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I like Windows 8

Thick Face Black Heart

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i don't know if age is creeping up on me, or couple of screws have come lose somewhere deep in the cranial region.

WIndows 8 has become an excellent experience. No more caching or CSS problems. Quick startup and shutdown times, automatic updates perform seamlessly in the background and during startup/shutdown, operating system never crashes. No speed or performance issues despite not defragging HDD.

Is my experience an outlier? (p/s: i don't own MSFT stock, so pls don't accuse me of touting)
 

tomoko

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You have no complaints about the Start button? Many people have complaints, Microsoft caved in and will bring back the Start button in Windows 8.1.
 

Froggy

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i don't know if age is creeping up on me, or couple of screws have come lose somewhere deep in the cranial region.

WIndows 8 has become an excellent experience. No more caching or CSS problems. Quick startup and shutdown times, automatic updates perform seamlessly in the background and during startup/shutdown, operating system never crashes. No speed or performance issues despite not defragging HDD.

Is my experience an outlier? (p/s: i don't own MSFT stock, so pls don't accuse me of touting)

You should have a go at Mac's OS X at leasts once to compare.
 

tomoko

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It is a button on the bottom left corner, you won't miss it. See examples below. You use the Start button to open other programs etc

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Thick Face Black Heart

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My laptop comes installed with a menu taskbar at the top centre of the desktop. I click on it, and then click on "Shut Down" to turn my laptop off.
 

laksaboy

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i don't know if age is creeping up on me, or couple of screws have come lose somewhere deep in the cranial region.

WIndows 8 has become an excellent experience. No more caching or CSS problems. Quick startup and shutdown times, automatic updates perform seamlessly in the background and during startup/shutdown, operating system never crashes. No speed or performance issues despite not defragging HDD.

Is my experience an outlier? (p/s: i don't own MSFT stock, so pls don't accuse me of touting)

Windows 8: the result of Microsoft attempting to force a UI for phones onto desktops.

Quick startup/shutdown times: Microsoft has 'cheated' on a technical aspect to achieve this. But it is definitely nice for marketing.
http://www.neowin.net/news/study-windows-8-takes-less-than-half-the-time-to-start-up-than-windows-7

Automatic updates: I never enable automatic updates. There has been at least one update from Microsoft this year that screwed up PCs, made them fail to boot up.


Windows 8 is about three main things for Microsoft:

1) Leveraging the Metro interface onto desktop users, hoping to familiarize them and get them to purchase Windows 8 phones and tablets.

2) Pushing the Microsoft app store onto you.

3) Pushing Microsoft's other products (Skype, Bing, Skydrive, Microsoft account etc) onto you.


Windows 8 is a worldwide flop.
 

StarshipTroopers

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Microsoft 'U-turn' sees Start button back on Windows 8


By Dave Lee
Technology reporter

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Microsoft has released screenshots confirming the return of a Start button to Windows 8

Microsoft has confirmed a Start button is returning to the desktop mode's taskbar of its Windows 8 operating system.

The lack of the facility - which had been in every previous version since Windows 95 - has been one of the most controversial aspects of the software.

However, it will not offer all the functionality previously associated with the feature.

Instead it will take users to the recently-introduced "Metro" interface.

"We've improved the way you navigate to Start with the mouse by changing the Start 'tip' to be the familiar Windows logo," the company said in a blog post.

"The new tip appears anytime you move the mouse to the bottom left corner of the screen, and is always visible on the taskbar when on the desktop."

On current versions of Windows 8, the start tip would only appear when users hovered their cursor over the lower-left corner of their screen.

In the 8.1 update, the area will be more visible.

A left-click on the tip will bring up a tile-based Start Screen - formerly known as the Metro interface - designed for touch-screen users.

A right-click will display a small menu of other options such as Event Viewer, Device Manager and Disk Management.

Another change will allow users to boot their computers directly into desktop mode, meaning they can avoid ever using the Start Screen if they wish.

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The Windows 7 Start button triggered a menu with apps and other links

Many users had complained that ditching the traditional Start Menu and introducing the Start Screen had made the system less straight-forward to use, meaning businesses which adopted it would need to retrain staff.

'New Coke'

Microsoft had been stung by claims that the expected reintroduction of a Start button would mark a major U-turn.

An article in the Financial Times described the move as one of the "most prominent admissions of failure for a new mass-market consumer product since Coca-Cola's New Coke fiasco nearly 30 years ago" - making reference to the soft drinks company's decision to ditch a new recipe after overwhelming customer dissatisfaction.

Microsoft later issued a statement saying it was "unfortunate" the FT did not represent the "good response to date on Windows 8."

A preview download of Windows 8.1 will be released to the public in June, and a final version before the end of the year. Both will be free of charge to existing users.

'A fudge'

Chris Green, principal technology analyst for the Davies Murphy Group, told the BBC he did not think the change would be enough to silence the critics.

"What they're proposing to do is a bit of a fudge.

"It's the bare minimum to say they've addressed people's complaints while not having to really backtrack on anything."

He said Microsoft faced a challenge in being able to innovative with Windows while also keeping its vast user base comfortable.

"When new operating systems come along, same with major applications, everything moves around. People hate it because they have to re-learn from scratch."

Other changes that will appear to users running the update include:

  • Added customisation options, with more choice over colours and backgrounds on the Start Screen.
  • An improved search function that covers web content as well as apps, files and settings on the PC.
  • A new version of the firm's web browser - Internet Explorer 11 - which Microsoft said would offer improved tools for developers.

 

johnny333

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I updated to Win 7 because it supported SSD drives. Otherwise I'd probably still be using XP.

Suspect most Win users don't care about these cosmetics. Those who care about quality have moved to Macs & iPads:wink:
 

singveld

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all notebook buyer must wait for haswell.

PC buyer no need to wait for haswell. I saw the review, a joke, hardly a upgrade from ivy bridge on a PC.
But a total different situation for notebook.
 
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