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PAP Styled Big Brother is watching you in Australia

shockshiok

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for those subprime singaporeans missing thier socialist PAP government, no need to worry in australia.

they are watching you - just like home

hee hee

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i3agqiMrtVoJZzcaRDg2795uSLAAD95AGJQO0

Uproar in Australia over plan to block Web sites

SYDNEY, Australia (AP) — A proposed Internet filter dubbed the "Great Aussie Firewall" is promising to make Australia one of the strictest Internet regulators among democratic countries.

Consumers, civil-rights activists, engineers, Internet providers and politicians from opposition parties are among the critics of a mandatory Internet filter that would block at least 1,300 Web sites prohibited by the government — mostly child pornography, excessive violence, instructions in crime or drug use and advocacy of terrorism.

Hundreds protested in state capitals earlier this month.

"This is obviously censorship," said Justin Pearson Smith, 29, organizer of protests in Melbourne and an officer of one of a dozen Facebook groups against the filter.

The list of prohibited sites, which the government isn't making public, is arbitrary and not subject to legal scrutiny, Smith said, leaving it to the government or lawmakers to pursue their own online agendas.

"I think the money would be better spent in investing in law enforcement and targeting producers of child porn," he said.

Internet providers say a filter could slow browsing speeds, and many question whether it would achieve its intended goals. Illegal material such as child pornography is often traded on peer-to-peer networks or chats, which would not be covered by the filter.

"People don't openly post child porn, the same way you can't walk into a store in Sydney and buy a machine gun," said Geordie Guy, spokesman for Electronic Frontiers Australia, an Internet advocacy organization. "A filter of this nature only blocks material on public Web sites. But illicit material ... is traded on the black market, through secret channels."

Communications Minister Stephen Conroy proposed the filter earlier this year, following up on a promise of the year-old Labor Party government to make the Internet cleaner and safer.

"This is not an argument about free speech," he said in an e-mail to The Associated Press. "We have laws about the sort of material that is acceptable across all mediums and the Internet is no different. Currently, some material is banned and we are simply seeking to use technology to ensure those bans are working."

Jim Wallace, managing director of the Australian Christian Lobby, welcomed the proposed filter as "an important safeguard for families worried about their children inadvertently coming across this material on the Net."

Conroy's office said a peer-to-peer filter could be considered. Most of today's filters are unable to do that, though companies are developing the technology.

The plan, which would have to be approved by Parliament, has two tiers. A mandatory filter would block sites on an existing blacklist determined by the Australian Communications Media Authority. An optional filter would block adult content.

The latter could use keywords to determine which sites to block, a technology that critics say is problematic.

"Filtering technology is not capable of realizing that when we say breasts we're talking about breast cancer, or when we type in sex we may be looking for sexual education," Guy said. "The filter will accidentally block things it's not meant to block."

A laboratory test of six filters for the Australian Communications Media Authority found they missed 3 percent to 12 percent of material they should have barred and wrongly blocked access to 1 percent to 8 percent of Web sites. The most accurate filters slowed browsing speeds up to 86 percent.

The government has invited Internet providers to participate in a live test expected to be completed by the end of June.

The country's largest Internet provider, Telstra BigPond, has declined, but others will take part. Provider iiNet signed on to prove the filter won't work. Managing director Michael Malone said he would collect data to show the government "how stupid it is."

The government has allocated 45 million Australian dollars ($30.7 million) for the filter, the largest part of a four-year, AU$128.5 million ($89 million) cybersafety plan, which also includes funding for investigating online child abuse, education and research.

One of the world's largest child-advocacy groups questions such an allocation of money.

"The filter may not be able to in fact protect children from the core elements of the Internet that they are actually experiencing danger in," said Holly Doel-Mackaway, an adviser with Save the Children. "The filter should be one small part of an overall comprehensive program to educate children and families about using the Internet."

Australia's proposal is less severe than controls in Egypt and Iran, where bloggers have been imprisoned; in North Korea, where there is virtually no Internet access; or in China, which has a pervasive filtering system.

Internet providers in the West have blocked content at times. In early December, several British providers blocked a Wikipedia entry about heavy metal band Scorpion. The entry included its 1976 "Virgin Killer" album cover, which has an image of a naked underage girl. The Internet Watch Foundation warned providers the image might be illegal.

Canada, Sweden, the United Kingdom have filters, but they are voluntary.

In the United States, Pennsylvania briefly imposed requirements for service providers to block child-pornography sites, but a federal court struck down the law because the filters also blocked legitimate sites.

In Australia, a political party named the Australian Sex Party was launched last month in large part to fight the filter, which it believes could block legal pornography, sex education, abortion information and off-color language.

But ethics professor Clive Hamilton, in a column on the popular Australian Web site Crikey.com, scoffed at what he called "Net libertarians," who believe freedom of speech is more important than limiting what children can access online.

"The Internet has dramatically changed what children can see," said the professor at Charles Sturt University in Canberra, noting that "a few extra clicks of a mouse" could open sites with photos or videos of extreme or violent sex. "Opponents of ISP filters simply refuse to acknowledge or trivialize the extent of the social problem."
 

neddy

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for those subprime singaporeans missing thier socialist PAP government, no need to worry in australia.

they are watching you - just like home

hee hee

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i3agqiMrtVoJZzcaRDg2795uSLAAD95AGJQO0

Uproar in Australia over plan to block Web sites

SYDNEY, Australia (AP) — A proposed Internet filter dubbed the "Great Aussie Firewall" is promising to make Australia one of the strictest Internet regulators among democratic countries.

Consumers, civil-rights activists, engineers, Internet providers and politicians from opposition parties are among the critics of a mandatory Internet filter that would block at least 1,300 Web sites prohibited by the government — mostly child pornography, excessive violence, instructions in crime or drug use and advocacy of terrorism.

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Relax, it is only a proposal. If the same thing happen in Singapore, it will turn into law overnight, public protests or not. Over here, we have a process to follow. If the people support the policy, why not? :biggrin:
 

shockshiok

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Relax, it is only a proposal. If the same thing happen in Singapore, it will turn into law overnight, public protests or not. Over here, we have a process to follow. If the people support the policy, why not? :biggrin:

it just reflects how much of a police state australia really is. must make all you poor subprime ex-singaporeans feel very comfortable with all that socialism and strict government control. woops i meant freedom.

hee hee.
 

neddy

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it just reflects how much of a police state australia really is. must make all you poor subprime ex-singaporeans feel very comfortable with all that socialism and strict government control. woops i meant freedom.

hee hee.

HAHAHAHAHA

Australia has too much freedom, censoring the internet will do some good, rather than bad. But on the opposite end, Singaporeans only has the internet to vent their frustrations.

Let me tell you, even if Australia censor the internet, it is not going to make any difference to the average users. Even Leong Sam will have no problem getting his services to his customers.

BTW - Thinking of the worst-case-scenerio on everything is practicing the Sinkee-trapped-in PAP-land mentality. In Aussies, we have no such worries.:cool:

In fact, Kevin Rudd will have more worries if his supporters cannot vent their anger on the internet, we will throw UGG boots at him. Unlike Singapore, wearing T-shirts also get jailed. HAHAHAHA
 

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Have some pity on this cockroach mate. :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:
 

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shockshiok

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HAHAHAHAHA

Australia has too much freedom, censoring the internet will do some good, rather than bad. But on the opposite end, Singaporeans only has the internet to vent their frustrations.

Let me tell you, even if Australia censor the internet, it is not going to make any difference to the average users. Even Leong Sam will have no problem getting his services to his customers.

BTW - Thinking of the worst-case-scenerio on everything is practicing the Sinkee-trapped-in PAP-land mentality. In Aussies, we have no such worries.:cool:

In fact, Kevin Rudd will have more worries if his supporters cannot vent their anger on the internet, we will throw UGG boots at him. Unlike Singapore, wearing T-shirts also get jailed. HAHAHAHA

big brother control. no freedom of speech. no freedom period. a mockery of civil liberties. what's next? communism? all those red light cameras and tickets for not wearing your helmet while riding a bicycle do add up, you know.

just another reason why australia is the worst country in the world.

hee hee
 

neddy

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big brother control. no freedom of speech. no freedom period. a mockery of civil liberties. what's next? communism? all those red light cameras and tickets for not wearing your helmet while riding a bicycle do add up, you know.

just another reason why australia is the worst country in the world.

hee hee

Sound more like a little red-dot island called Singapore to me. :rolleyes:
The last time I visited, there are a lot of Sinkees talking to themselves, no they are not on mobilephones, they are just talking to invisible friends. Pity the PAPland inhabitants.

One of them might be scolding Australia :biggrin:
 

shockshiok

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Sound more like a little red-dot island called Singapore to me. :rolleyes:
The last time I visited, there are a lot of Sinkees talking to themselves, no they are not on mobilephones, they are just talking to invisible friends. Pity the PAPland inhabitants.

One of them might be scolding Australia :biggrin:

its funny how similar australia is to singapore, isnt it? when other western nations are progressive, and positively reek of fairness and freedom, we have australia to remind singaporeans about socialism and his pal, big brother. orwell would be intrigued.

hee hee
 

neddy

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"its funny how similar australia is to singapore"

HAHAHAHA

"when other western nations are progressive, and positively reek of fairness and freedom"

HAHAHAHA

Evidence of a hillbilly redankulous braindump. Cannot imagine such trash coming out of an intelligent person.

I only associate myself with people who make sense.
:cool:
 

redbull313

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"its funny how similar australia is to singapore"

HAHAHAHA

"when other western nations are progressive, and positively reek of fairness and freedom"

HAHAHAHA

Evidence of a hillbilly redankulous braindump. Cannot imagine such trash coming out of an intelligent person.

I only associate myself with people who make sense.
:cool:

Josie Boy! Remember that Australia is Singapore Part II?

Jealous, huh/

No need, Joshie Boy.

No need.
 

OzSucks

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http://www.zeropaid.com/news/9913/Aussie+Internet+Filtering+Plan+to+Include+P2P+Traffic

Aussie Internet Filtering Plan to Include P2P Traffic

We've covered the situation in Australia quite extensively here at Zeropaid. It all started as a voluntary effort to "protect children," but quickly spiraled into an all out attempt by the Australian govt to make it mandatory for ISPs to filter the Internet of all "inappropriate content" and "offensive and illegal material." It quickly deteriorated from an attempt to somehow safeguard children from things like child pornography to things like legal pornography and gambling and has made Australian citizens rightly upset.

Broadband Minister Stephen Conroy, the main proponent of the plan, has now launched a blog on the Australian Govt's Dept of Broadband, Communications and the Digital Economy website in order to promote the heavily criticized plan that threatens to reduce Internet connection speeds by 87% and institute a system of censorship with no oversight.

In a recent posting, Conroy is now touting a $125.8 million Cyber-Safety Plan intended to be a "comprehensive set of measures to combat online threats and help parents and educators protect children from inappropriate material." In order to protect these innocent and helpless children the govt intends to fund ISP-level filtering, a plan which involves more technical interference in the Internet infrastructure than what is attempted even in Iran.
 

allanlee

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for those subprime singaporeans missing thier socialist PAP government, no need to worry in australia.

they are watching you - just like home

Tats wat u get when you engage retired singkee civil servants who migrated there as "consultants"....... only matter of time Ozzieland will becum like another Singkieland :p
 

shockshiok

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Tats wat u get when you engage retired singkee civil servants who migrated there as "consultants"....... only matter of time Ozzieland will becum like another Singkieland :p

its already confirmed the australian govt benchmarks the singapore govt socialist model. maybe thats why only the subprime spoon fed singaporeans with little means choose to suffer there paying high taxes and suffering there.
 

neddy

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Tats wat u get when you engage retired singkee civil servants who migrated there as "consultants"....... only matter of time Ozzieland will becum like another Singkieland :p

I can tell you, Singaporeans civil servants are not really qualified to work in the Australian civil service. There is not much transferable skills because in Australia, you need to take care of a lot more guidelines that a country that respect human beings have.

Singapore civil servants only know how to take care of small issues and give textbook replies.
eg like giving lengthy explanation why he or she missed an important meeting involving the directors. Over here, if you are not at meeting, just tell them you cannot make it.
Short and sweet.

On the contrary, Singapore will emulate Australian policies and make it heaps tougher.
 

busy123

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http://www.zeropaid.com/news/9913/Aussie+Internet+Filtering+Plan+to+Include+P2P+Traffic

Aussie Internet Filtering Plan to Include P2P Traffic

We've covered the situation in Australia quite extensively here at Zeropaid. It all started as a voluntary effort to "protect children," but quickly spiraled into an all out attempt by the Australian govt to make it mandatory for ISPs to filter the Internet of all "inappropriate content" and "offensive and illegal material." It quickly deteriorated from an attempt to somehow safeguard children from things like child pornography to things like legal pornography and gambling and has made Australian citizens rightly upset.

Broadband Minister Stephen Conroy, the main proponent of the plan, has now launched a blog on the Australian Govt's Dept of Broadband, Communications and the Digital Economy website in order to promote the heavily criticized plan that threatens to reduce Internet connection speeds by 87% and institute a system of censorship with no oversight.

In a recent posting, Conroy is now touting a $125.8 million Cyber-Safety Plan intended to be a "comprehensive set of measures to combat online threats and help parents and educators protect children from inappropriate material." In order to protect these innocent and helpless children the govt intends to fund ISP-level filtering, a plan which involves more technical interference in the Internet infrastructure than what is attempted even in Iran.

I feel so sorry now than for those P2P downloader there in this Ozzieland

Confirm this place only for the goondu idiot of Sinkeeland
 

shockshiok

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I feel so sorry now than for those P2P downloader there in this Ozzieland

Confirm this place only for the goondu idiot of Sinkeeland

there will be silence over this issue. the subprime singaporeans there are very quiet. must be they are used to govt control.

hee hee
 
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