Double-tragedy at Ang Mo Kio flat

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Double-tragedy at Ang Mo Kio flat

UNDER PROBE: A police investigator at the kitchen window of the sixth-floor unit in Ang Mo Kio Avenue 4.

Gurveen Kaur
MyPaper
Thursday, Jun 05, 2014

It was a flat where just three women lived and neighbours said they often heard the two older ones - mother and daughter - quarrelling among themselves.

Early yesterday morning, however, some said that they also heard a male voice demanding to be let into the four-room HDB flat in Ang Mo Kio Avenue 4.

Some time later, there was a loud thud.

Rosaline Lim, 75, and her daughter Andrea Tay, 51, were then found dead.

Police received a call at 4.43am. The officers who arrived at the scene found Madam Lim's body, with multiple stab wounds on it, lying inside the sixth-floor unit of Block 105.

The body of her daughter, Ms Tay, was found at the foot of the block after she had apparently fallen from her flat.

Both women were dead and knives have been recovered from the scene.

Ms Tay's teenaged daughter is believed to have been present at the scene, though it is not clear if she played any part in the argument. She was later seen sitting outside the flat, looking very distraught.

There were bloody footprints at the kitchen windowsill from where Ms Tay had fallen.

When My Paper visited the unit yesterday, there were bloodstains at the door entrance.

Neighbour May Lian was awoken by the sound of the two women arguing at around 4am. Their voices could be heard for more than 30 minutes.

Another neighbour said he heard a man's voice, asking to be let in, but could not say whether the women complied.

Madam Lim and Ms Tay had lived in the flat for more than 20 years, but kept mostly to themselves, said another neighbour, Mrs Tan, 61. She described them as quiet and said she would speak more with Ms Tay, who is believed to be divorced.

"She would complain about her mother and how she would not clean up after cooking. I think the mother was depressed," said Mrs Tan. For retiree Madam Ho, Madam Lim was a "quiet person who kept to herself... and never complained... but was very helpful and loved to cook."

She first met her at the Church of Christ the King in Ang Mo Kio over five years ago and would regularly see her at masses and church meetings.

Along with two other church members who lived nearby, Madam Ho was at the block yesterday, filled with sadness as to what had happened and concerned for the granddaughter.

"We saw her last night (Tuesday) at a church meeting and she was supposed to give us kong bak pao today," said one of the other friends, who did not want to be named.

Described as very fragile, thin and bespectacled, Madam Lim would regularly cook for her friends and even take the food to their homes, she added.

Police have classified the case as "unnatural deaths".

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Two women found dead at Ang Mo Kio HDB block, one with multiple stab wounds

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Source: The Straits Times, The New Paper, Shin Min

 

[sochi2014]

Why they remove the world Catholic from the church name?

 

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Intresting....

 

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Coroner’s inquiry into June AMK deaths reveals gruesome details

By Neo Chai Chin, TODAY
POSTED: 01 Dec 2014 20:40
UPDATED: 01 Dec 2014 20:47

TODAY reports: The coroner's inquiries into the deaths of 75-year old Rosaline Lim and her 51-year-old daughter Andrea Tay Su Lin revealed that Lim was found to be missing her eyeballs and part of her tongue.

SINGAPORE: A 75-year-old woman found with multiple stab wounds in her Ang Mo Kio home in June was found to be missing her eyeballs, and part of her tongue and right lung when an autopsy was performed.

Her eyeballs and tongue were recovered the next day on a grass patch near her block of flats, but the portion of her lung has not been found. Most of her stab wounds are also believed to have been inflicted after she had died.

These were among details that emerged at the coroner’s inquiries on Monday (Dec 1) into the deaths of Rosaline Lim and her 51-year-old daughter Andrea Tay Su Lin. On June 4, Tay was found to have fallen from a sixth-floor unit at Block 105, Ang Mo Kio Avenue 4, and Lim’s body was found in the three-bedroom flat with multiple stab wounds.

Police officers called by the Singapore Civil Defence Force on June 4 saw Lim’s body lying in a pool of blood when they entered the flat, co-owned by Tay and Lim.

Tay was standing in the kitchen and headed to the window when she saw the two officers. The officers were unable to stop her as she climbed through the window and stood on the ledge before plunging to her death, severing her legs in the process when she hit a laundry rack.

Tay had no psychiatric treatment record with the Institute of Mental Health or public hospitals here, but four people close to her suspected she had a mental illness as she displayed paranoid behaviour and had felt others – including her mother – were trying to harm her. However, her daughter, Ms Germaine Ng, apparently told the police that Tay had sought help at a private clinic years ago for depression.

The coroner will deliver the findings on Wednesday.

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Ang Mo Kio double death: Woman killed mum and took her own life, says coroner

Published on Dec 3, 2014 12:10 PM

A police investigator at the kitchen window of the sixth-floor unit at Block 105 in Ang Mo Kio Avenue 4 where the dismembered body of Andrea Tay Su Lin was found at the foot of the same block on the morning of June 4, 2014. -- PHOTO: SHIN MIN

By Elena Chong

SINGAPORE - A woman killed her 75-year-old mother and then took her own life by leaping from her sixth-floor kitchen window in Ang Mo Kio, a coroner said on Wednesday.

Delivering his findings, State Coroner Marvin Bay said sales promoter Andrea Tay Su Lin, 51, attacked Madam Rosaline Lim, a cleaner, with a knife and chopper in the living room of their flat at Block 105 Ang Mo Kio Avenue 4 on June 4 this year.

Based on evidence from various witnesses, especially Tay's 17-year-old daughter, Germaine, Mr Bay said it is strongly believed that Tay inflicted extensive injuries on her mother leading to her death.

Mr Bay said that while Tay had not been formally diagnosed with any specific mental condition, her extreme actions that night and her depressive episodes and paranoia showed bizarre behaviour which suggested that she was in an unsound state of mind at the time of the attack.

Madam Lim, who suffered hundreds of cuts which were mostly inflicted after death, died from multiple stab and incised wounds.

The inquiry heard that days and weeks before the incident, Tay had been behaving strangely.

She had a poor relationship with her mother, whom she blamed for her grandmother's death. She and her daughter returned from Malaysia to live with Madam Lim about 10 years ago.

Tay accused her mother of casting spells on her but the mother denied this.

Germaine told police that she noticed her mother's condition worsen a few days before the incident. On one occasion, her mother woke her up and asked why she was "sucking her energy'' and what she was doing to her.

On the day of the incident, Germaine was asleep at about 4.20am when she was woken up by her grandmother's screams and her mother shouting: "It is not my fault. It is your fault. Why must you do this to me? Why must you harm me?'' She locked her door in fear.

She called her father, Mr Peh Hock Leong, 58, who advised her to call emergency services which she did.

When police and paramedics arrived, they could not get in but could hear a woman's voice from inside.

It was only after Mr Peh got the house keys from her daughter who had thrown them down that the officers got in. They saw Madam Lim on the floor in a pool of blood and Tay in the kitchen. Tay turned around and climbed up the parapet and jumped. Her legs were severed from the knee when she hit a laundry rack on the third floor.

Some parts of Madam Lim's body were missing during the post-mortem the next day. Police went back to the scene and found her eye balls and part of a tongue on a grass patch. Madam Lim's right lung is still missing.