don Quixote effect of causing more problems and looking foolish when trying to help a stranger. Interfering with another's business is just not worth the potential hassle.

To be fair, failing to help others in need is not a uniquely Japanese phenomenon, and can be witnessed in much of the world. Instead, I'd say it was more of a city problem, with people in all of the world's big cities ignoring strangers to some extent. But the group-oriented nature of Japanese society does make it worse here, I think.

Japanese people can be extremely kind and helpful to those in their groups- families, class-mates, coworkers, neighbors and so on. In a small town where pretty much everyone belongs to the same group, I'm willing to bet people are far more helpful. But in the cities, especially huge ones like Tokyo, everybody comes from somewhere else, and without a sense of community it's just easier to classify strangers as not part of your group. And there is no obligation to help, or even acknowledge, those who are not in your group.



one of the commentors shared this story of her experience in Japan......

I get to be the first to comment, how cool. Nicely balanced post.
I also noticed another poster saying they thought the emabarrassment explaination was pat. Fair enough, my feelings are more complicated that that, as yours seem to be too. I actually have another story. I passed out on the train on the way to work. It was hot I was dehydrated and hadnt had breakfast. I may have gone more than one station on the floor but I cant be sure. Anyway because my japanese wasnt good at that stage I couldnt say "I need to sit down" and I was too embarrassed to slide to the floor, while I was contemplating this I passed out. Bag and keitai flung to the side, when I came too I thought that I was at home in bed but the bed was kind of hard. When I opened my eyes everyone had moved away from me. No one had touched me when I passed out because I would have noticed because I thought I was in bed........ When I opened my eyes a woman came over to me, asked if I was ok and cleared a seat for me. I was pretty shocked that no one had touched me for at least one train stop. It was kind of scary and I thought as revenge I would eat an onigiri on the train whenever I felt like it because although I would get stares I could stare back thinking "if I passed out you wouldnt help me".




Amazing this "cold hearted" phenomenon exist in Japan?supposedly a first world country with a GDP per capital of $40,000 for many decades compared to a developing country of GDP per cap $7000 and hundreds of millions of its population still peasants working in agriculture?Lets face it the nature of asians do not change,we are deathly afraid of "embarassment" and value face above all else.

There's a problem with this story though and showcases the double standards especially of some Chinese dogs here.

It occured in Japan since japs behave like that towards other japs how can japan be a first world country? Isn't that the benchmark that's being set here? Chinese don't care about others = China is a backwards 3rd world country hence since it occured in japan don't the standards apply equally? Going to bet that's not the case here.

Cases of people leaving strangers in the lurch and not coming to their aid occur everywhere. In the US there have been such cases before so this means the US and European nations aren't great nations either correct? For some odd reason such double standards are allowed and no matter what US and European nations are always allowed so much more leeway. :rolleyes:
 
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