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SDP will withdraw.

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Is it possible that the opposition is just pulling PAP's leg and during nomination, only 1 opposition party will submit candidate vs PAP?
 

GOD IS MY DOG

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Anyone cares to bet?

After the release of the letter to LTK by CSJ containing the threat, the dye has been cast. The attempt to blackmail LTK would not go down well with voters. SDP has now painted itself in a corner.

Even if all the SDP members and supporters including the CEC are keen to field an SP candidate, knowing enough of VW, TSL, Ang or PT. I am certain that all 4 of them are sensible enough not to damage SDP or the opposition cause any further. Thats leave a bare cupboard where quality professionals are concerned. That leaves the political charlatan who has issues with submission of forms not once but twice and also the part time prostitute both of whom are not worth much in terms of votes.

Common sense will prevail. SDP should aim for 2016 and work the ground.



Dr Chee is PAP mole.............sure contest one.............PAP will reimburse their deposit........
 

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I will forward the hypothesis that BE is being held post haste because there are some concerns about the Old Man and they don't want to hold such a hot BE in a post Old Man era. Otherwise there is no reason to do this while AIM is still burning.

What would be a better timing? Wait for the burning to die out? That will take a very long time, maybe more than a year. Some voters might get impatient. So holding it very early, delivering a tactical surprise on the Opposition
is a smart, calculated move. The issue of AIM may not have the time to fully develop. The investigation will take at least one to two months and that is after the election.

The effects of this move have already been felt. The PAP has already given quite a bit of exposure of its candidate while the Opposition parties are still deciding whether to contest. If I may say, only WP seems to be ready. As the incumbent opposition, they have decided very early on to contest. SDP seems ready to throw in the towel, otherwise why demand a negotiation at this late stage. Don't think they are ready in terms of funding and logistics.
 

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This is the first time I see political parties broadcasting such letter which is usually done behind the scene. Even if WP wants to negotiate, broadcasting the letters kill off all hope.

what do you do when someone threaten you to fight?

Just walk away and make that somebody look like a fool.
 

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It looks like nearly everyone are taking the bet - that SDP will contest.

I still think that better ones within SDP will guide the less than sensible ones. This is not about principles or the right to contest, it is also about the impact from voters and the general populace if the contest occurs. We have to bear in mind that SDP poll badly over many GEs until the last one. Despite all the noise, even smaller parties and lesser known opposition identities outdid SDP.

If they contest, there is no doubt that they will trail behind WP. How badly they perform will depend on candidates that are offered by both parties.
 

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Very good point, lockeliberal
I've been trying to think about what WP's best response to the SDP invitation to chat is, and you've hit it.
"We cannot with good conscience attend this meeting as it would be disrespectful to the RP and SDA"

If WP were to issue sucvh a statement, there is no harm done to its image but more of a bonus. But to SDP, its a sign that SDP had"looked down" on both RP and SDA, hence showing no respect and not sincere at all with opposition unity.

Imagine what sort of PR nightmare that would be.
 

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All SDP has to do in reply that they apologise for the oversight and would gladly participate with RP and SDA.

But the fact is that Not inviting Harbans Singh would not be an issue.


If WP were to issue sucvh a statement, there is no harm done to its image but more of a bonus. But to SDP, its a sign that SDP had"looked down" on both RP and SDA, hence showing no respect and not sincere at all with opposition unity.

Imagine what sort of PR nightmare that would be.
 

cleareyes

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All SDP has to do in reply that they apologise for the oversight and would gladly participate with RP and SDA.

But the fact is that Not inviting Harbans Singh would not be an issue.

True. It wont be a big deal.

But, if SDP try another call for opposition unity, it would nolonger be answered

ok...maybe GMS might just answer them.

LOL
 

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WP Members / Supporters & Astroturfers....please calm down...

WP is not going to win this BE even if it is a one-to-one fight.

WP has lost the conditional support of the minority Malay and Indian communities whose votes were crucial in allowing it to secure Aljunied GRC.

If the internal polling which had been carried out had reflected that the WP would win in a one-to-one fight, the Dauphin would not be calling for a BE. PE will remain with the PAP.

No amount of "shiok sendiri" posturing, delusional hallucination or frothing at the mouths will change the fact that the PAP still has substantial support amongst Singaporeans or that the WP has lost support amongst the Malay and Indian minority communities and hence, PE will remain with the PAP.

So please stop the cursing and swearing. Frothing at the mouth and delusional hallucination is bad for your health.
 

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LTK has been a public figure for 21 years as MP. Whatever hidden thoughts he has would have been exposed by now. Yet you are only able to tell people to believe you blindly. On what basis? Try harder next time.

A quote from the late Ramseth.

http://www.sammyboy.com/showthread.php?112041-Are-we-obsessed-with-Goh-Meng-Seng/page3

PTader has cooled down since me and LTK talked to him in no uncertain terms.

Being a WP member/supporter/astroturfer, you must be highly intelligent. Try connecting the dots from what the late Ramseth said.
 

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All SDP has to do in reply that they apologise for the oversight and would gladly participate with RP and SDA.
But the fact is that Not inviting Harbans Singh would not be an issue.

If the WP release the statement on the day of nomination or even the night before just before press time, then it can be rather damaging.
Of course, they would have to endure a few days worth of "no comments" first.
 

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WP Members / Supporters & Astroturfers....please calm down...

WP is not going to win this BE even if it is a one-to-one fight.

WP has lost the conditional support of the minority Malay and Indian communities whose votes were crucial in allowing it to secure Aljunied GRC.

If the internal polling which had been carried out had reflected that the WP would win in a one-to-one fight, the Dauphin would not be calling for a BE. PE will remain with the PAP.

No amount of "shiok sendiri" posturing, delusional hallucination or frothing at the mouths will change the fact that the PAP still has substantial support amongst Singaporeans or that the WP has lost support amongst the Malay and Indian minority communities and hence, PE will remain with the PAP.

So please stop the cursing and swearing. Frothing at the mouth and delusional hallucination is bad for your health.

So good you had to fucking post it twice. Again. Maybe if LTK talked to you again he might get you to stop fucking posting like a fucking incontinent dog with the runny shits. Fucking call him, please.
 

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This is very interesting. Does it mean that Tang Liang Hong is really a Chinese chauvanist? That the PAP's depiction of him as racial politics - that is an accurate picture?

Why should Low Thia Khiang be used to destroy JBJ when it should have been the other way around: JBJ was never as big a threat to the PAP's power as LTK is.

There are people who think that WP are secret allies of the PAP, and other people who think that SDP are secret allies of the PAP. Which of them is right?

If you know TLH, he can hardly be described as a chauvinist. He was fair in what he wanted, i.e that all cultures (including Malay and Indian culture and practices) should be treated fairly.

LTK is no Tang Liang Hong. Far from it. Chinese Chauvinist is a fitting description for him.
 

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Why does SDP declare that it wants to stand for election and send a letter of invite for a negotiation meeting?

It could be for one of the following reasons:

1) It originally wanted to contest but after walking the ground found that the ground was not too sweet and decided to negotiate for share of territory in future contests before throwing in the towel
2) It originally wanted to contest but the sudden announcement of the BE caught them by surprise and they are not ready to contest. So same as in 1) try to negotiate something before throwing in the towel
3) Originally, had no intention to contest but make use of this for posturing to negotiate a deal with WP for future contests, therefore RP, SPP, SDA, NS not invited because they are actually not concerned with the MCF issue
4) Originally wanted to contest and will actually join in the contest but use the letter of invitation to deflect possible blame that they are the spoiler.

Why does WP turn down the invitation for negotiation? They saw through all the four possible reasons above. Why negotiate when there was no need to (scenarios 1 to 3) or when there was no sincere desire to avoid 3CF (scenario 4)?
 
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So good you had to fucking post it twice. Again. Maybe if LTK talked to you again he might get you to stop fucking posting like a fucking incontinent dog with the runny shits. Fucking call him, please.

You are not doing any favours to your WP by cursing and swearing and being profane. Try to calm down and be less emotional.
 

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Dear PT

The dauphin with his secret squirrel in the SDP and everywhere else knows that NO one will back down, and that in a three four five cornered fight the PAP wins.

Perhaps your hypothesis is true, that the minority vote was lost to the WP , than again perhaps it's not but the easiest way to prove it one way or the other is a straight one on one fight whereby the district polling will tell the story,

Perhaps the SDP is the best bet, with its smart policies, eloquent speakers and combative stance , but then again with its zero ground work, in PE , if its theory was correct, it would have MPs in parliament would it not ?

Honestly no one in the WP, those senior, those with experience honed through GEs. ever expects a guaranteed victory, they expect to fight hard and lose well and to fight harder again, but to win , and or have a guaranteeded win that's for the PAP,

if its a three cornered fight so be it, The PAP wins, The WP loses but is encouraged to come back again if PE is still in existence in 2016 which I do not, The SDP behind by the WP by at least eight percent or more , I hope learns the lesson of concentrated work , door to door house visits and starts thinking seriously whether it wants to pander only the twenty percent or does what is politically necessary for the 50.1.


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QUOTE=PTADER;1366593]WP Members / Supporters & Astroturfers....please calm down...

WP is not going to win this BE even if it is a one-to-one fight.

WP has lost the conditional support of the minority Malay and Indian communities whose votes were crucial in allowing it to secure Aljunied GRC.

If the internal polling which had been carried out had reflected that the WP would win in a one-to-one fight, the Dauphin would not be calling for a BE. PE will remain with the PAP.

No amount of "shiok sendiri" posturing, delusional hallucination or frothing at the mouths will change the fact that the PAP still has substantial support amongst Singaporeans or that the WP has lost support amongst the Malay and Indian minority communities and hence, PE will remain with the PAP.

So please stop the cursing and swearing. Frothing at the mouth and delusional hallucination is bad for your health.[/QUOTE]
 
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