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Fandi Ahmad refused to join Ajax TWICE

cooleo

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n 1978, at the age 16, Fandi then became the youngest-ever player ever to play for the Singapore national team (a feat erased in 2007 by young starlet Hariss Harun). In 1980 he was a member of the Singapore representative side which won the Malaysia Cup. He scored the winning goal in the final, where Singapore beat arch rivals Selangor 2-1.

In 1982, Fandi was offered a place at Ajax Amsterdam after a trial, but he rejected it due to his difficulties adapting to the language and lifestyle. Instead he chose to return to Asia and joined Niac Mitra in Indonesia.

In 1983, Fandi did move to the Netherlands, where he played for FC Groningen from 1983 to 1985 in the Dutch football league (Eredivisie). Prior to his arrival, Groningen had qualified for European football for the first time, and Fandi helped them in a dramatic European debut season by scoring in a shock 2-0 second round, first-leg win over Italian giants Inter Milan.[1][2] During the 1983-84 season, Fandi scored 10 times in 29 games. While in his second season at the club, Fandi made 15 appearances, scoring 2 goals. Fandi made a big impact on the Groningen fans, in 1999 he was voted one of the best 25 players ever to play for FC Groningen, earning him a place in the club's Hall of Fame.[3] In 2003, he was named in the club's best eleven of the twentieth century.

Although Fandi was offered a place again at Ajax Amsterdam, he chose to return to Asia in 1986. (He has since said that he regretted not further plying his trade in Europe. Nottingham Forest made an informal enquiry about his availability in the late-1990s, but decided he was too old.)

Fandi's played for Kuala Lumpur in Malaysia from 1986 to 1990, helping them win the Malaysia Cup three times in 1987, 1988 and 1989. He also won the Malaysian Golden Boot Award in 1988. He then joined OFI Crete in Greece in 1990. But this stint in Europe lasted only a few months, and he returned to Malaysia to join Pahang in 1991, and helped them win the Malaysian League and Malaysia Cup double in 1992.

In 1993, Fandi returned to Singapore to play for the Singapore side in the Malaysian League. That year he tasted Malaysia Cup final defeat for the first time when Singapore were beaten 2-0 by Kedah. But the following year, with Fandi as captain, Singapore won the Malaysian League and Malaysia Cup double, and Fandi scored in the Malaysia Cup final as Singapore routed his former side Pahang 4-0.

1994 was Singapore's last year of involvement in the Malaysian competitions, as the Football Association of Singapore decided to withdraw and focus on developing its own domestic tournaments.

In 1996, Singapore's new S.League was launched and Fandi captained Geylang United to winning the inaugural S. League championship title. Following that he moved to the Singapore Armed Forces Football Club (SAFFC) and captained them to winning the S. League title in 1997 and 1998. He then became SAFFC's coach and guided them to winning the S. League again in 2000.

Fandi won over 100 caps playing for the Singapore national team, scoring 50 goals. He helped Singapore win the Silver Medal at the Southeast Asian Games in 1983, 1985 and 1989.

However, his contribution to Singapore football has not been recognised by FIFA, who have not included Fandi as one of Singapore's members in the Centurion Club.
 

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Wendy Jacobs speaks her mind

The fact that I am strong is good. It would be sad if both of us were the same

But we have a great relationship. He's taught me to be more accepting

MACHO men will call it an emasculating remark.

In any case, it's not the sort of comment you would expect to hear about one of the nation's favourite sons.

But exceptions can probably be made, especially when the remark comes from Wendy Jacobs, Fandi Ahmad's wife.

'I wear the pants in the house,' she says in a frank interview published in the latest issue of New Man magazine.

Wendy, who also appears on the cover, tells the magazine quite a bit about Singapore's most famous soccer icon. Of his business acumen, she says: 'I think if I had run Fandi's businesses, we wouldn't be in the situation we are right now, trying to get over bad debts and those failed ventures.'

NO. 2 NATIONAL COACH

And what of his recent appointment to the No 2 coaching spot in the national squad?

'The first thing I said was, Are they paying you?'. Everything in the papers was, national duty', national pride'. Did the nation help you when you were in trouble?

'Is the nation going to help when you can't pay your son's school fees? Is the nation going to help when the bank takes your house?'


The South African model is well aware her comments might cause an uproar.

'The FAS will probably be calling me,' she tells The New Paper. 'But I made those statements to wake people up. They have to understand what Fandi and I are about.'

She says: 'If you conducted a poll right now, you'd definitely think he's making millions. Hello? Where did that concept come from? He too has to work for his bread and butter. Nothing in life is free.'

The 29-year old mother of four children (she gave birth to her third boy last November) sounds self-assured over the phone. She's candid, forthcoming and articulate.

Her intention, she will have you know, is not to undermine her husband's authority or public reputation. She is just doing her wifely and maternal duty - looking after his interests and that of their family.

HUMBLE AND TOO SWEET

'People who know him will tell you he is a humble person; he is just too sweet. He finds it hard to say no.

'The fact that I am a strong person is a good thing. It would be a sad, sad story if both of us were the same.

'The mentality of people is that if they can get something for free, why pay for it? So they ask the weak one. It's the strong one who keeps order. The strong one is there to help the weak.'

While she acknowledges that opposing personalities can cause friction, she maintains that theirs is a complementary relationship.

'He keeps me in check, too. He's taught me to be more accepting. Many times he's told me to be less harsh, to handle things and situations differently. It's a great relationship, we give and take.'

She readily admits that they fight, all the time. 'At least one good healthy quarrel a week. But we have learnt to laugh over our quarrels,' she says with a hearty chuckle.

But seriously, Fandi's well-publicised and less than successful ventures into the food and used car businesses have been stressful on the marriage.

BILLS TO PAY

'The bigger the family, the bigger the financial problems. We have bills to pay. When I gave birth to my fourth child, the hospital bill was over the top.'

She gets critical of governmental policy. 'What makes three the magic number? The fourth child doesn't get Edusave; I also cannot use my Medisave.'

Wendy returns to the state of her marriage and their financial health, although she declines to give details on the latter.

'But we all learn from our mistakes. Fandi's experiences have made him stronger. They've also made him realise his focal point should be soccer. What we've been through have been a strain on the marriage but we learn to get back on track. If you can get through things like these, you can get through anything.'

They have been married for seven years, but Wendy is not content to be just Mrs Fandi Ahmad.

'I don't need the Fandi Ahmad name to do and accomplish what I want to do.

'I have my own identity, and I want to succeed, whether in the business or social worlds or in the modelling circle.'

LOOKING GOOD

Wendy has proved this in modelling. After four kids (between 3 months and 6 years old) she is still as jaunty as ever on the catwalk or in front of the camera.

'Modelling gives me a sense of self worth, it's nice to know people still think I look good.'

She's also working on 'different dreams for myself'. Unabashedly she tells you she wants her own TV talk show; she also talks enthusiastically about her 'biggest adventure at the moment' - organising workshops on personal etiquette for women, from maids to mothers.

She's not dissatisfied with her life - far from it.

'I'm only 29 and I've achieved a lot. I've a great family, I've had my successes but you always strive for something better.'

The outspoken one bristles at suggestions that she doesn't need to work.

'I don't believe in living off my husband's money. You never know what's going to happen tomorrow; you don't know if doors which are open will close.

You have to have your own money. My father has told me, even when I was a little girl, to be independent, to never depend on a man.'

Women who define themselves by their husband, she says, 'are not true to themselves. A woman who does that might as well lock herself up in a room. Everyone's got to have a role in life.'

And for Wendy Jacobs, that is to be a good wife, a good mother but also a successful woman in her own right.
 

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Tragedy of his life washe preferred to play kampong football instead of international football :mad::confused:
 

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Well he's being troublesome and stupid, that's all we can say.

FIFA being a pretty racist and short-sighted organization of cocksuckers would probably ignore him in the same breath even if he stayed to contribute to European soccer.


n 1978, at the age 16, Fandi then became the youngest-ever player ever to play for the Singapore national team (a feat erased in 2007 by young starlet Hariss Harun). In 1980 he was a member of the Singapore representative side which won the Malaysia Cup. He scored the winning goal in the final, where Singapore beat arch rivals Selangor 2-1.

In 1982, Fandi was offered a place at Ajax Amsterdam after a trial, but he rejected it due to his difficulties adapting to the language and lifestyle. Instead he chose to return to Asia and joined Niac Mitra in Indonesia.

In 1983, Fandi did move to the Netherlands, where he played for FC Groningen from 1983 to 1985 in the Dutch football league (Eredivisie). Prior to his arrival, Groningen had qualified for European football for the first time, and Fandi helped them in a dramatic European debut season by scoring in a shock 2-0 second round, first-leg win over Italian giants Inter Milan.[1][2] During the 1983-84 season, Fandi scored 10 times in 29 games. While in his second season at the club, Fandi made 15 appearances, scoring 2 goals. Fandi made a big impact on the Groningen fans, in 1999 he was voted one of the best 25 players ever to play for FC Groningen, earning him a place in the club's Hall of Fame.[3] In 2003, he was named in the club's best eleven of the twentieth century.

Although Fandi was offered a place again at Ajax Amsterdam, he chose to return to Asia in 1986. (He has since said that he regretted not further plying his trade in Europe. Nottingham Forest made an informal enquiry about his availability in the late-1990s, but decided he was too old.)

Fandi's played for Kuala Lumpur in Malaysia from 1986 to 1990, helping them win the Malaysia Cup three times in 1987, 1988 and 1989. He also won the Malaysian Golden Boot Award in 1988. He then joined OFI Crete in Greece in 1990. But this stint in Europe lasted only a few months, and he returned to Malaysia to join Pahang in 1991, and helped them win the Malaysian League and Malaysia Cup double in 1992.

In 1993, Fandi returned to Singapore to play for the Singapore side in the Malaysian League. That year he tasted Malaysia Cup final defeat for the first time when Singapore were beaten 2-0 by Kedah. But the following year, with Fandi as captain, Singapore won the Malaysian League and Malaysia Cup double, and Fandi scored in the Malaysia Cup final as Singapore routed his former side Pahang 4-0.

1994 was Singapore's last year of involvement in the Malaysian competitions, as the Football Association of Singapore decided to withdraw and focus on developing its own domestic tournaments.

In 1996, Singapore's new S.League was launched and Fandi captained Geylang United to winning the inaugural S. League championship title. Following that he moved to the Singapore Armed Forces Football Club (SAFFC) and captained them to winning the S. League title in 1997 and 1998. He then became SAFFC's coach and guided them to winning the S. League again in 2000.

Fandi won over 100 caps playing for the Singapore national team, scoring 50 goals. He helped Singapore win the Silver Medal at the Southeast Asian Games in 1983, 1985 and 1989.

However, his contribution to Singapore football has not been recognised by FIFA, who have not included Fandi as one of Singapore's members in the Centurion Club.
 

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Tragedy of his life washe preferred to play kampong football instead of international football :mad::confused:

It's troublesome. He can't take pork, take alcohol, can't learn their language, don't understand the significance of European soccer etc.

It's not hard to see why FIFA snubbed him in return.
 

kaipoh

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Wendy Jacobs speaks her mind

The fact that I am strong is good. It would be sad if both of us were the same

But we have a great relationship. He's taught me to be more accepting

MACHO men will call it an emasculating remark.

In any case, it's not the sort of comment you would expect to hear about one of the nation's favourite sons.

But exceptions can probably be made, especially when the remark comes from Wendy Jacobs, Fandi Ahmad's wife.

'I wear the pants in the house,' she says in a frank interview published in the latest issue of New Man magazine.

Wendy, who also appears on the cover, tells the magazine quite a bit about Singapore's most famous soccer icon. Of his business acumen, she says: 'I think if I had run Fandi's businesses, we wouldn't be in the situation we are right now, trying to get over bad debts and those failed ventures.'

NO. 2 NATIONAL COACH

And what of his recent appointment to the No 2 coaching spot in the national squad?

'The first thing I said was, Are they paying you?'. Everything in the papers was, national duty', national pride'. Did the nation help you when you were in trouble?

'Is the nation going to help when you can't pay your son's school fees? Is the nation going to help when the bank takes your house?'


The South African model is well aware her comments might cause an uproar.

'The FAS will probably be calling me,' she tells The New Paper. 'But I made those statements to wake people up. They have to understand what Fandi and I are about.'

She says: 'If you conducted a poll right now, you'd definitely think he's making millions. Hello? Where did that concept come from? He too has to work for his bread and butter. Nothing in life is free.'

The 29-year old mother of four children (she gave birth to her third boy last November) sounds self-assured over the phone. She's candid, forthcoming and articulate.

Her intention, she will have you know, is not to undermine her husband's authority or public reputation. She is just doing her wifely and maternal duty - looking after his interests and that of their family.

HUMBLE AND TOO SWEET

'People who know him will tell you he is a humble person; he is just too sweet. He finds it hard to say no.

'The fact that I am a strong person is a good thing. It would be a sad, sad story if both of us were the same.

'The mentality of people is that if they can get something for free, why pay for it? So they ask the weak one. It's the strong one who keeps order. The strong one is there to help the weak.'

While she acknowledges that opposing personalities can cause friction, she maintains that theirs is a complementary relationship.

'He keeps me in check, too. He's taught me to be more accepting. Many times he's told me to be less harsh, to handle things and situations differently. It's a great relationship, we give and take.'

She readily admits that they fight, all the time. 'At least one good healthy quarrel a week. But we have learnt to laugh over our quarrels,' she says with a hearty chuckle.

But seriously, Fandi's well-publicised and less than successful ventures into the food and used car businesses have been stressful on the marriage.

BILLS TO PAY

'The bigger the family, the bigger the financial problems. We have bills to pay. When I gave birth to my fourth child, the hospital bill was over the top.'

She gets critical of governmental policy. 'What makes three the magic number? The fourth child doesn't get Edusave; I also cannot use my Medisave.'

Wendy returns to the state of her marriage and their financial health, although she declines to give details on the latter.

'But we all learn from our mistakes. Fandi's experiences have made him stronger. They've also made him realise his focal point should be soccer. What we've been through have been a strain on the marriage but we learn to get back on track. If you can get through things like these, you can get through anything.'

They have been married for seven years, but Wendy is not content to be just Mrs Fandi Ahmad.

'I don't need the Fandi Ahmad name to do and accomplish what I want to do.

'I have my own identity, and I want to succeed, whether in the business or social worlds or in the modelling circle.'

LOOKING GOOD

Wendy has proved this in modelling. After four kids (between 3 months and 6 years old) she is still as jaunty as ever on the catwalk or in front of the camera.

'Modelling gives me a sense of self worth, it's nice to know people still think I look good.'

She's also working on 'different dreams for myself'. Unabashedly she tells you she wants her own TV talk show; she also talks enthusiastically about her 'biggest adventure at the moment' - organising workshops on personal etiquette for women, from maids to mothers.

She's not dissatisfied with her life - far from it.

'I'm only 29 and I've achieved a lot. I've a great family, I've had my successes but you always strive for something better.'

The outspoken one bristles at suggestions that she doesn't need to work.

'I don't believe in living off my husband's money. You never know what's going to happen tomorrow; you don't know if doors which are open will close.

You have to have your own money. My father has told me, even when I was a little girl, to be independent, to never depend on a man.'

Women who define themselves by their husband, she says, 'are not true to themselves. A woman who does that might as well lock herself up in a room. Everyone's got to have a role in life.'

And for Wendy Jacobs, that is to be a good wife, a good mother but also a successful woman in her own right.

Hello, Ms jacob if you tell story, your hubby donkey years ago had became "jail bird", what national icon - in such a rampant of bribery in the soccer arena, you know what I mean.
Your hubby was suck in the 2nd car biz and failled, this is not any other people biz, you should blame it to your hubby naive, stupid and has no perception on how to scope gold from it. is shark eat shark not normal in the biz environment? you should read poch car story of how the boss issued his own log book and get million dollars of loan from the bank and absconded.
 

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Hello, Ms jacob if you tell story, your hubby donkey years ago had became "jail bird", what national icon - in such a rampant of bribery in the soccer arena, you know what I mean.
Your hubby was suck in the 2nd car biz and failled, this is not any other people biz, you should blame it to your hubby naive, stupid and has no perception on how to scope gold from it. is shark eat shark not normal in the biz environment? you should read poch car story of how the boss issued his own log book and get million dollars of loan from the bank and absconded.

At least she's a realist.. knows she can't depend on this bloke to support her :biggrin:
 

kaipoh

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Wendy Jacobs speaks her mind

The fact that I am strong is good. It would be sad if both of us were the same

But we have a great relationship. He's taught me to be more accepting

MACHO men will call it an emasculating remark.

In any case, it's not the sort of comment you would expect to hear about one of the nation's favourite sons.

But exceptions can probably be made, especially when the remark comes from Wendy Jacobs, Fandi Ahmad's wife.

'I wear the pants in the house,' she says in a frank interview published in the latest issue of New Man magazine.

Wendy, who also appears on the cover, tells the magazine quite a bit about Singapore's most famous soccer icon. Of his business acumen, she says: 'I think if I had run Fandi's businesses, we wouldn't be in the situation we are right now, trying to get over bad debts and those failed ventures.'

NO. 2 NATIONAL COACH

And what of his recent appointment to the No 2 coaching spot in the national squad?

'The first thing I said was, Are they paying you?'. Everything in the papers was, national duty', national pride'. Did the nation help you when you were in trouble?

'Is the nation going to help when you can't pay your son's school fees? Is the nation going to help when the bank takes your house?'


The South African model is well aware her comments might cause an uproar.

'The FAS will probably be calling me,' she tells The New Paper. 'But I made those statements to wake people up. They have to understand what Fandi and I are about.'

She says: 'If you conducted a poll right now, you'd definitely think he's making millions. Hello? Where did that concept come from? He too has to work for his bread and butter. Nothing in life is free.'

The 29-year old mother of four children (she gave birth to her third boy last November) sounds self-assured over the phone. She's candid, forthcoming and articulate.

Her intention, she will have you know, is not to undermine her husband's authority or public reputation. She is just doing her wifely and maternal duty - looking after his interests and that of their family.

HUMBLE AND TOO SWEET

'People who know him will tell you he is a humble person; he is just too sweet. He finds it hard to say no.

'The fact that I am a strong person is a good thing. It would be a sad, sad story if both of us were the same.

'The mentality of people is that if they can get something for free, why pay for it? So they ask the weak one. It's the strong one who keeps order. The strong one is there to help the weak.'

While she acknowledges that opposing personalities can cause friction, she maintains that theirs is a complementary relationship.

'He keeps me in check, too. He's taught me to be more accepting. Many times he's told me to be less harsh, to handle things and situations differently. It's a great relationship, we give and take.'

She readily admits that they fight, all the time. 'At least one good healthy quarrel a week. But we have learnt to laugh over our quarrels,' she says with a hearty chuckle.

But seriously, Fandi's well-publicised and less than successful ventures into the food and used car businesses have been stressful on the marriage.

BILLS TO PAY

'The bigger the family, the bigger the financial problems. We have bills to pay. When I gave birth to my fourth child, the hospital bill was over the top.'

She gets critical of governmental policy. 'What makes three the magic number? The fourth child doesn't get Edusave; I also cannot use my Medisave.'

Wendy returns to the state of her marriage and their financial health, although she declines to give details on the latter.

'But we all learn from our mistakes. Fandi's experiences have made him stronger. They've also made him realise his focal point should be soccer. What we've been through have been a strain on the marriage but we learn to get back on track. If you can get through things like these, you can get through anything.'

They have been married for seven years, but Wendy is not content to be just Mrs Fandi Ahmad.

'I don't need the Fandi Ahmad name to do and accomplish what I want to do.

'I have my own identity, and I want to succeed, whether in the business or social worlds or in the modelling circle.'

LOOKING GOOD

Wendy has proved this in modelling. After four kids (between 3 months and 6 years old) she is still as jaunty as ever on the catwalk or in front of the camera.

'Modelling gives me a sense of self worth, it's nice to know people still think I look good.'

She's also working on 'different dreams for myself'. Unabashedly she tells you she wants her own TV talk show; she also talks enthusiastically about her 'biggest adventure at the moment' - organising workshops on personal etiquette for women, from maids to mothers.

She's not dissatisfied with her life - far from it.

'I'm only 29 and I've achieved a lot. I've a great family, I've had my successes but you always strive for something better.'

The outspoken one bristles at suggestions that she doesn't need to work.

'I don't believe in living off my husband's money. You never know what's going to happen tomorrow; you don't know if doors which are open will close.

You have to have your own money. My father has told me, even when I was a little girl, to be independent, to never depend on a man.'

Women who define themselves by their husband, she says, 'are not true to themselves. A woman who does that might as well lock herself up in a room. Everyone's got to have a role in life.'

And for Wendy Jacobs, that is to be a good wife, a good mother but also a successful woman in her own right.

I think Ms Jocob is not living in the real world she still in the Alibaba year, never mind this anecdote served as a weak up call. Please compare yourself with our mediacock queen "Joe Tay", Fann, who is more famous, they are given 6 figures "token" for the shot.
Last but not least have you heard sleep to be rich? wearing less get thicker reward?......
 
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