Khaw said cronyism is alright.

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Khaw: Town councils should be linked to MPs, not run by HDB
The minister said in Parliament that MPs should have authority and responsibility over what is done or how well things work. -Singapolitics
Goh Chin Lian

Mon, May 13, 2013
Singapolitics
The need to create a link between an elected MP and his voters through his work in the town council is a strategic imperative which cannot be faulted, said National Development Minister Khaw Boon Wan on Monday.
“We should not return to a situation where HDB administers estates all over Singapore, and MPs have no authority or responsibility over what is done or how well things work,” he said in a ministerial statement on town councils in Parliament.
However, he noted gaps in the current rules on handover of town councils between one political party to another, resulting in disagreements and difficulties, including recently when Punggol East changed hands from a People’s Action Party (PAP) town council to a Workers’ Party-run town council.
Political pressures on town councils also lead to poorer outcomes for residents, such as delaying necessary increases in Service and Conservancy Charges (S&CC) which go to building up the councils’ sinking fund, and failing to strictly enforce by-laws on issues like obstruction of common corridors, he said.
He revealed that a government review of town councils, led by Senior Minister of State for National Development Lee Yi Shyan, will look into three broad areas.
They are the councils’ duties and responsibilities in relation to HDB, the adequacy of their sinking funds and long-term financial sustainability, and the arrangements when they change hands between MPs.

 

[kongsimi]

when you pay big peanuts...you get even bigger monkeys!

 

[eErotica69]

when you pay big peanuts...you get even bigger monkeys!

Pay 10% of salary get what?

 

[kingrant]

This is called blatant PAP thuggery. Even when they have lost the ward, they still force the constituency to accept their non-elected candidate as grassroots advisors. So it's want to win dont want to lose kind of sinke mentality perpetuated by the Old Man, who refused to accept any form of defeat.

Today's more educated younger and idealistic voters are seeing thru this shenanigans and will not accept such behaviour. PAP always says they want to change and listen to the people, but here yet again, we have to watch their feet not their lips.

A defeat in GE2015 is the only way to hammer them.

 

[greenie]

Seems like nowadays our Khaw talked, i mean moooo alot.

 

[hungryboi]

Oh my tian! We, the citizens of Singapore, have been playing music to a COW for so many years!

 

[ahpong]

Oh my tian! We, the citizens of Singapore, have been playing music to a COW for so many years!

A quiter from malaysia teaching a local born Singaporean about patriotism! What a joke.

 

[neddy]

A quiter from malaysia teaching a local born Singaporean about patriotism! What a joke.

Don't blame Malaysians.

I just learnt from someone who used to work in NTUC that they have to attend a one-day course conducted by an ex-SAF officer that the practice of favoritism is OK. If the manager need to get things done, they need to find willing people who will do the job. And if the pet employee do the job well, promotion is in the pipeline for the pet.

No big deal.



As an Asian leader, there are also loads of dirty tricks to con the people, just that in Singapore, the people are so obedient that these tricks are not used yet.

 

[I_hv_adream]

Wao lau look like the debates are not here to comvince the public but to convince the 60% kar kee lang only.

The whole saga should require an independent board of inquiry. As the saying goes, 'real gold does not fear fire'!

Let's don't waste any more time.

Both should be happy as all are allow to appoint their own IT support company.

 

[winnipegjets]

Political pressures on town councils also lead to poorer outcomes for residents, such as delaying necessary increases in Service and Conservancy Charges (S&CC) which go to building up the councils’ sinking fund, and failing to strictly enforce by-laws on issues like obstruction of common corridors, he said.He revealed that a government review of town councils, led by Senior Minister of State for National Development Lee Yi Shyan, will look into three broad areas.
They are the councils’ duties and responsibilities in relation to HDB, the adequacy of their sinking funds and long-term financial sustainability, and the arrangements when they change hands between MPs.

Looks like the PAP is trying some other strategy to force the WP TC to fail.
Why should the government interfere in the management of the TC? If the WP TC chooses not to increase conservancy fees, why should the government tell it that it has to do so when the WP TC does not have any deficit and is running a surplus?
If the PAP wants MP to run the TCs, then the government should butt out. The residents have spoken with their votes, the government should just respect that.

 

[eat_n_die]

Looks like the PAP is trying some other strategy to force the WP TC to fail.
Why should the government interfere in the management of the TC? If the WP TC chooses not to increase conservancy fees, why should the government tell it that it has to do so when the WP TC does not have any deficit and is running a surplus?
If the PAP wants MP to run the TCs, then the government should butt out. The residents have spoken with their votes, the government should just respect that.

err don't think PAP force or interfere is WP found some deficiency with AIM right???

Anyway this is what my friend said to me and I totally agreed with it:

Quote:Mr Khaw kept insisting that such software is quite standard and is available in the market which one can buy from. In other words, Mr Khaw is implying that even if the contract is terminated today, one can simply walk into, say, Funan Centre tomorrow, to buy the software off-the-shelf like Microsoft Office.

Mr Khaw seemed to forget that the software was developed over 1-2 years at a cost of $23.8 million. Can anyone simply walk into Funan Centre to buy a $23.8 million software? Or perhaps he thought that the town council management software is like his $8 bypass surgery, which is quite a standard operation these days?

Mr Khaw also tried to shift his stand and talked about the “key point”, which is that AIM was willing to extend the contract if WP had asked for it. But he said WP didn’t, implying that it was WP’s fault for not asking, nevermind if the contract actually contained the legal time-bomb of the 1-month termination clause which AIM could unilaterally terminate.

 

[eat_n_die]

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气温33度，汗流不止。老规矩，休息，等汗水流尽，看报，今天行动党又胡扯蛋啥了吗？

哈哈，看早报第一版头条新闻-- 鱼尾狮公园非法示威活动 三名参与者工作或访问准证被取消！

难怪我的早报就在这则新闻边被我手腕的汗水给弄穿破洞。

八频道今早播放警方的文告说，新加坡政府坚持不会对外国发生的事件公开干预。不知道外交部长就马来西亚第13届大选发表的有关注意到马来西亚华人的投票倾向算不算干预他国内政！？

我没啥学问，更没在衙门里呆过，不会

看看今早拍的湖水照片。湖水非常浑浊。这个湖是人造湖。什么是人造湖，就是用人工挖掘成的湖。湖水一部份是上天赐给的，一部份是用钱买水灌注进去的。湖底有啥，咱们后人确实看不到，也无从知道 除非开凿的人给咱们一十一五给咱娓娓道来。

这个湖少说也有近20的历史了吧，哪天湖水见底，那湖底春秋确实让人惊讶不止！

行动党的AIM 事件就和这个人造湖一样。尽管他们想尽办法，用托字诀也罢，打墨鱼战也罢，耍胡赖也行，或者说，AIM本来就是行动党收养的二奶又咋样！都行。

我就劝许文远，悠着点。别动了元气，因为他花了8个块大洋做的心脏绕道手术是经承受不起了外来的刺激的啊！当然，8块大洋对他而言就是毛毛雨，小菜一碟。但是，他也总得为自己的龙体着想，也得为家人的担心着想啊
那是党国元老干的事，你按耐不住工人林瑞莲小姐用文火炖猪脚，又看不惯她抽丝般的耐性，你发火了！你失态了！出家人吗，要有修高尚的道行啊！

事实求实的说，让林勋强来说AIM 的故事还可以，因为他是当时干过国家发展部长的的活的人

算球。行动党的Aim 的事就像我眼前这个人造湖的建造过程一样。行动党就把湖水抽干，让人民看看湖底乾坤，好过你们浪费纳税人的钱在国会里胡说八道！你们既然无法回答工人党的质，就说，小姐，大爷我服了。您看现在咋办不就得了。千万不要拖到2016年，那就流年不利啊！阿门！善哉！

 

[Goh Meng Seng]

Cronyism is of course not alright! So, are you going to criticise WP for allowing the husband of the GM of HGTC to get contracts (undisclosed amount) back in the decade? As well as WP for appointing the few-days-old company owned by these same couple as managing agent without any tender back in 2011?

PAP has been doing these all this while, throughout decades, awarding contracts to their supporters who sit on CCC and RC. WP is just learning from PAP, I guess. In short PAP and WP samma samma. This is what Khaw implied. So you can't point fingers at PAP without reprimanding WP.

Goh Meng Seng

 

[saratogas]

Same for Nation level... Create Temasek Holdings to invest OUR $$$, when loss $ just keep quiet... But when earn... Pay themselves huge bonus!

When you vote it always comes in a package.

 

[kingrant]

WP can and shld call Khaw's bluff. Let everybody dismantle their crony practices or better still, pass the management of HDB estates back to HDB! Let's see who stand to lose more? The WP with two TCs or the PAP with lots more?

By declaring openly that WP is ready to stop the practice immed, it will seize the moral high ground and will turn the tables back on PAP and demonise PAP and put the pressure on them to follow.

The WP shld argue that PAP is to blame for this partisan politicking because it was a PAP ploy and in passing back the buck to HDB, WP does not have to worry about not being able to find MAs or contracting firms to do their TC work. If estate mgmt standards fall, this will fall squarely back on the govt.

This TC construct is an evil shenanigan by the scheming PAP to hamstring the Opp. WP must not play tit for tat but argue for its total abolition.

WP shld propose a House motion to disallow political affiliated companies from tendering and deconstruct the TC system. If the PAP (as it will) defeat the motion, then it will show to the people who are the rogues and who the victims.

Cronyism is of course not alright! So, are you going to criticise WP for allowing the husband of the GM of HGTC to get contracts (undisclosed amount) back in the decade? As well as WP for appointing the few-days-old company owned by these same couple as managing agent without any tender back in 2011?

PAP has been doing these all this while, throughout decades, awarding contracts to their supporters who sit on CCC and RC. WP is just learning from PAP, I guess. In short PAP and WP samma samma. This is what Khaw implied. So you can't point fingers at PAP without reprimanding WP.

Goh Meng Seng

 

[Narong Wongwan]

Today's more educated younger and idealistic voters are seeing thru this shenanigans and will not accept such behaviour. PAP always says they want to change and listen to the people, but here yet again, we have to watch their feet not their lips.

A defeat in GE2015 is the only way to hammer them.

let's hope these young ones dun let us down.
Only afraid that FT tsunami might neutralize them.......

 

[Bigfuck]

Khaw is a poorly educated scoundrel with no morals and wants to claim moral high ground. With his kind of grades today, no WDA or CDC would look at him. He make try working for cleaning agencies at 800S$/day working 16 hours or more. We need new talented people to run Singapore and Leegime has none of them.

 

[Bigfuck]

Sacrificing this Khaw is even more obvious.

 

[tanwahp]

WP can and shld call Khaw's bluff. Let everybody dismantle their crony practices or better still, pass the management of HDB estates back to HDB! Let's see who stand to lose more? The WP with two TCs or the PAP with lots more?

By declaring openly that WP is ready to stop the practice immed, it will seize the moral high ground and will turn the tables back on PAP and demonise PAP and put the pressure on them to follow.

The WP shld argue that PAP is to blame for this partisan politicking because it was a PAP ploy and in passing back the buck to HDB, WP does not have to worry about not being able to find MAs or contracting firms to do their TC work. If estate mgmt standards fall, this will fall squarely back on the govt.

This TC construct is an evil shenanigan by the scheming PAP to hamstring the Opp. WP must not play tit for tat but argue for its total abolition.

WP shld propose a House motion to disallow political affiliated companies from tendering and deconstruct the TC system. If the PAP (as it will) defeat the motion, then it will show to the people who are the rogues and who the victims.

In the same way as the GRC, the opposition MPs may not want to run the town councils, but have no power to change the system. However to say that can be misconstrued as wanting to shirk their "responsibilities" as MPs. (When Goh Meng Seng said it was not MPs job to run TCs, he received flak. He could have meant that it is not the original role as a MP under the Westminster system, but was misconstrued to be saying that he/his team will not touch the existing TC if elected, scaring residents.)

There is also a possibility that the TC system can act as a buffer against discrimination of facilities and improvements in opposition wards, as the opposition TC has some resource to carry out improvements.

 

[kingrant]

Let's take it one step at a time. First challenge the dubious objective of MPs running TCs. Then challenge the act of discriminating against wards that vote Opp. The latter ploy is in fact losing its teeth as more and more voters esp the younger set, are waking up to the PAP's machinations.

Put estates and upgrading back at the feet of HDB. The PAP will have to do a better job if they dont want to lose more seats.

In the same way as the GRC, the opposition MPs may not want to run the town councils, but have no power to change the system. However to say that can be misconstrued as wanting to shirk their "responsibilities" as MPs. (When Goh Meng Seng said it was not MPs job to run TCs, he received flak. He could have meant that it is not the original role as a MP under the Westminster system, but was misconstrued to be saying that he/his team will not touch the existing TC if elected, scaring residents.)

There is also a possibility that the TC system can act as a buffer against discrimination of facilities and improvements in opposition wards, as the opposition TC has some resource to carry out improvements.