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imaginary friend

fishbuff

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when you have a non-powerful imaginary friend like a tooth fairy, people will tend to discredit it easily.

but when you have an all powerful imaginary friend, then few people will dare to challenge nor try to discredit it.

when one person believe in imaginary friend, it is called schizophrenia.

when a whole lot of people believe in imaginary friend, it is called a religion.
 

Psalm23

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when you have a non-powerful imaginary friend like a tooth fairy, people will tend to discredit it easily.

but when you have an all powerful imaginary friend, then few people will dare to challenge nor try to discredit it.

when one person believe in imaginary friend, it is called schizophrenia.

when a whole lot of people believe in imaginary friend, it is called a religion.

Fishy,

Couldn't disagree with you!

That's why evolutionists (or evilutionists) are either schizophrenia or ultra-religious people who put their faithi n this theory of hoax, evolution. Sadly, in today's context, the majority, over 70% of the people at least believe in this religion of evolution. You can prove this statistics very easily. Just go to your office and ask your colleagues, and I can tell you that 7 out of 10 people believe in evolution and this is a very conservative estimate. They believe in this man named Charles Darwin who simply imagined and craved this theory after examined some birds and marine shells, fishes. And in spite of his imaginary writing, what he imagined and craved out turned to be one of the most powerful religions, the religion of evolution, they world has ever known. If you have gone through his writings, biography, you will be very surprised to see how he reacted when he realised that his imaginary story have turned so many people into believing that was true, he though he kept telling people there were many presupposes in his theory. I think he must be laughing all the way to his grave. And even after he is dead and gone, there are even more people believe in his theory. He has in fact turned many people into
schizophrenia!

Psalm23
 

Psalm23

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when you have a non-powerful imaginary friend like a tooth fairy, people will tend to discredit it easily.

but when you have an all powerful imaginary friend, then few people will dare to challenge nor try to discredit it.

when one person believe in imaginary friend, it is called schizophrenia.

when a whole lot of people believe in imaginary friend, it is called a religion.

By the way, Fish, this definition of Schizophernia is taken from one of your messages in the blog here:

Schizophrenia is a brain disorder that affects the way a person acts, thinks, and sees the world. People with schizophrenia have an altered perception of reality, often a significant loss of contact with reality. They may see or hear things that don’t exist, speak in strange or confusing ways, believe that others are trying to harm them, or feel like they’re being constantly watched. With such a blurred line between the real and the imaginary, schizophrenia makes it difficult—even frightening—to negotiate the activities of daily life. In response, people with schizophrenia may withdraw from the outside world or act out in confusion and fear.

Did you see yourself fit this definition?

Psalm23
 

kongsimi

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schizo fishbuff thinks GOD is going to hurt him.

really ha no idea where he gets his ideas from.
 
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fishbuff

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hi nutjobs, here's some articles that you might want to share with your imaginary friend.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_and_schizophrenia

Background
Schizophrenia

Schizophrenia is a complex mental disorder characterized by a difficulty in recognizing reality, regulating emotional responses, thinking in a clear and logical manner, and behaving in a socially accepted manner.[1] It is unclear what causes schizophrenia at this time, but it seems that genetics play a heavy role, as individuals with a family history are far more likely to suffer from schizophrenia.[2][3] The disorder can be triggered and exacerbated by social and environmental factors, with episodes becoming more apparent in periods of high stress. Symptoms usually appear around the onset of early adulthood.[4] It is rare for a child to be diagnosed with schizophrenia, in part because of the difficulty in establishing what erroneous thoughts and beliefs can be attributed to childhood development and which thoughts and believes can be attributed to schizophrenia. With medication (usually antipsychotics) and therapy, schizophrenics can live successful, productive lives.
Religious delusions
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One of the most commonly reported varieties of delusions from those with schizophrenia are religious delusions. A delusion is a thought or belief that holds no basis in reality, yet the sufferer staunchly believes it to be true, even in the face of clear evidence to the contrary. A religious delusion has an overtly religious nature to it, often involving hearing the voice of God, feeling commanded by God, being possessed by demons, and other unrealistic phenomena. These delusions occasionally become violent, ending in the death of the sufferer and/or another individual(s). Though rare, cases of this nature have been reported in the past. It can be difficult to place blame in such instances, especially if the perpetrator has not yet been diagnosed with schizophrenia. These individuals do not have an actual desire to cause harm outside of the disorder, but because of the nature of schizophrenia, they are largely powerless to control it. With proper medication and treatment, however, a schizophrenia patient will quickly return to a socially acceptable level of behavior.

Although religious delusions are a commonplace phenomenon in schizophrenic patients, religious delusions are not unique to schizophrenics alone; rather, it is entirely possible for an otherwise healthy individual to experience such a delusion separate from any mental disorder. Similarly, a schizophrenic can experience a delusion void of religious content whatsoever. For instance, a paranoid schizophrenic may incorrectly believe that a government agency is pursuing them. An example of religious delusion without schizophrenia would be churchgoers speaking in tongues or feeling the "hand of God" upon them. Another example is Jerusalem syndrome, a phenomenon in which visitors to Jerusalem are overcome with religious fervor and psychosis, oftentimes believing that they themselves are the Messiah; however, evidence to support the claim of such a syndrome is limited, and it is not listed in any edition of the DSM.
Schizophrenia and religious delusions

The relationship between religion and schizophrenia is of particular interest to psychologists because of the similarities between religious experiences and schizophrenic episodes; religious experiences often involve auditory and/or visual hallucinations, and schizophrenics commonly report similar hallucinations, along with a variety of delusions and faulty beliefs. A common report from those with schizophrenia is some kind of a religious delusion - that is, they believe they are divine beings, God is talking to them, they are possessed by demons, etc.[5][6][7] In a study of schizophrenia patients that had been previously admitted to a hospital, 24% had had religious delusions.[8] Because of the inherent similarities between religious belief and schizophrenia, it has led some researchers to question whether schizophrenia leads an individual to become more religious, or if intense religiosity leads to schizophrenia.[9]
Role of religion in schizophrenia treatment

It has been shown in longitudinal studies that those suffering from schizophrenia have varying degrees of success when religion plays a significant role in their recovery.[10] It would seem that the use of religion can either be a helpful method of coping with the disorder, or it can be a significant hindrance in recovery. Religion, depending on how a patient views it, can be paralyzing and quite harmful, in that a patient may refuse treatment based on religious beliefs; in certain instances, one might believe that their delusions and hallucinations are actually a divine experience, and would therefore deny any need for treatment. On the other hand, religion can also be a very valuable tool in coping with the disorder, especially for those who are active in a religious community.[11] Provided that a therapist is open to the use of religion in one's treatment, it is possible to tie religion in with professional therapeutic aids and medication in order to meet a desirable goal.[12]
Religion as a trigger for schizophrenia

Schizophrenia can be triggered by a variety of environmental factors, including significant stress, intensely emotional situations, and disturbing or uncomfortable media. It is possible that religion itself may be a trigger for schizophrenia; religious imagery is often very grandiose, and defies our commonly-held beliefs of what is realistic and natural in the world. Experiencing an intense religious experience may trigger a schizophrenic episode in those who are vulnerable to them, because religion often requires a believer to suspend their usual idea of what is possible and impossible. This could potentially lead to a schizophrenic episode due to the shift in realistic thinking; a sufferer may believe that they themselves are religious deities or Messiahs, or that God himself is speaking to the individual. It has been shown that those with schizophrenia who suffer from religious delusions are more religious than those who do not suffer from these delusions.[13] It has also been shown that those who suffer from religious delusions are less likely to continue long-term treatment.[14]
 

fishbuff

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seriously, psalm23 and kongsimi, xiao lang usually say they are sane and everyone else is crazy.
Can you both please stop listening to your imaginary jewish friend and stop denying yourselves from psychiatric treatment?

you are just hurting your family and yourselves if you keep continuing on on this path of delusion.



M*W: Scientists have concluded that there is a deeply manifested relationship between religion and schizophrenia. Common symptoms of non-treated schizophrenics include delusions of both spirituality and religiousness. Religious belief delusions vary across cultures. The impact of religion does not always have a positive outcome. In fact, religious delusions may play a part in substance abuse and suicide attempts. Psychiatrists have found that using religion as part of a patient's treatment can often have adverse outcomes.

Researchers studied patients having religious delusions to determine how religious beliefs and practices influenced psychotic illness. They found that religious delusions and hallucinations may lead to violent behavior. Kraya and Patrick found that religious delusions led some patients to commit homicide (1). Field and Waldfogel, et al., along with Waugh in a separate study, found that religiously deluded people have quoted Bible scripture after plucking out one or more eyes (2) or cutting off the testicles (3). Religious delusions about the antichrist have led other patients toward violent behaviors (4).

In a ongoing study by Mohr and Huguelet, their delusional patients who believed they had a close relationship with God, believed that God told them to inflict serious bodily injury to themselves or to others. They found that these same patients heard God's voice telling them to pray, to go to church, to read their Bible, and not to take medication because it hinders their praying and quietens God's voice in their mind (5).

In a study of inpatients with schizophrenia, conducted by Siddle and Haddock, et al., those with religious delusions were the most severely ill with religious delusions that were more frequently observed and lasted for longer periods of time (6).

For their patients with schizophrenia, psychiatrists believe that religion and spirituality cannot be used as tools for ongoing social support as they can lead to a more pathological condition.

Bibliography

(1) Kraya N, Patrick C., Folie a deux in forensic setting. Aust N Z J Psychiatry 1997;31:883-8.

(2) Field H, Waldfogel S. Severe ocular self-injury. Gen Hosp Psychiatry 1995;17:224-7.

(3) Waugh A. Auto-castration and biblical delusions in schizophrenia. Br J Psychiatry 1986;149;656-9.

(4) Silva JA, Leong GB, Weinstock R. Violent behaviors associated with the antichrist delusion. J Forensic Sci 1997;42:1058-61.

(5) Mohr S and Huguelet P. The relationship between schizophrenia and religion and its implications for care. Swiss Med Wkly 2004;134:369-376.

(6) Siddle R, Haddock G, Tarrier N, Faragher EB. Religious delusions in patients admitted to hospital with schizophrenia. Soc Psychiatry Psychiatr Epidemiol. 2002;37:130-8.
 
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fishbuff

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i always hear from religious nutjobs that they hear god, jesus and angel's voices and that includes the devil. A typical sign of schizophrenia.

i have not read or hear a single articles about critical thinking, atheism and schizophrenia before.
 

PUNISHER

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Fishy,

Couldn't disagree with you!

That's why evolutionists (or evilutionists) are either schizophrenia or ultra-religious people who put their faithi n this theory of hoax, evolution. Sadly, in today's context, the majority, over 70% of the people at least believe in this religion of evolution. You can prove this statistics very easily. Just go to your office and ask your colleagues, and I can tell you that 7 out of 10 people believe in evolution and this is a very conservative estimate. They believe in this man named Charles Darwin who simply imagined and craved this theory after examined some birds and marine shells, fishes. And in spite of his imaginary writing, what he imagined and craved out turned to be one of the most powerful religions, the religion of evolution, they world has ever known. If you have gone through his writings, biography, you will be very surprised to see how he reacted when he realised that his imaginary story have turned so many people into believing that was true, he though he kept telling people there were many presupposes in his theory. I think he must be laughing all the way to his grave. And even after he is dead and gone, there are even more people believe in his theory. He has in fact turned many people into
schizophrenia!

Psalm23

Are u really that stupid or act stupid ? Since when evolutionists belongs to a religion ? Siao Lang , do u know what u are talking ? Or u just wanted to defence your cult without reasoning .
 
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