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Gospel of Barnabas will cause Christianity's collapse

Toronto

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...cause-Christianitys-collapse-Iran-claims.html

Seized from smugglers, the leather-bound 'gospel' which Iran claims will bring down Christianity and shake world politics


  • The text, written on animal hide, is thought to be an authentic version of the Gospel of Barnabas, one of Jesus's disciples
  • 'Laughable' Iranian report claims the book states that Jesus was never crucified and He predicted the coming of the Prophet Muhammad
  • It was discovered by Turkish authorities in 2000 during an anti-smuggling operation
  • The Vatican has made an official request to view the text

A leather-bound religious text, thought to date from the fifth century but discovered only 12 years ago, will cause the collapse of Christianity worldwide, claims Iran.
The book, written on animal hide, apparently states that Jesus was never crucified and that he himself predicted the coming of the Prophet Muhammad, according to the the Iranian press.
Written in Syriac, a dialect of Aramaic, the gospel even predicts the coming of the last Islamic messiah, the report adds.


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It certainly surprised many people, including the Vatican itself stronghold.
As reported by dailymail Basijpress and NationalTurk, that the original Gospel of Barnabas was discovered in 2000 in Turkey, but it is covered by the Turkish government for more than 12 years, and only now in the lay public.


Sheets of animal skin it's written letters to the Syriac dialect of Aramaic, the same language as the common language of Jesus Jesus Christ.


Parties Iran by Basij Press stated that what is written in the book of original Barnabas is evidence of the truth of Islam, which in spite of it taken up by cynical of the various parties.
Even the Christians through various jamaatnya stated that the Book of Barnabas is doubtful authenticity.

However, the Vatican has been wiser to declare an official request to the Turkish government to read and analyze the authenticity of the controversial book.
The clerics said that if the Bible Barnabas proved genuine, it will cause damage to the credibility of the Church, and it will cause a revolution massive Christianity throughout the world.

The Turkish government believed that the book of animal skin was the original Gospel of Barnabas.
The interesting thing about the Gospel of Barnabas Genuine Turkish origin states that JESUS ​​NEVER IN THE CROSS, and the presence of the verses which states that Islam is the true religion and the recognition of the presence of End-Time Prophet, the Prophet SAW Muhammmad.
The admission is contained in chapter 41 of the Book of Barnabas were discovered in Turkey are.
 

Psalm23

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........The interesting thing about the Gospel of Barnabas Genuine Turkish origin states that JESUS ​​NEVER IN THE CROSS, and the presence of the verses which states that Islam is the true religion and the recognition of the presence of End-Time Prophet, the Prophet SAW Muhammmad.....................

When it comes to ancient antiquities like a very old artifact or a very old book, it is extremely difficult (if not impossible) to really tell the source....i.e. who was the original writer; what was the intent, etc. Whatever we believe (or not believing) is largely based on our faith. Bible is an example and there are many theories to prove the authencity of the Bible, and equally there are many theories to disapprove its authencity. We believe the Bible is the word of God for one reason....if we really confess and accept we are sinners, only the story told in the Bible, i.e.only through the death of the Son of God we can be redeemed because the Blood of the Son of God, Jesus, is the way to our salvation.

Yes....one is right! If Jesus did not die on the cross, then the whole Christian doctrines and beliefs would be in great jeopardy. In fact, just to borrow from your words: Christianity will collapse. It is therefore 'no rocket science' that for people who try to destroy the Finished Work of Christ, the best approach is to destroy or distort the truth surrounding the Finished Work of Christ - His Death on the Cross: Simply tell people that Jesus did not die on the cross, and the so-called the Gospel of Barnabas is just doing this.

Satan does not mind, in fact more than happy to let Jesus be 'recognized' as a Prophet or even The Prophet. Answer and reason is simple: Prophet cannot save you from hell; Prophets (by Christian definitions) are people who can prophesied events about the coming of the Kingdom of God. All (except Jesus) were fallen human, sinners. They cannot save even themselves let alone to save others. So, you have prophets in the Bible and they are great personalities: Abraham, Issac, Jacob, Isaiah, etc, and of course Jesus Himself because He also propheised the coming of the New Kingdom of God. But as I mentioned, just being prophet alone, he or she cannot save the sinner from God's wrath and the final wrath of God is that all all sinners will be eternally separated from God and unless we are redeemed by the Blood of the Son of God, Jesus this is how human race will end up. These are propheised in both the Old and the New Testaments of the Bible.

We have to ponder the following questions to discover the gospel truth:

(a) Why the death of Jesus on the cross is always challenged by other religion, especially Islam? Why are they so concerned about this?
(b) It follows that the only way to redeem sinners - like you and me - from God's wrath is for a sinless person to die so as to be acceptable to God as the ultimate punishment. Who therefore can discharge this role? Prophet Moses? Prophet Joshua? Prophet Isaiah? Prophet Mohammed?
(c) If we can accept (and I know many cannot) that we are sinners and can only be saved by God Himself, other than the story told in the Bible, how could we all be saved from God's wrath? Can you provide an 'alternative story'?
(d) From (c) above, if Jesus is not the Son of God and was crucified on the cross, can we now expect a Saviour to come any sooner and how you think this Saviour is going to be born....pop-up from nowhere? By virgin birth, and given today's IVF technology, there are many virgin birth (to be more exact, surrogate briths) occuring every day. How would you be sure that which one is the real virgin birth, the one that is conceived by the Holy Spirit?
(e) How much more time you think you have and can the world wait any longer for the 'real Saviour' to be born now and waited for another 30 years to be crucified? And who or which government is going to hang this 'Saviour'?

Ponder upon the above questions and decide yourself whether to accept the Gospel of Barnabas or the Gospels of Mathew, Mark, Luke and John in the Bible.

God bless
Psalm23
 
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duluxe

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Jew,Christian, or Muslim, they are all guilty of crimes against humanity in the name of their religion.
 

GOD IS MY DOG

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Jew,Christian, or Muslim, they are all guilty of crimes against humanity in the name of their religion.



some more all false religions.............all 3 ''religions'' started in the middle east..............

these people kana heat stroke lah...............then see mirages of gods and devils................
 

gymkhana

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...cause-Christianitys-collapse-Iran-claims.html

Seized from smugglers, the leather-bound 'gospel' which Iran claims will bring down Christianity and shake world politics


  • The text, written on animal hide, is thought to be an authentic version of the Gospel of Barnabas, one of Jesus's disciples
  • 'Laughable' Iranian report claims the book states that Jesus was never crucified and He predicted the coming of the Prophet Muhammad
  • It was discovered by Turkish authorities in 2000 during an anti-smuggling operation
  • The Vatican has made an official request to view the text

A leather-bound religious text, thought to date from the fifth century but discovered only 12 years ago, will cause the collapse of Christianity worldwide, claims Iran.
The book, written on animal hide, apparently states that Jesus was never crucified and that he himself predicted the coming of the Prophet Muhammad, according to the the Iranian press.
Written in Syriac, a dialect of Aramaic, the gospel even predicts the coming of the last Islamic messiah, the report adds.


article-2149227-134654CD000005DC-125_634x405.jpg




It certainly surprised many people, including the Vatican itself stronghold.
As reported by dailymail Basijpress and NationalTurk, that the original Gospel of Barnabas was discovered in 2000 in Turkey, but it is covered by the Turkish government for more than 12 years, and only now in the lay public.


Sheets of animal skin it's written letters to the Syriac dialect of Aramaic, the same language as the common language of Jesus Jesus Christ.


Parties Iran by Basij Press stated that what is written in the book of original Barnabas is evidence of the truth of Islam, which in spite of it taken up by cynical of the various parties.
Even the Christians through various jamaatnya stated that the Book of Barnabas is doubtful authenticity.

However, the Vatican has been wiser to declare an official request to the Turkish government to read and analyze the authenticity of the controversial book.
The clerics said that if the Bible Barnabas proved genuine, it will cause damage to the credibility of the Church, and it will cause a revolution massive Christianity throughout the world.

The Turkish government believed that the book of animal skin was the original Gospel of Barnabas.
The interesting thing about the Gospel of Barnabas Genuine Turkish origin states that JESUS ​​NEVER IN THE CROSS, and the presence of the verses which states that Islam is the true religion and the recognition of the presence of End-Time Prophet, the Prophet SAW Muhammmad.
The admission is contained in chapter 41 of the Book of Barnabas were discovered in Turkey are.


Thank you bro Toronto..the truth shall set you free,

Oh and Ive read a bit of the Gospel of Thomas too..In it, Jesus (Alaihi Salaam) emphasised salvation thru deeds and not mere belief..I reckon thats not in line with the other four gospels so the council of Nicea threw that out too?

Interesting read and is available free from the NLB singapore..Elaine Pagels was a former evangelist preacher who , like Bart Erhman wanted to find out the truth and when they did, they err well ..left.
 
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Toronto

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The 4 known gospels are pretty much romanized. The good question to ask: why were these gospel specially fancied and picked by the roman court and not the rest of the known gospels at that time? Why none of the other gospels were included?

The irony, there are still roman subjects and imperial slaves (some called themselves protestants or evangelists) vehemently defending....
 

kryonlight

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Who cares about these holy trash? There is no God but yourself. God is just a figment of your imagination.
 

zeebjii

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Bro Toronto,

If you use stories from the bible or jesus-related tales to disprove christianity, it shows that you believe at least some parts of it, right?

Like this example, it means you belive jesus exists?

Honestly, i can see you turning into hardcare chrstian fanatic like so many so called anti-christ non-believers before.
 

drifteri

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Who cares about these holy trash? There is no God but yourself. God is just a figment of your imagination.

London bridge is falling down, falling down, falling down :wink:
Team drifter will collect bible for human destruction :wink:

Huat -ah, Huat -ah, Huat -ah :wink:
 

fishbuff

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Bro Toronto,

If you use stories from the bible or jesus-related tales to disprove christianity, it shows that you believe at least some parts of it, right?

Like this example, it means you belive jesus exists?

Honestly, i can see you turning into hardcare chrstian fanatic like so many so called anti-christ non-believers before.

jesus the historical figure did exist. Just like any other people in the history of mankind.

but do you believe all the hocus pocus stories that was described in the bible? and if you do, why won't you believe david copperfield, chris angel and other magicians?

does reality allow magic, superstitions, supernatural existence?


seriously, the language that jesus spoke during that time was Aramaic, the gospels were written 80 years later and in greek. do you smell a rat here?
 

PUNISHER

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When it comes to ancient antiquities like a very old artifact or a very old book, it is extremely difficult (if not impossible) to really tell the source....i.e. who was the original writer; what was the intent, etc. Whatever we believe (or not believing) is largely based on our faith. Bible is an example and there are many theories to prove the authencity of the Bible, and equally there are many theories to disapprove its authencity. We believe the Bible is the word of God for one reason....if we really confess and accept we are sinners, only the story told in the Bible, i.e.only through the death of the Son of God we can be redeemed because the Blood of the Son of God, Jesus, is the way to our salvation.

Yes....one is right! If Jesus did not die on the cross, then the whole Christian doctrines and beliefs would be in great jeopardy. In fact, just to borrow from your words: Christianity will collapse. It is therefore 'no rocket science' that for people who try to destroy the Finished Work of Christ, the best approach is to destroy or distort the truth surrounding the Finished Work of Christ - His Death on the Cross: Simply tell people that Jesus did not die on the cross, and the so-called the Gospel of Barnabas is just doing this.

Satan does not mind, in fact more than happy to let Jesus be 'recognized' as a Prophet or even The Prophet. Answer and reason is simple: Prophet cannot save you from hell; Prophets (by Christian definitions) are people who can prophesied events about the coming of the Kingdom of God. All (except Jesus) were fallen human, sinners. They cannot save even themselves let alone to save others. So, you have prophets in the Bible and they are great personalities: Abraham, Issac, Jacob, Isaiah, etc, and of course Jesus Himself because He also propheised the coming of the New Kingdom of God. But as I mentioned, just being prophet alone, he or she cannot save the sinner from God's wrath and the final wrath of God is that all all sinners will be eternally separated from God and unless we are redeemed by the Blood of the Son of God, Jesus this is how human race will end up. These are propheised in both the Old and the New Testaments of the Bible.

We have to ponder the following questions to discover the gospel truth:

(a) Why the death of Jesus on the cross is always challenged by other religion, especially Islam? Why are they so concerned about this?
(b) It follows that the only way to redeem sinners - like you and me - from God's wrath is for a sinless person to die so as to be acceptable to God as the ultimate punishment. Who therefore can discharge this role? Prophet Moses? Prophet Joshua? Prophet Isaiah? Prophet Mohammed?
(c) If we can accept (and I know many cannot) that we are sinners and can only be saved by God Himself, other than the story told in the Bible, how could we all be saved from God's wrath? Can you provide an 'alternative story'?
(d) From (c) above, if Jesus is not the Son of God and was crucified on the cross, can we now expect a Saviour to come any sooner and how you think this Saviour is going to be born....pop-up from nowhere? By virgin birth, and given today's IVF technology, there are many virgin birth (to be more exact, surrogate briths) occuring every day. How would you be sure that which one is the real virgin birth, the one that is conceived by the Holy Spirit?
(e) How much more time you think you have and can the world wait any longer for the 'real Saviour' to be born now and waited for another 30 years to be crucified? And who or which government is going to hang this 'Saviour'?

Ponder upon the above questions and decide yourself whether to accept the Gospel of Barnabas or the Gospels of Mathew, Mark, Luke and John in the Bible.

God bless
Psalm23


" When it comes to ancient antiquities like a very old artifact or a very old book, it is extremely difficult (if not impossible) to really tell the source....i.e. who was the original writer; what was the intent, etc. Whatever we believe (or not believing) is largely based on our faith. Bible is an example and there are many theories to prove the authencity of the Bible, and equally there are many theories to disapprove its authencity. We believe the Bible is the word of God for one reason....if we really confess and accept we are sinners, only the story told in the Bible"

You are slapping yourself again . If u said it is extremely difficult to tell old artifact or a very old book then why do u believe in your storybook ? You do not even give us explaination on why u believe it except your own delusional mind tell you it's real . thank you for showing us that how stupid Christians thinks about their blind faith .
 

kongsimi

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You guys are doing it the wrong way.

If you start your life making initial assumptions that you are a loser. You will become one in the end.

Like you start making assumptions that Jesus doesn't exist. You will find all sorts of evidences to disprove Jesus existence.

But on the other hand, for once you try to assume there is some possibility of Jesus existence and the bible authenticity, then you will try to seek out the truth about Jesus in the bible.

Anybody who has resurrected from the dead is definitely not a loser.

Stop being a loser. Be a winner through Jesus Christ. Our lord savior, King of Kings Lord of Lords.

If bible is a fabrication, how the heck it get so detailed and contains wealth of knowledge about humanities?

People at that time so free to make story? Huh? :rolleyes:
 
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PUNISHER

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You guys are doing it the wrong way.

If you start your life making initial assumptions that you are a loser. You will become one in the end.

Like you start making assumptions that Jesus doesn't exist. You will find all sorts of evidences to disprove Jesus existence.

But on the other hand, for once you try to assume there is some possibility of Jesus existence and the bible authenticity, then you will try to seek out the truth about Jesus in the bible.

Anybody who has resurrected from the dead is definitely not a loser.

Stop being a loser. Be a winner through Jesus Christ. Our lord savior, King of Kings Lord of Lords.

If bible is a fabrication, how the heck it get so detailed and contains wealth of knowledge about humanities?

People at that time so free to make story? Huh? :rolleyes:

What about u making assumption that the bible is real ? When u assume that the bible is real then you will become blind and can't even think of logical answer . For example , how can a snake talk :wink: you don't even think logically that a snake can never talk .

Bible is detailed ? So why didn't the bible talk about jesus when he was young ? :wink: anyone who tell ppl he is resurrected or can perform miracle must be a conman or a fake . are u so stupid not to know that ? The moment you start to believe the Bible is real is the time you don't talk sense . Of course ppl of that time is very free that's why can born so many children :wink:
 

drifteri

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Thank you bro Toronto..the truth shall set you free,

Oh and Ive read a bit of the Gospel of Thomas too..In it, Jesus (Alaihi Salaam) emphasised salvation thru deeds and not mere belief..I reckon thats not in line with the other four gospels so the council of Nicea threw that out too?

Interesting read and is available free from the NLB singapore..Elaine Pagels was a former evangelist preacher who , like Bart Erhman wanted to find out the truth and when they did, they err well ..left.

Salvation thru deeds will encourage a christian to treat a fellow human being well. In salvation by faith, it is not necessary to treat another fellow human being well especially non believers to go the heaven. Salvation by faith gives more political control to rulers:wink:
 

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Can you tell me how long has this Gospel of Barnabas been around? Then ask yourself why Christianity is still around. But maybe you have your own definition of what collapse mean.
 

Perspective

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This is too far-fetched. Aramaic language can refer to many languages just like Phoenician language. This is obviously not Hebrew used by Jews in the old days and in Jesus days Jews wrote mostly in Greek. The other gospels are in Greek.
 

Frodo

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This is too far-fetched. Aramaic language can refer to many languages just like Phoenician language. This is obviously not Hebrew used by Jews in the old days and in Jesus days Jews wrote mostly in Greek. The other gospels are in Greek.

As a medieval forgery the appearance of the Gospel of Barnabas is neither earth-shattering or Christian-collapsing.
 
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