Serious Did NS Absconder Janil Puthucheary kaykiang and made Ah Heng's condition worse?

[Papsmearer]

gay Loong's letter of commendation to the Head of the SCDF indicates that Janil was taking the lead and the SCDF team was in support during the whole time they were in the cabinet room. Only why they were putting Ah Heng on the ambulance did the SCDF team take the lead and Janil was in support. This is wrong. The minute the SCDF EMS team arrived, they should have taken the lead and Janil should have been in support if at all.

 

[CoffeeAhSoh]

The medics applied the right technique, Janil applied the wrong one. Simple as that.

Like that i also think

SCDF SSG Janice is correct :p:p:p



Continuous Chest Compression CPR - Mayo Clinic Presentation

 

[kryonlight]

Not only that, even if you are trained in CPR, the Dr should be recertified in CPR every 2 years. The question is whether Janil even has a CPR ticket and if so, is it current.

SAF is even more kiasi. Before every ICT, they will force me to go for additional 3 days of medic revision course. Do you seriously think Janil can topo his way into HSK's arm vein and insert a 16G IV catheter?

 

[steffychun]

gay Loong's letter of commendation to the Head of the SCDF indicates that Janil was taking the lead and the SCDF team was in support during the whole time they were in the cabinet room. Only why they were putting Ah Heng on the ambulance did the SCDF team take the lead and Janil was in support. This is wrong. The minute the SCDF EMS team arrived, they should have taken the lead and Janil should have been in support if at all.

How to take the lead? Sinkies are scared of PAP leadership as if they were kings. If you were rushing in to treat the King's friend with the King's colleague providing "assistance" of course you would be quai and let him take the lead. If this was say other country's, the EMS (they call it EMS not stupid terms like Civil Defence) would have shoved Janil away and treated Heng the way the were taught.

But this is Heng, that was Janil, Pinky was there. The SCDF "rescuers" would kowtow to any one treating Heng, Medical Doctor or scholar general.

 

[Papsmearer]

SAF is even more kiasi. Before every ICT, they will force me to go for additional 3 days of medic revision course. Do you seriously think Janil can topo his way into HSK's arm vein and insert a 16G IV catheter?

He will try because he is wayang.

 

[Papsmearer]

How to take the lead? Sinkies are scared of PAP leadership as if they were kings. If you were rushing in to treat the King's friend with the King's colleague providing "assistance" of course you would be quai and let him take the lead. If this was say other country's, the EMS (they call it EMS not stupid terms like Civil Defence) would have shoved Janil away and treated Heng the way the were taught.

But this is Heng, that was Janil, Pinky was there. The SCDF "rescuers" would kowtow to any one treating Heng, Medical Doctor or scholar general.

So, you are saying that they stood aside and allowed Ah Heng to be fucked up by Janil doing the wrong CPR?

 

[NanoSpeed]

He is in a coma, probably irreversible brain damage. Was it dues to his CPR being improperly performed by janil? We are doing CSI on it here in this thread. LOL

You really know how to stir shit. I like it!

 

[Papsmearer]

You really know how to stir shit. I like it!

I think its a valid question. Why was Janil still doing CPR on ah Heng when the SCDF team arrived?

 

[enterprise2]

The problem as clearly stated and you seem to have ignored, was that once the SCDF team arrived there, Janil did not let them take over. That is why the team leader SSGT Janice Lee was basically a bystander and could even observe what Janil was doing and even can tell him he was bagging too fast. The second guessing is not whether first aid should have been administered to Ah Heng, nor was it who should have done it. But rather, why was janil still doing it and why did he not move over to let the real professionals take over. You get it?

Yes, def a break in procedure. The correct procedure is to hand over the patient to SCDF when they arrive. Janil thought he knew best and SSGT Janice didn't have the 'balls' to ask him!

 

[enterprise2]

I think its a valid question. Why was Janil still doing CPR on ah Heng when the SCDF team arrived?

Well if Heng recovers, no prob. If he didn't, then Janil and SCDF got some explaining to do!

 

[Papsmearer]

Yes, def a break in procedure. The correct procedure is to hand over the patient to SCDF when they arrive. Janil thought he knew best and SSGT Janice didn't have the 'balls' to ask him!

EXACTLY THE POINT I AM TRYING TO MAKE WITH THIS THREAD!! Thanks for the reiteration.

 

[Papsmearer]

Well if Heng recovers, no prob. If he didn't, then Janil and SCDF got some explaining to do!

I disagree. whether Ah heng recovers or not is irrelevant. The correct procedure does not appear to have taken place. Unless you tell me that Janil spends 40hrs a week working as a doctor who regularly administers CPR, and only 20 hrs as a Minister, then I agree he should take the lead. But if that is the case, then it begs the question why he is a minister.

 

[NanoSpeed]

I think its a valid question. Why was Janil still doing CPR on ah Heng when the SCDF team arrived?

It's not only valid; it's crucial. SMC should come out and explain if medical doctors are permitted to overrule S C D F staff on such an event. What if Heng suay suay died on the spot? Did the PM have a motive in personally portraying Mama Cherry as Saviour? Is he medically qualified to pronounce that it was Mama Cherry'S method of CPR that saved Heng?

 

[bushtucker]

Rusty Putty Cherry should have let SCDF paramedics do their job. If you apply CPR wrongly, you could worsen the patient's condition.

 

[enterprise2]

gay Loong's letter of commendation to the Head of the SCDF indicates that Janil was taking the lead and the SCDF team was in support during the whole time they were in the cabinet room. Only why they were putting Ah Heng on the ambulance did the SCDF team take the lead and Janil was in support. This is wrong. The minute the SCDF EMS team arrived, they should have taken the lead and Janil should have been in support if at all.

The shocking news is there is no in house staff ( actually for these guys being who they r) should be a team that is medically certified at the highest level. If the SCDF team comes, they will Kow tow to these guys since they r the sifus. Instead they encountered 3 grossly overpaid ministars who happen to be Drs but who probably can't perform a proper CPR to save their lives!

 

[Papsmearer]

It's not only valid; it's crucial. SMC should come out and explain if medical doctors are permitted to overrule S C D F staff on such an event. What if Heng suay suay died on the spot? Did the PM have a motive in personally portraying Mama Cherry as Saviour? Is he medically qualified to pronounce that it was Mama Cherry'S method of CPR that saved Heng?

Yes, absolutely right. Unless Janil was identified to them as a doctor, they cannot let him take the lead. Once they are called, then, they are the lead responders. If it was Janil's show, then why bother to call SCDF. Janil should just bring Ah heng to the hospital himself in a van escorted by police outriders. Much faster then waiting for SCDF. If SCDF staff was not needed, they should not be called.

If Heng died, they would have put the blame on the SCDF team that responded. SSG Lee probably already had experienced with other cases where the patient's family blamed the SCDF team. That is why she made sure to mention about the bagging being too fast.

 

[Papsmearer]

The shocking news is there is no in house staff ( actually for these guys being who they r) should be a team that is medically certified at the highest level. If the SCDF team comes, they will Kow tow to these guys since they r the sifus. Instead they encountered 3 grossly overpaid ministars who happen to be Drs but who probably can't perform a proper CPR to save their lives!

Yes, CPR has to be constantly recertified. When was the last time Janil did his?

 

[NanoSpeed]

Yes, CPR has to be constantly recertified. When was the last time Janil did his?

But PM already offered himself as Expert Witness and his Expert Opinion already published. Which medical body would dare to overrule him?

 

[enterprise2]

But PM already offered himself as Expert Witness and his Expert Opinion already published. Which medical body would dare to overrule him?

Most important opinion belongs to Ah Heng!

 

[CoffeeAhSoh]

But PM already offered himself as Expert Witness and his Expert Opinion already published. Which medical body would dare to overrule him?

latest - Davinder is aware of the tight spot PM put himself into.