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Singaporean First Alliance

Goh Meng Seng

Alfrescian (InfP) [Comp]
Generous Asset
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Over the years, we have heard about how the big influx of foreign workers or talents has created great impact on Singaporeans' life. We have also heard about how some Singaporeans cry out foul about those who protested or made comments about these foreign migrants as "Xenophobic" or simply "Extremists".<br />
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Some would even accuse anyone who raise the flag of Singaporean First as Xenophobic without really understanding what it means, neither will they reason it out in proper context.<br />
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We have seen how companies under the control of foreigners have started to build "racial enclave" within their own working environment. It is no surprise that we observe some banks or business entities being filled by employees with the same country origin. It has become so absurd that we start to see job advertisement put up in public space to have race or country origins or "Singapore PR", worse, to boast about their present working environment is dominated by their "own people" from the same country! And this actually happens right in our country!<br />
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When such things happened and reported on the social media, those usual suspects who cry foul about Singaporean First as "Xenophobic" have suddenly suffered strange disease of muteness. They have simply lost their voice and we have not heard from them calling these advertisement as "Xenophobic" or "Singaphobic"?&nbsp; It is totally illogical for Singaporeans to be discriminated right in their own country! No citizens in the world, will become second class citizens and get discriminated by FOREIGNERS in their own countries. I guess these "human rights activists" who cry "Xenophobic" too often, should get their perspective right in the first place and stop taking that self righteous stance. There is nothing more righteous than good reasoning, fairness and justice. <br />
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In order to understand the whole problem of globalization, we must first understand the basics of ultra-capitalism. In the traditional teaching of "Free Market Principles", ultra-capitalism dictates that it would be BEST for the capitalist to have totally free mobility of labour and free mobility of capital funds so that they could maximize their profits wherever opportunities arise. <br />
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It would be easy to understand this ultra-capitalism concept by looking at the simple economic equation of production:<br />
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GDP = Labour Input + Capital Input+ Land + Technology + other factors of production (eg. raw materials)<br />
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It is not difficult to see that if we want GDP to grow indefinitely, we could just keep increasing labour and capital. This is exactly what PAP government is trying to do. They are trying to grow GDP at all cost by increasing labour, thus population and capital via luring MNCs. <br />
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The problem is, Singapore is just a little red dot with limited land space. We couldn't possibly increase the labour, thus population size indefinitely without resulting in more crowded living space for all Singaporeans. We should also be very mindful that we should not just increase GDP for the sake of GDP growth itself. The ultimate aim should be providing Singaporeans better jobs, better wages, better living standards and quality of life but definitely not higher inflation. But are we getting these in spite of higher GDP growth? What we are experiencing is that 80% of Singaporeans suffered from the cost of such ultra-capitalist method of growth, in terms of higher inflation and depressed wages, while only top 10 to 20% of Singaporeans benefited from such development. This is obviously represented by the ever increasing income disparity in Singapore. <br />
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<span lang="EN-US">I have renamed my FB Name to Goh Meng Seng
SingaporeanFirst to indicate a new phase of my life in response to the various
ridiculous happenings going on in Singapore under PAP rule, which allows us to
be robbed of our dignity as a citizen, as well as subjecting ourselves to major
discrimination by a huge foreign population allowed in by PAP. It will be a new
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<span lang="EN-US">I have created a FB group Singaporean First Alliance and the following is my declaration of purpose:<br />
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<span style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; orphans: auto; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;">As a small country, it is inevitable for Singapore and
our citizens to feel the full impact of Globalization. It is inevitable for us
to bring in more foreign workers, be it talents or otherwise, to&nbsp;supplement
our workforce which will face contraction due to aging population caused by low
fertility rate.<br />
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However, we must always remember that for whatever policies the ruling party of
the day make, it must be solely for the benefits of our citizens. Thus,
Singaporeans' interests must be the FIRST PRIORITY of ALL policies made by the
government.<br />
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1) We are against the over-liberal FT policy which has compromised not only the
wages of Singaporeans but also job opportunities for Singaporeans.<br />
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2) Foreign Labour from Third World developing countries can afford lower pay
because of their lower cost and standards of living in their home countries but
Singaporeans have to bear FULL impart of the higher cost of living for them and
their families in Singapore. Cheap labour substitution by companies should be
prevented by legislative and administration means by the Government.<br />
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3) We are just a tiny little island and any big influx of foreigners will
definitely push up our land and property prices which will in turn inflate our
rents and eventually prices for all goods and services. We are against mindless
population targets set by the ruling party PAP which will eventually cause high
inflation and push up our cost of living in Singapore.<br />
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4) We are against of the aggressive population target set by PAP because this
will cause great strains on all public services starting from public transport,
public housing to public healthcare.<br />
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5) We are against of the 6.9m population target because most of the foreign
immigrants we are taking in are from Third World
countries which have the very third world mentality and attitudes which are
very different from ours. This will inevitably cause cultural frictions which
may be a potential source of social tensions or even unrest if it is not managed
properly.<br />
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6) There may be people who would accuse us of "Xenophobic" or even
"Extremist" but we are not. We are just Nationalistic amidst the
waves of Globalization and massive influx of foreign migrants, to defend the
dignity, jobs and rights of our citizens, brothers and sisters of all races.<br />
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7) On the contrary, we view PAP's liberal FT policy as extremism and
ultra-capitalist that only takes care of the interests of big MNCs, GLCs and
business interests but disregard the welfare, well being and interests of our
citizens. Such policy has only helped to suppress wages of citizens and
compromise citizens' job security and well being, aggravating income
distribution in spite of high GDP growth. Such strategy of Growth at ALL COST
coupled with a weak labour law and union have made most Singaporeans suffer the
high cost of growth while a minority of people, including foreign MNCs, GLCs
and business owners, to enjoy the fruits of growth.<br />
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8) In fact, we are far from being Xenophobic as we are concerned and against the
unethical modern slavery that has been practiced by some industry and
businesses on low or unskilled workers from the Third
World country. We are against of such modern slavery in Singapore which
not only bring shame to our country but compromise wages of our Singaporeans in
these fields as well.<br />
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9) We demand FAIR WAGE for ALL, including foreign workers with priority given
to Singaporeans First. We understand that if we do not enforce FAIR WAGE for
Foreign workers, our local Singaporean workers will be displaced by CHEAPER
foreign labour.<br />
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10) As our national race strategy is to prevent the formation of "Racial
Enclaves" in housing and such, we have observed that "Racial-National
Enclaves" of foreign labour have formed in various sectors and industries.
This has gone unchecked when the foreign migrants have started a quiet but
deliberate effort to employ their own race or national origins for job openings
when they have gained control of the hiring power within their organizations or
companies. This is in effect an unhealthy development of Economic and Job
colonialization by these foreign workers. This must be stopped. Any company in Singapore that do not employ at least 50% of
Singaporeans will have little reasons to stay in Singapore as their presence will
not benefit Singaporeans at all.<br />
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11) Last but not least, we may welcome these foreigners to work along us or
even become Singapore citizens eventually one day, but we must maintain that
these foreigner should realize that they are guests while we are the hosts.
They should respect and obey not only our laws but also our cultural practices
and way of life. Foreigner should integrate into our core, learn the ways of
our multiculturalism harmony and tolerance instead of trying to impose their
own values and way of life upon us.&nbsp;</span></span></div>
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The self righteous Human Rights activists as well as PAP people will definitely try to throw labels like Xenophobic on such movement but I have only one simple defence, do they kick out their own family members so to let their friends stay in their house? <br />
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Singapore is the only land Singaporeans have to call home. It is only right for us to demand our government to take care of our own citizens and defend our rights and dignity against being treated and discriminated as second or third class residents on this land. These self righteous Human Rights activists should stop their own delusion but open their eyes to the real happenings around them, start to acknowledge truthfully the absurdity happening in Singapore that compromise our citizens' rights and interests. <br />
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If all fail, call me Xenophobic if you want; it is only right for me to fight for FAIR treatment and against mindless ultra-capitalist liberal FT policy.&nbsp; If you can't see the abuse and trespasses of our citizens' rights and interests, so be it. I am just simply Nationalistic. <br />
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Goh Meng Seng
 

Goh Meng Seng

Alfrescian (InfP) [Comp]
Generous Asset
Wherever I am, I am still a True Blue Singaporean. I just wonder why you should ask it this way... you should ask instead, why some Singapore politicians in Singapore, didn't bother about this instead...

Goh Meng Seng


GMS why do u even bother when u choose to be foreigner in HK???
 

tanwahp

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
Slickjon asked a valid question. If you were to start or lead any movement, even a Facebook movement, people are going to ask how you would feel if Hongkong went by a Hongkongers first policy.

You added to Hongkong's overcrowdedness and its population density is about same as Singapore. You jacked up their prices by being able to afford things that their own citizens can't afford. Under HK first policy, you might not even get to step into HK any more than a tourist.

I just wonder why you should ask it this way... you should ask instead, why some Singapore politicians in Singapore, didn't bother about this instead...

Probably the same reason why you tend to question WP instead of PAP.
 
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jw5

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Loyal
2016 getting nearer liao. :wink:

Btw tanwahp, hongkongers are very "hongkongers first". They look after their own, and they make sure the establishment does the same. (even when vs prcs, although of course that's not always highlighted all the time.)
 

tanwahp

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
Btw tanwahp, hongkongers are very "hongkongers first". They look after their own, and they make sure the establishment does the same. (even when vs prcs, although of course that's not always highlighted all the time.)

Thanks. Can you share what some of the differences are. I have not done much study on this.
 

Goh Meng Seng

Alfrescian (InfP) [Comp]
Generous Asset
Haha... seems that there are people who get too sensitive and guilty conscience that easily! This is a NEW INTERNET ERA! Things can be done easily regardless of where you are!

As far as Hong Kong is concerned, don't worry too much about it. It has more beautiful landscape and natural reserves than Singapore. Crowded it may be in city area, but they hardly have problems with their public transport system. :smile:

Goh Meng Seng
 

jw5

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Thanks. Can you share what some of the differences are. I have not done much study on this.

Anytime they think that their rights as locals are being overlooked, they will protest, complain to the media, get together to ban certain outlets which are pro non-locals, basically make a united fuss to ensure that their rights are protected.
Many of their lawmakers also do the same, especially those who have the same background as the ordinary folk. Their system is not that elitist that it only favours those with connections or porlumpars, and that's even after china takeover.

Most importantly, you can hear the way they think about locals rights in daily conversations.
Although they respect foreigners for the work they do there, they are very clear that you are a foreigner and they are locals and their rights as people of the land come first.
 

SockPuppet

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Loyal
Mr Goh MS

I might be wrong about you. But is it not better for you to return to NSP when NSP is facing a time of crisis? NSP needs a sec gen replacement. What better than a sec gen who has had prior experience to help take NSP to the next election! why you start another something new?

SP
 

tanwahp

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
Crowded it may be in city area, but they hardly have problems with their public transport system. :smile:

Definitely not agree. Hongkong has to deal with even heavier road congestion and more pollution than Singapore roads. Many highways are built, but this extended the problems.
 

tanwahp

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
Anytime they think that their rights as locals are being overlooked, they will protest, complain to the media, get together to ban certain outlets which are pro non-locals, basically make a united fuss to ensure that their rights are protected.
Many of their lawmakers also do the same, especially those who have the same background as the ordinary folk. Their system is not that elitist that it only favours those with connections or porlumpars, and that's even after china takeover.

Most importantly, you can hear the way they think about locals rights in daily conversations.
Although they respect foreigners for the work they do there, they are very clear that you are a foreigner and they are locals and their rights as people of the land come first.

I think you seem to refer to the political culture and the vocality of citizens in speaking up. Policy wise, are there any differences with Singapore in the way differentiation is made between foreigners and locals?

From what I know, there is even less differentiation in HK than in Singapore. The only difference between the 2 countries is that it is not as easy to obtain residence in HK than in Singapore which open door policy is too open.

This is starting to change as HK is facing a shortfall in population and will ultimately have more China citizens entering.
 
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OverTheCounter

Alfrescian (InfP)
Generous Asset
Anytime they think that their rights as locals are being overlooked, they will protest, complain to the media, get together to ban certain outlets which are pro non-locals, basically make a united fuss to ensure that their rights are protected.
Many of their lawmakers also do the same, especially those who have the same background as the ordinary folk. Their system is not that elitist that it only favours those with connections or porlumpars, and that's even after china takeover.

Most importantly, you can hear the way they think about locals rights in daily conversations.
Although they respect foreigners for the work they do there, they are very clear that you are a foreigner and they are locals and their rights as people of the land come first.



That's why I have more respect for Hong Kong'ers. They are willing to stand up for what they believe in and point out the unsavoury habits and flawed values that mainland PRCs bring into Hong Kong. They don't hide behind political correctness and certainly are not like those self-righteous twits on facebook that will accuse everyone of being xenophobic but once foreigners start to discriminate and trample on singaporeans, they will somehow conveniently shut up and be nowhere to be found.

I suppork Goh Meng seng to set up this Singapore first facebook page to counter all these silly political correctness and self righteous ideals.
 
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