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Post Result Assessment - GE 2011

Porfirio Rubirosa

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see where u r coming fm bro...however i think u missed out GCT's own goals i.e. conflicting signals abt 2 term ministers; silly stupid joke abt TPL being 'traumatised' in facebook; repudiated on his own public promise not to comment on any matters apart fm MP GRC; indirectly attacking TJS for a 2nd time when he realised his initial attack had backfired; indirectly attacked RL, MBT n WKS...all this coming fm an ex PM of 14 yrs no less...shocking is all i can say...
Dear Por

I believe that egg on GCT face was an accident of fate. Firstly GCT did take TT on LHL urging but I believe in a quid pro pro deal as GCT wanted a BG for his power base. From the comments on the net he chose the better one. However big the risk it was to take on TPL it seemed a managable risk because the NSP was a cobbled together last min team and in all probability his reputation would have intimitaed anyone else.

The fact THAT NSP contested him a surprise, the fact that Nicole Seah did not BOMB but shot like a rocket was another and thats how GCT crashed and burned to 56 against unknowns. To many variables :_))


Locke
 

Porfirio Rubirosa

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missed out one other v interesting turn of events in GE11...the apparent coming of age of the malay/muslim electorate who now seem to be divided at least to some extent between PAP n Oppo - well at least WP going by aljunied n to a certain extent east coast, moulmein-kallang...
 

steffychun

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  • Worst ever results by PAP
  • Loss of a Key Cabinet Minister - GY
  • Lim Swee Say abandons ship to save his career by switching from Aljunied to East Coast GRC.
  • Lim Swee Sway is now in the new marginal seat of East Coast and the new target for another opposition dream team. Will he swtich again. PAP slimmest margin now of 9%.
  • Lim Hwee Hua might face defamation suit and the loss of her seat might help mitigate in her favour.
  • Reform Party performs badly but KJ press interview shows man is very detached form reality
  • Joo Chiat and Charles Chong in strife
  • SDP's seats for hire candidates clearly outdo SDP own internal candidates. New party expected to be formed.
  • Workers Party do extremely well with every one of their contesting candidates scoring 40% and above.
  • NSP despite its good performance need to make a decision. A ship cannot have 2 masters nor a mountain with 2 tigers. Sebastian drags down Tony Tan and Hazel Poa
  • Potong Pasir expected to see Premium level upgrading with freebies thrown in
  • Kate Spade enters parliament - clear failure of the GRC systems where donkey and asses can ride on the coat tails with voters having little choice
  • Massive 18% swing in margin i Marine Parade. A disgrace for GCT
  • Opposition candidates of the old mould continue to do badly and need to retire.
  • m&d does stick as the VB smear appears to prove. Despite VW being the best opposition candidate with a stellar cast, did not cross the 40% and the winning margin is 20%. The SDP banner might have also played a part. It certainly took its toll on Alec Tok and Teo Soh Lung who did rather badly despite their credentials. Compare JJ Yee, a newbie and an unknown whose performance under WP banner is telling. Some allowance is to be given for Charles Chong's negative perception
  • Looks like Bookies and their followers better stick to horse and soccer
  • Most comical moment - Desmond blames his bad performance to 3 cornered fight in TV interview and as expected he lost his deposit.
  • Yaw does better than Low in Hougang. Maybe voters wanted to build a buffer
  • Credit to Chiam for having a go and delivering a decent set of results despite 2 heavy weights in PAP slate
  • PM's margin increases against trend and only PAP's constituency to see a margin increase and ironically courtesy of JBJ' son. Looks like the voters are not into bicycle thieves yet.
  • Lina Chiam, JJ Yee and Gerald Giam make it to Parliament as NCMPs
  • Suddenly PAP heavyweights promise to listen to "voices" and mathematically challenged Irene Ng says that they have received a strong mandate from Tampines voters despite margin swing of 11% against her team
  • Jeanette Chong Aruldoss does better than expected while Tony Tan, Hazel Poa and Alex Tok did rather badly.
  • People to watch out for at next GE - Vincent Wijeyasinghe, Nicole Seah, Tony Tan and JJ Yee
  • Singapore East most vulnerable compared to West.
  • GRC may be scrapped as it is no longer effective. Its strengh was making it difficult for opposition candidates to form GRC slates. This has clearly been surmounted in this GE. The stakes are too high as loss of GY is indicative.

No defamation suit for Lim--WP's Low is Honourable

GRCs won't be scrapped. Will increase in size to have mega emotional dilemma.
 

gesg2011

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WP is the only solid party that really works like clockwork and no different from a disciplined army unit. SPP is too over-reliant on Chiam and this has shown when voters voted to kick Lina out of PP. People only vote for Chiam and not for SPP, which is dangerous. It might be better if SPP and NSP merge after the retirement of Chiam to form one strong party.

We all know CST is a good person unlike LTK. People vote for the sake of voting for the opposition. When a person gets emotional, they can't think correctly. A very good example is the one on the 3 corner fight. Who the hell knows LLL from WP? She spoke about workfare bonus - meant only for people with an income - be given to stay-at-home parents. Is this good enough to gain more than 12,000+ votes. She was only there since Feb 2011.


You have to give credit to Sitoh YP for his perseverance. The voters there vote with their EYES OPEN & with their HEART. Sitoh YP is the one who can serve them due to CST's health and not because of his incapability.

What has or have WP done so far? PAP has done so much for Singapore since Independence - YES, everything in Singapore, which Singaporeans feel proud about. Yes, it's achieved by ALL Singaporeans, but who are the ones who lead and have the vision?


Out of nowhere, WP are seen as the good ones, PAP as the bad ones.


Singaporeans complained about "High Cost of Living" but they FAILED to ask themselves how many branded bags, laptops, smart phones, shirts they have compared to our neighboring countries. When comes NATAS fair, PC Show, IT Show - all Singaporeans must die-die must travel. Did they save for rainy days or just conveniently blame the government when things starts to fall.

Younger generation spending money on pubs, KTVs. Look at the restaurants, you basically got to queue to have a seat. High cost of living? Inflation?

COEs went up! Blame PAP? Who bid for the cars?

People who are really poor will definitely gets help. You want to listen to one-sided stories? Anyone die of hunger?


Housing Grant - Do our neighboring countries get housing grant from their government? Did Singaporeans make any money selling and renting out their HDB flats? Fresh grad from universities or poly and straight away want cars & housing affordable to them. Be realistic. Ask the older generations.

HDB Resale price went up, Singaporeans did not make any profit? Who bought your flats?

Why Singaporeans sell their HDB flats? Most of them want to upgrade to condos or landed? No Singaporean speculators? Mini-bonds, blame PAP? When they made money, where are they?


Lost their jobs - Did they take a look at themselves? Do you mean by voting WP, they can guarantee that your employer, supervisor won't sack you and ask you to leave if you cannot perform? Don't blame foreigners. When Singaporeans work in overseas, do you want to get the same treatment? Without the foreigners, can it move the economy?

Casino-IRs - So many people curse & criticize. Are you saying those who voted for the opposition did not enjoy themselves at MBS & RWS? Do they feel proud when they entertain their guests?


Do you think all FTs who have converted to Singaporeans vote for PAP? So, are they the opposition friends or PAP enemies? When asked why they took up citizenship and voted for the opposition since they have so much grievances? No one can give me a clear answer.


Why so many MNC / manufacturing companies stay in Singapore despite the high cost? Not the government's effort? How many mouths it feeds? You mean what we (Singaporeans and Foreigners) can do other countries cannot?


During SARS, economy crisis, did the gov help the SMEs? Ask around?

Singaporeans are lucky that SING Dollar is strong. What happens if the Sing Dollar is weak? Everything goes up! Blame PAP again?

REMEMBER that most of your loved ones, children, parents, relatives work for various sectors and departments of the government. When things fail or you are not satisfied with the service or security lapse, entirely the gov's fault?


CSM (WP) who was a Taiwanese. Why opposition supporters commented & criticized about KBW being a quitter and so on? CSM was missing from Singapore for 30 years, his wife, a Taiwanese, now a US citizen. When asked whether his son, a US citizen, will serve NS, CSM said he HOPED he would, but would let him decide when he turns 18. If CSM is a PAP candidate, all HELL breaks Loose.

Why the opposition voters have different treatment especially for the LEE family besides PAP? From time to time we hear nasty things being said about them. When the reports mentioned about GY's son having to undergo treatment in the US, all sorts of nasty comments came out.

The ruling party is not perfect and I'm sure they will work even harder. Voting for opposition just for them to make noise in the parliament will not solve anything but cause more disruptions. More unproductive time will be spent arguing and debating on non critical issues, and less time to address important issues.
 

Porfirio Rubirosa

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i really hope yr pap masters continue thinking n acting along these lines...GE2016 shall then be even more exciting!
The ruling party is not perfect and I'm sure they will work even harder. Voting for opposition just for them to make noise in the parliament will not solve anything but cause more disruptions. More unproductive time will be spent arguing and debating on non critical issues, and less time to address important issues.
 

Porfirio Rubirosa

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another reflection...i am glad to c generally that the S'porean Electorate appears to hv passed muster as a First World Electorate...did not buy into freak election bogey...generally appeared to vote based on a rational mature informed manner...the evolution of democracy appears to be alive n well in s'pore...
 
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