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[Loofydralb]

That means Catholics worship statues ? Like mudslimes worship the black stone?

You seem to appear unable to discern the difference. Again...

Worship has some key elements. One of it, is the belief that the object of worship can hear, see and understand us and grant wishes. Another is that, it has power to do special 'things'. In fact some religions will trade favours for money to these idols. Isn't that funny?
Now we Muslims do not believe any of that on the Black Stone. Any Muslims who does that, automatically exits Islam. To us it is just another stone Allah dropped from the heavens. No special powers absolutely.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

You seem to appear unable to discern the difference. Again...

Worship has some key elements. One of it, is the belief that the object of worship can hear, see and understand us and grant wishes. Another is that, it has power to do special 'things'. In fact some religions will trade favours for money to these idols. Isn't that funny?
Now we Muslims do not believe any of that on the Black Stone. Any Muslims who does that, automatically exits Islam. To us it is just another stone Allah dropped from the heavens. No special powers absolutely.

So what makes u think that Catholics believe that those statues have magic etc...? Because the way Catholics act in front of those statues like mudslimes and the stone? And yet mudslimes seem more obsessed with the stone than Catholics are with their statues

 

[syed putra]

In other words, you don't have any evidence.

Its based on long time common law known as first come first serve or finders keepers. So too bad.

 

[syed putra]

So what makes u think that Catholics believe that those statues have magic etc...? Because the way Catholics act in front of those statues like mudslimes and the stone? And yet mudslimes seem more obsessed with the stone than Catholics are with their statues

Both are similar.

 

[syed putra]

Now we Muslims do not believe any of that on the Black Stone. Any Muslims who does that, automatically exits Islam. To us it is just another stone Allah dropped from the heavens. No special powers absolutely.

This is where many fall in the trap without knowing.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Both are similar.

How can that be? Catholics are not terrorists. As a matter of fact.. Catholics get terrorised by the mudslimes and the left

 

[Loofydralb]

So what makes u think that Catholics believe that those statues have magic etc...? Because the way Catholics act in front of those statues like mudslimes and the stone? And yet mudslimes seem more obsessed with the stone than Catholics are with their statues

They talk and ask for favours. Then they bow down in reverence, plus gift money and valuables in return for those favours.
Muslims are absent to idols on that as we have no idols.

 

[syed putra]

How can that be? Catholics are not terrorists. As a matter of fact.. Catholics get terrorised by the mudslimes and the left

You tell that to the incas, mayans and aztecs. The looting of their community turned spain into the wealthiest country on the planet.

 

[k1976]

You tell that to the incas, mayans and aztecs. The looting of their community turned spain into the wealthiest country on the planet.

They squandered that $$$$$ away in 16th century to invade England...the remainant cam be found at bottom of English Channel today

 

[Hypocrite-The]

You tell that to the incas, mayans and aztecs. The looting of their community turned spain into the wealthiest country on the planet.

And where is Spain now? And u think the Aztecs and Mayans not cruel and sadistics?

 

[Hypocrite-The]

They talk and ask for favours. Then they bow down in reverence, plus gift money and valuables in return for those favours.
Muslims are absent to idols on that as we have no idols.

No idols? What about Mecca and the black stone and Zam ZAM water?

 

[Loofydralb]

No idols? What about Mecca and the black stone and Zam ZAM water?

What about them? Mecca is just a city.
Black stone is just a stone.
Zamzam is just water.

They absolutely have no power except Allah.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

What about them? Mecca is just a city.
Black stone is just a stone.
Zamzam is just water.

They absolutely have no power except Allah.

And yet mudslimes pray towards Mecca, have to perform the Haj...n kiss the black stone...if that is not worship..than u are just a liar

 

[Loofydralb]

And yet mudslimes pray towards Mecca, have to perform the Haj...n kiss the black stone...if that is not worship..than u are just a liar

Yes mecca is just the direction that we are united to face at. Remove everything there and still we will be facing the same direction.
Haj is visiting the very first house of worship to the only true God built by Prophet Ibrahim.
Kissing the black stone does not confer anything special. No different from kissing your mother. You don't take your mother as an idol, no?

Now go read again the indications of what constitute an idol and idol worship.
Even the Jews say you worship idols and deny you worship one god:

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Yes mecca is just the direction that we are united to face at. Remove everything there and still we will be facing the same direction.
Haj is visiting the very first house of worship to the only true God built by Prophet Ibrahim.
Kissing the black stone does not confer anything special. No different from kissing your mother. You don't take your mother as an idol, no?

Now go read again the indications of what constitute an idol and idol worship.
Even the Jews say you worship idols and deny you worship one god:

The followers of Judaism and mudslimes hate Christians.. So wat they say is definitely put to discredit...

 

[JohnTan]

Then tell us what church you go to. Or better still, show photos of what is in your church.

Show us a picture of your nric first.

Till now you still cannot deny you worship idols, images, statues.

That's easy. I don't bow before stones or kiss them believing that they can forgive sins or perform miracles.

I'm not a moslem, so unlike mohammedans like you, I don't worship or bow before stone and idols.

And to you Jesus is God. Holy Goh is God. The Father is God.
Deny the above or deny your are a polytheist.

You misquoted your silly 1924 Cairo quran. Your moslem quran said that the Trinity was God the Father, Mary the Mother and Jesus the Son.

Your fake prophet was such a total fucktard that he actually thought that God fucked Mary to give birth to Jesus. Why are you following such a fucktard like muhammad? Did you parents name you after that pedophile of a moron too?

 

[JohnTan]

Its based on long time common law known as first come first serve or finders keepers. So too bad.

Wasn't Raffles the first to be here? There's a statue of Raffles at Boat Quay someplace. No statues of muuds.

 

[syed putra]

Wasn't Raffles the first to be here? There's a statue of Raffles at Boat Quay someplace. No statues of muuds.

thre are graveyards of malay noblemen all over the island, including in bintan and batam. Last malacca sultanate grave is on bintan island. I think.

 

[JohnTan]

thre are graveyards of malay noblemen all over the island, including in bintan and batam. Last malacca sultanate grave is on bintan island. I think.

Bintan, batam and malacca are not in Singapore. No muud nobleman graveyard around here, let alone any muud nobleman.

 

[Loofydralb]

I'm not a moslem, so unlike mohammedans like you, I don't worship or bow before stone and idols.

But you worship bow, talk and beseech help from idols and images and man.